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climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 9, 2012 - 11:58am PT
Up for a good cause and check you e-mail mountain
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Oct 9, 2012 - 01:59pm PT
If anyone in San Diego area wants to donate gear I am willing to sponsor one shipping box, i am sure we can fill it.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 9, 2012 - 04:08pm PT
Ok last Saturday I tried to send out a small package usps but long story short it would have cost $47 and been unsecure from what I hear. SO what I'd like to do is send it to someone doing the container along with a small money order to help with shipping.

Anyone doing the container (jon?) contact me with name/address via this forum ASAP I'll get this package sent to you immediately.
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 9, 2012 - 05:37pm PT
Hi everybody,

Climbski2 I have sent a few emails to people who live in areas without others nearby to see if they are interested in consolidating a package with you as their are several people interested in making a contribution who don't live nearby someone else. I will let you know when they contact me. Their username's and locations are as follows: Captain or skully in Boise, Prezwoodz in Anchorage, Toker Villian in Utah, Nature in Colorado, The Lisa in New York, Frumy in the La area, Moresnowplease in Mammoth, and Donini in Colorado.

There are two groups teaming up also. One in the Bay Area (Cragnshag and Michelle) and one in the San Diego Area (Jon Beck). As well as one who may already have sent his package (Deepnet in San Diego--I will send an email to find out).

I appreciate eveyone's time energy, effort, money's spent and gear donated. It will be put to good use. In addition to the people who actively climb with our group there are several teenagers and young people who live in the village who come to watch but haven't joined in the fun due to thier not being enough for everyone to share as well as they are to shy and proud to ask. I look forward to changing thier lives as well as sharing the experience with all of you!

Theft is rampant here as this country is in extreme poverty. When shipping the packages that I couldn't take on my flight I used LBC Express and added $10 insurance to the box (make sure you check the insurance box as well as sign for insurance on the bill of lading. Please take a photo and written inventory. I will take a photo when the box is opened and inventory also to hold the shipping company accountable (I will take the responsibility for this).

I will post trip reports and photos of the gear being used as well as new route development and anchor and bolt replacement. I am actively trying to get the community on supertopo as well because climbing is new here (20 years) so they can gain from the knowledge and experience of the climbers who like to share thier knowledge.

Thanks Eric
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Oct 9, 2012 - 06:00pm PT
Where does this "theft" occur in the delivery chain?
Would having a recipient to hold the gear in a Philippine city help?
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 9, 2012 - 06:07pm PT
Sounds like we have several "singles" that would be better consolidated. Looks like there is an LBC here in Reno so I could consolidate and ship if others prefer that.

However Jon Beck above has already offered to do a container and I would be most pleased to spend the miniscule amount needed to send to him and pitch in a bit for the container. Hopefully he will see this soon and let us know if he would like to receive from us.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Oct 9, 2012 - 06:22pm PT
I do not mind receiving the gear and putting together a box, I will cover the shipping to the PI. There should be a LBC office in San Diego, I will call them tomorrow.
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 9, 2012 - 07:56pm PT
Hi everybody,

In response to Toker Villian's question. The theft occurs at the distribution center here in the Philippines. I was advised prior to shipping personal possessions when I moved here to insure the boxes. I shipped 11 boxes that arrived without any contents missing but I paid for the insurance. Mysteriously items that don't have insurance have a high rate of theft. I don't think climbing gear will have that problem as most wont know what it is for and is not something that people in need can quickly sell. Phones, laptops, tv's and anything that the average person needs can and will be stolen. I can't stress enough to check the square box marked "insurance" sign it and make sure the delivery driver signs the bill of lading. Keep a copy of the bill of lading, inventory the boxes contents, and photo the boxes contents. If theft occurs I will take responsibility for recovering the loss from the shipping company.

Thanks for everyone's hard work and patience.

Eric
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Oct 10, 2012 - 09:16am PT
I was unable to contact LBC locally but their 800 number in San Francisco was very helpful. I am picking up an empty box today so if anyone wants to give up some gear, old top ropes, leaver biners, solid shaft friends, harnesses, or what ever, just contact me, I get down to San Diego at least once a week and can pickup
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 10, 2012 - 12:35pm PT
Thanks Jon. Sent you the package today!
Captain...or Skully

climber
Oct 10, 2012 - 08:13pm PT
So where do I send my stuff?
Please advise. It's like herding cats out here.
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2012 - 03:15am PT
Thanks for everybody's continued efforts!

I know we are all in different areas and time zones so it may take a little time to work out all the logistics.

Donini is back on the 14th so it may be a good time for the singles to team up and see if Donini would like to be part of the team.

I appreciate your generosity, hard work, and patience it won't go to waste!

Peace Eric
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2012 - 05:25pm PT
Thanks to everybody who has taken their time, energy, money, and gear to change someone's life here in the Philippines.

I think all of us know how big of an impact climbing has had on our lives.

From the smell of the mountain air, to the people wondering how you got up there, to the amazing belay seats overlooking the valley floors below. The moments when success is in doubt and the perfect hold or gear placement appears. The smile you wear when you pushed yourself past what you thought was your limit.

These are the moments that make a rich life.

Peace Eric
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Oct 12, 2012 - 05:49pm PT
Captain, I am putting a box together in San Diego, you can ship to me, the big box will go by sea, much cheaper. Email me for an address
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Oct 12, 2012 - 08:24pm PT
The Phillipines are an advanced country. Why is there a shortage of gear?
Captain...or Skully

climber
Oct 12, 2012 - 08:40pm PT
PM sent, Jon.
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Oct 12, 2012 - 08:40pm PT
johntp, define "advanced".


GDP per capita of the Philippines, around $2,300

GDP per capita of the US, around $48,000


Does that answer your question?
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 12, 2012 - 10:56pm PT
I have to agree with Khanom on this Johntp. I have been no stranger to the impoverished for they are in every country. However I was totally unprepared for what I found moving to the Philippines. You don't see overweight people here because they are going without food on a regular basis. I could take photos of the poverty here if I thought people wanted to see it. The people are very proud here, even though they most likely live in a shack with a corrugated roof, no running water or electricity. You wouldn't know it by their attitude. Everywhere I go I am serenaded with "hey Joe" followed by "what is your name" "where are you going" "where are you from". We saved the Philippines from being overrun by the Japanese in WWII and they are brought up to like Americans here.

Peace Eric
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Oct 12, 2012 - 11:14pm PT
Come on johntp, you gotta have some gear you just don't need anymore. Funky old biners, top rope? Look deep in your heart to help these brothers and sisters pursue their passion.
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Oct 13, 2012 - 09:19am PT
We saved the Philippines from being overrun by the Japanese in WWII

Ah, the big strong American as white knight... gah.

Actually, our forces surrendered to the Japanese, leading to their occupation of the Philippines for nearly three years. If you know anything about Japanese occupations, you know that was not a fun time.

The strong American influence actually comes from our "acquiring" the country from the Spanish and making it our territory... i.e. invading... America as an imperialist power. But it didn't take long before the Philippines decided we weren't much better than the Spanish, and fought back. We beat them into submission.

The Philippines didn't gain independence from the US until 1946.


Sorry for going on, but I really don't think it's fair to view Americans as "saviors" of the Philippines. It sure could of been worse, but I'm not sure we Americans are in a position to judge that.
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