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donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 12, 2012 - 09:33am PT
The weekend of October 13th/14th will be the time, Creek Pasture the place for the 4th Annual Indian Creek Volunteer Day.
BLM co-ordinator Bob Lever (a great friend to climbers) has lined up some tasty projects mostly in the Creek Pasture/ Superbowl campground areas. Come help protect and restore these areas and further build the climber/ land manager relationship in Indian Creek!
On Saturday we work and on Sunday we play.
What you get:
Reserved camping Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights at Creek Pasture.
Free World famous Bison or Veggie Burger barbeque on Saturday night.
Wonderful tales (some even true) around a crackling oak fire.
Meet new clmbing friends.
Free T-shirts from the BLM
Crack climbing clinics on Sunday and a chance to climb with your new friends.
and
most of all
the great feeling from a job well done. At past events participants have always been amazed at what they have accomplished.

Please RSVP Jim Donini at (jimdonini43@gmail.com) with your bison/veggie preferance

Can't wait to see you there!
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 12, 2012 - 10:52am PT
Stewardship. What a concept. This is a worthy project, Jim. Are you sure you don't believe in an higher ideal? I can't be there, but I support you in spirit.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Sep 12, 2012 - 11:45am PT
Hmmm...

Interesting...

I'll try to make it, can't guarantee it.

Were I to go to Colorado
Would ya like to follow me?
Would ya come from California
With a banjo on yer knee?

Remember yer dealin' with the whimsy of der Mouse.

donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 12, 2012 - 06:42pm PT
Bump for the evening crowd.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Sep 12, 2012 - 06:52pm PT
Donini! I can be there! Heidi likely won't.

Let me know if I can help out on food or drink?


I can hardly wait to be dragged up an Indian Creek crack.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 12, 2012 - 08:11pm PT
You are on Ray...I'll give you a call!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 13, 2012 - 06:27am PT
Time to go to the Creek!
Karla

climber
Colorado
Sep 13, 2012 - 11:57am PT
Yo Donini!
Where's the salmon & asparagus option? We will definitely try and make it out there for this!
Thanks for being the Indian Creek stewardship pusherman!
Jeremy

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM
Sep 13, 2012 - 01:11pm PT
But there are always all those...people...and dogs...and people...

I am pre-bailing.

Have fun Jim!

Jeremy
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Sep 13, 2012 - 07:00pm PT
My old climbing buddy Mark M has signed up too. He enjoyed his doses of Donini punishment at City of Rocks this June.

No dogs going with us.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Sep 13, 2012 - 07:11pm PT
I'll be there, like I said in an email, Veggie burger for me.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Sep 13, 2012 - 07:14pm PT
that's like 110 miles from Ouray? and mouse and donini are gonna be there.


hmmmmmmmmmmm!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 15, 2012 - 03:48pm PT
Garlic infused bison burgers....sign up now!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Sep 15, 2012 - 04:53pm PT
Not to be a buzzkill, Jim, but although stewardship of the approaches and camping is a great idea, and I am all for it, I can't help but wonder if it will extend above the first belay before the Incredible Handcrack becomes the Incredible Fistcrack.

You may find this hard to believe but once no less than a President of the AAC said to me that he actually liked the way that the Incredible Handcrack was getting wider because his hands fit better.
Do you think he was really that myopic or was just trying to get a rise out of me at the moral expense of the veracity of his environmental commitment.


I know a dozen Wingate Canyons as good, but only lacking in paved access.
I guess IC will have to serve as a guinea pig to that commitment to stewardship.


Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Sep 15, 2012 - 06:43pm PT
Sure wish I could make it, Jim,
but I'll still be recovering from shoulder surgery.

Best Wishes for a HUGE SUCCESS on the event!

Cosmic
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 15, 2012 - 09:19pm PT
Ron, the sad fact is that if you have fabulous climbing within 20 minutes of a road with great, free camping the world is going to beat a path to your door. The internet has changed everything, there are no secrets- at least not for long.
Given the fact that an area like IC is going to see extensive traffic the remaining option is to get the users to take care of the resouce and, where needed, help restore it.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Sep 16, 2012 - 12:40pm PT
Jim, that is NOT an answer.

OK, we know why lots of people climb there.
That is not what I asked.

Much to my dismay over time I have discovered that nutting and free climbing are still erosive forces on soft rock.
If we cannot stabilize the climbs (i don't know, maybe find some hardening compound that can be applied inside cracks or something) then all the trail building, all the garbage policing, all the talk of stewardship is nothing less than a clever scam to misdirect others from the inconvenient fact that climbers are using up a nonrenewable resource in a way even more permanent than the destruction of rainforests (which at least in theory can be regrown).
Farouk

Boulder climber
Sylvan Grove
Sep 16, 2012 - 01:17pm PT
Are dogs allowed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ron: LOLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Sep 17, 2012 - 10:12am PT
I guess everybody is too busy not doing something for four days to discuss the future of a pivotal resource.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 17, 2012 - 03:37pm PT
Ron, you raise a good point. Similar problems have occurred with pin scarring on granite and polishing on limestone sport routes. At IC the noticeable widening of cracks due to constant use seems, as of now, to be limited to a few climbs and the Incredible Handcrack is the poster child for that problem.
What to do? Hardening compound, sounds impractical but what do i know? When a crack changes in size it becomes easier for some and harder for others but that is not the answer you want.
Come to the IC event and we can get some folks brainstorming about the issue.
Thanks for drawing it to attention.

Ron, have you ever wondered why a highly altered crack like Serenity is so popular?
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