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sempervirens
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Sep 19, 2012 - 10:39am PT
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Go to Eugene for some of the most ridiculous social and political arguments, where I witnessed people lecturing others about their purchases while standing in line at the grocery store (the evils of white sugar, the coffee trade, paper vs. plastic, "and I'm trying to educate you..."
Chaz, you seem to be a politically right-leaning person and I think you may be amused at the extreme liberal conformity amongst people there. I happen to be mostly liberal but I found the rampant liberalism there to be extreme to the point of a competition for the highest social moral ground.
As the best example I can remember after years of living in Eugene, I was told that middle-aged white men rule the world and that is why the world is in such violent turmoil. Upon my questioning this opinion I was told I could never understand prejudice and bias because I'm a white male. (Think about that statement). Even the white males present agreed.
Keep a humerous attitude and talk to some Eugeneans and let me know what you think.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 19, 2012 - 11:16am PT
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Not much other than a lot of slogging...
Sometimes you can see something...
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Sep 19, 2012 - 12:14pm PT
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Nice place for a fish out of water.
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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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Sep 19, 2012 - 01:19pm PT
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Plaidman lives there. You have to like that.
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Hoser
climber
vancouver
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Sep 19, 2012 - 01:29pm PT
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Not much really, you get a few decent days a year to get something done and the rest of the time people just complain. Would I work till I am 75 to afford a sh#t pile here....not freaking likely
Houses start at 900 000 on the outskirts of town
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Cloudraker
Sport climber
San Diego, CA
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Sep 19, 2012 - 02:47pm PT
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Sorry but I'm with Hoser. Median income in Vancouver = $60,000; median home price = $600,000. Can't afford to live there and don't like the rain (avg. 165 days of precipitation/year).
When it's sunny it's beautiful though. And there's good coffee, food, and climbing objectives especially alpine.
edit: Absurd Vancouver Property of the Week
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Sep 19, 2012 - 03:37pm PT
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I lived in Vancouver for 20 years, and mostly liked it. But after moving to Seattle for the past ten years, the thought of moving back to Vancouver holds no charm.
Seattle's not perfect, but I certainly prefer it to Van.
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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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Sep 19, 2012 - 03:47pm PT
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^^^^^We call it Van-tucky
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Hoser
climber
vancouver
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Sep 19, 2012 - 03:48pm PT
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Seattle is worse! Its Vancouver with less women and no health care
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 19, 2012 - 03:50pm PT
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Yabbut Ghost has both.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Sep 19, 2012 - 04:06pm PT
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Don't know about the "less women" thing. Seems to be about the same m-to-f ratio in both cities. As to health care, you're quite right, but that's a country thing, not a city thing.
I'd happily slide Seattle 150 miles north and across the border if:
a) that would bring universal health care, but not
b) an influx of santimonious Canadians moving in and spoiling the vibe
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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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Sep 19, 2012 - 04:07pm PT
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The dream of the 90's is alive in Portland.
It's where young people go to retire.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Binks
climber
Uranus
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Sep 19, 2012 - 04:36pm PT
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In Portland, almost everything you want to do in the city is within a 5 mile radius. There is no need for a car. The food and beer are fabulous. You can bike everywhere. Hood is 90 minutes. Can't think of anywhere in America that beats it for quality of life. Yes, it rains. So what?
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Hoser
climber
vancouver
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Sep 19, 2012 - 05:01pm PT
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Yes, it rains. So what?
Kinda makes the no car thing moot...
Seattle and Portland combined cant touch the quality of women we have in Van, however no one can touch the women in Van because they have the worst attitude in the world!
PNW as a whole sucks but the American one is even worse
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Sep 19, 2012 - 07:15pm PT
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The best rock climbing in Oregon is in Washington, and the best rock climbing in Washington is in BC.
I mean, in BC we have rock like the Smith Rock tuff. We just don't bother to climb on it.
The best alpine climbing in Washington - an area with dozens of amazing routes and three or four separate guidebooks - would get one chapter in a BC alpine guidebook and would get visited maybe a dozen times a year.
But yeah, it rains. So stay away.
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Hoser
climber
vancouver
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Sep 19, 2012 - 08:15pm PT
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They always post pics like that, and for sure its awesome when its sunny...but from about next week till February its nothing but dark and rainy.
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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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Sep 19, 2012 - 08:18pm PT
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Then go to the desert. 2/3's of Oregon is so dry your spit will dry before it hits the ground.
The problem is that there is not much out there. Besides Smith Rock!
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Hoser
climber
vancouver
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Sep 19, 2012 - 08:20pm PT
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America?
hahahahahhahaha, ya ill take 11 months of rain first
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Chango
Trad climber
norcal
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Sep 19, 2012 - 08:57pm PT
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Steelhead fishing in the OP. Steelhead fishing on the North Umpqua. Make ya do crazy things...
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MisterE
Social climber
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Sep 19, 2012 - 11:18pm PT
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As a person who spent the first 30 years of his life there, the following:
The North Cascades hold the greatest potential for alpine first ascents in the USA.
The skiing at places like Baker, and Whistler are awesome...if you have strong legs and are not a powder-pussy.
Some of the most amazing organic foods are coming out of places like the Skagit Valley and surrounding areas. I mean really hard-core Organic people here.
The San Juan Islands are an archipelago of undiscovered wonder. I grew up fish tendering in the San Juans, and the surprises are endless, and the people friendly.
If you long for greenery? This is the place: it overwhelmingly green, stunningly green, stupifyingly green, you-will-long-for-tan-colors green.
If you are a goth looking for a depressing contingency - you will find it here!
You get the idea.
That being said - I don't miss the long, wet winters.
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