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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Oct 17, 2012 - 12:56am PT
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If Jon has another shipment in the works I'll defer to him. Otherwise I'll take the next lead. Let me know Jon.
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2012 - 12:15pm PT
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Thanks Everybody!!
All Your generosity is truly amazing!
Cragnshag gave me a link to how to make a bolt puller as well as how to use it. I will post pics as I tic routes of questionable bolts and hangers.
Thanks for throwing in a bolt kit Ronamok!
Peace Eric
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deepnet
Boulder climber
San Diego
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Oct 17, 2012 - 08:24pm PT
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ss bolts needed BUMP
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Guangzhou
Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
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Oct 17, 2012 - 10:53pm PT
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I started a thread like this in one of the Australian forums I belong to for Indonesia. Indonesia is around the corner for them, and Australian visit Indo regularly.
A couple of members there convince their climbing gym to put a donation box out. Might work for you guys if you have a gym. Even just a couple sling for a few members adds up quickly.
Regardless, nice of you guys to share the wealth.
Eman
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The Lisa
Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
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Oct 23, 2012 - 01:15pm PT
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Sorry if I am late to shipping party here. I did a big clean up of the gear room this weekend and have a small package - 1 ATC, 1 gently used harness, a couple of 12" nylon slings and some oval non locking biners.
Mountain Lion, I will pm you also.
Lisa
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2012 - 12:12am PT
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Hi everybody,
Just a thought I had. I think it would be cool to let the people who are receiving the gear you all have donated know a little about you. Not to much just a pic or where/why/what you climb. If you prefer to remain anonymous that is cool also. I haven't done anything yet. Here is a pic of cragnshag with his son (originally on facelift thread). Let me know if I have the wrong pic Bob.
Peace Eric
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cragnshag
Social climber
san joser
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Oct 29, 2012 - 08:02pm PT
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OK, here's what we have gathered so far. The pic below shows my stuff combined with stuff from Michelle. I think Lisa's stuff is on the way here, but we still have plenty of room. I would like to fill up the container, if possible, before sending. I'm in South San Jose for any of you Bay Area folks who want to donate.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Oct 29, 2012 - 08:05pm PT
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I'll dig my stuff out tomorrow and post the inventory. I've been slacking. glad it's not too late.
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2012 - 10:02pm PT
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Thanks, Cragnshag, Michelle, Lisa, and Nature! That is an amazing donation!
By the way check out the trip report I posted today.
Thanks for everybody's generosity, time, effort, money spent, and gear. I should be receiving the first package in early december. I will post a trip report upon distributing the gear.
Peace Eric
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Oct 29, 2012 - 10:47pm PT
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Post inventory? My, aren't WE organized?
I just stuffed some stuff in a box & sent it.
That's not The Way?
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cragnshag
Social climber
san joser
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Oct 29, 2012 - 10:52pm PT
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I may be a little OCD. Notice how the draws are arranged by size and color.
Heck, even look at the direction of the biner gates... OK time to go clean the bathroom while I'm on a roll.
Actually the photo is "proof" for the insurance claim for the shipper if the package gets stolen en route.
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The Lisa
Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
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Oct 31, 2012 - 01:55pm PT
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I am back on the Interwebs after Sandy-imposed hiatus. I will send my package tomorrow.
Thanks to Cragnshag for gathering all the gear and to Mountain Lion for organizing this in the first place.
Lsa
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cultureshock
Trad climber
Mountain View
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Oct 31, 2012 - 02:24pm PT
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Hey Crag, do you ever come to Planet Granite Sunnyvale. I've got some gear I could donate. I live in Sunnyvale, will be in Yosemite this weekend, could try to meet up to give you some more stuff to send. When are you planning on sending out the box?
 Luke
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The Lisa
Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
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Nov 10, 2012 - 10:13pm PT
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Just a bump. I have sent my small contribution to Cragnshag along with a contribution to the shipping and insurance costs via PayPal.
Thanks again to Bob for shipping a bunch of gear and to Eric for organizing this in the first place.
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 15, 2012 - 01:12am PT
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Thanks Everybody!
I have a few people on mountainproject that are looking to share shipping space. Please let me know if anyone still has room in their container.
The estimated delivery date of the first package is November 20. I will keep everyone posted upon it's arrival and will have a trip report also.
Thanks for everyone's effort in making this a reality.
Peace Eric
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aliebling
climber
San Francisco, CA
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Nov 15, 2012 - 03:06pm PT
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Too late to get in on this? Have a brand new harness I got for free that I'd gladly send along.
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Lord Slime
Sport climber
Fort Collins, CO
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Nov 16, 2012 - 02:51pm PT
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The bolts placed are 3/8 by 3 inches galvanized steel (because they are cheaper)the hangars are mostly Fixe stainless steel. They look to be holding up well as the crag is far enough from the ocean and is overhanging enough the wall can be climbed when raining.
Unfortunately, as I've posted about Cuba, being away from seawater does NOT make stainless appropriate in this type of environment. There are many broken stainless bolts which have never been touched by seawater or sea water aerosols. In fact, the latest science points toward lower-humidity, inland areas as being more susceptible to Stress Corrosion Cracking.
Rainwater, accelerated by rotting vegetation (carbonic acid), dissolves the limestone creating Ca and worse, Mg ions. The Cl is already there since limestone forms in saline solutions. The rain stops and evaporates, leaving MgCl on the stainless steel. SCC soon follows, usually behind the hanger where it can't be seen, and the bolt breaks even though the bolt looks fine on the outside.
If you can get the old galvanized bolts out and use the same hole, you should consider continuing to use galvanized bolts BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE when they start to rust (the Zn is consumed) and then replace them: SCC in stainless is often invisible.
Of course this is a lot of ongoing labor and expense. The only existing permanent solution is titanium glue-ins.
And speaking of FIXE hangers...
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2012 - 11:46pm PT
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Thanks for posting those pics lord of the slime! That is truly scary. So the best option is titanium glue-ins. Next best is galvanized bolts with stainless hangers so you can see the corrosion knowing that you have to replace within a decade? What about stainless bolts and stainless hangers?
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Nov 16, 2012 - 11:59pm PT
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If my big shipment from China gets here in time I might be able to kick down some stuff for your care package. Them damn Chinese are always late though, and that's why we mostly use India and Cambodia these days.
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2012 - 12:25am PT
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Thanks Russ!
That would be very cool and would be put to good use. I don't know how you are able to make a profit. I did some checking and it appears all your gear is made in the USA. Your bottom line will increase if you quit shipping it to China only to have to re-ship and import it back here :)
I have a few guys in San Diego who are putting a box together and I'm sure they travel to JT I'll see when the next time they are heading out that way.
Peace Eric
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