Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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May 18, 2006 - 07:24pm PT
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You look very sweet--almost exactly like I figured, but far more beautiful. I know for a fact that you dad would have been very proud of you. We are, in his place.
JL
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daryl_hattens_daughter
climber
saskatchewan, canada
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Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2006 - 07:25pm PT
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Awe thankyou very much! Wow...thats some deep thinking . Yea, im not mad at them. My mom never otl me the stories because i was too young to understand. But my aunt only tells me what my mom told her which is basically the bad parts. I love them both and they will always be in my heart. I cant not love them (haha) they were and are my parents and there will always be that special part inside me for them.
Stewart-why was he in Juvie? what did he do?
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Loomis
climber
Praha, Ceska Republika
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May 18, 2006 - 07:40pm PT
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Janelle, I just spoke with a friend on the phone, told him about your post here on supertopo. He knew your father well. Your father taught him how to aid climb (years ago). His name is Chuck Clance and he lives in the bay area. Chuck is not Computer savy, but has a wealth of stories to tell you about your late father. Please check your e-mail for contact info, Scott.
BTW: After a quick tutorial, Clance will be posting here.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 18, 2006 - 07:43pm PT
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And don't listen to Anasthesia. She doesn't know what she's talking about. Take TWO big mean, ugly guys.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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May 18, 2006 - 07:55pm PT
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Janelle, I met Chuck Clance at Lover's Leap right after your dad died.
He told me he was a very good friend of Daryl, and was trying to get more info.
He was very bummed to hear the news.
I told him about the threads that were posted on the climbing websites.
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zardoz
Trad climber
Austin, TX
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May 18, 2006 - 08:09pm PT
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Hey Ron, did Anastasia's paranoid comment rub you the wrong way, too? I just love that constant yap about Intardnutpredators and Mean People. I think our society has collectively heard that urgent warning about a thousand times. I mean that poor retarded kid in Utah avoided his search party for a week because that "strangers will touch your pee pee" idea was drilled into his little brain. No kidding! They finally found him, thankfully.
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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May 18, 2006 - 08:11pm PT
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Boy, that was a fast response. I honestly didn't want to ask, so I can only guess it was for some kind of minor hell-raising, or possibly a marijuana bust - the law was pretty heavy on all but the "purest" teenagers. Sorry I can't tell you more, but either Peter or your grandfather could probably answer that one...
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 18, 2006 - 08:16pm PT
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But Zardoz, strangers WILL touch your pee pee. lol
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zardoz
Trad climber
Austin, TX
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May 18, 2006 - 08:17pm PT
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Not every stranger is interested in your pee pee. Some want your money!
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lightweight_yank
Trad climber
Sparx
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May 18, 2006 - 08:41pm PT
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Dang! Janelle, you look so much like your Dad...but cute! I had a wonderful conversation with your Aunt Darlene last night, and she's so proud of you. Please ignore half of the idiotic comments posted here, but there are also some people here who are your true friends -- Largo, Greg Foweraker, and obviously Anastasia.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 18, 2006 - 08:58pm PT
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I like to joke around but I'm for you 110%.
My parents died many years ago. I would like to have known them better.
Two weeks ago I met with my stepmom in New York and for the first time she told me what happened the night my dad died 21 years ago.
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lightweight_yank
Trad climber
Sparx
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May 18, 2006 - 09:46pm PT
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Guys - Daryl's daughter just turned seventeen, so let's keep the crude comments to a minimum. Besides, I'd hate to be you if Daryl (or his friends) ever caught you talking like that to his little girl (even though he was hardly an example in this regard - sigh.)
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Loomis
climber
Praha, Ceska Republika
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May 18, 2006 - 10:03pm PT
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Wonder, yea he is...
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Wonder
climber
WA
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May 18, 2006 - 10:11pm PT
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Well, that one more miracle!
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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May 18, 2006 - 11:58pm PT
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Well, Wonder and Janelle...one of the things about those days was that I was married with kids and a full time job at the time, and Daryl and many others didn't. This was around the time that he started regularly heading alone over to the mainland to Squamish & Yosemite (mainly), and although we still did stuff together, he had other partners for his best new Squamish routes - unfortunately, I'm not sure what BITD refers to. As far as my rapidly fading memories of those days go he climbed a pile of new wall routes inluding Pan Granitic Frogman, Son of Pan, Negro Lesbian (right beside the Black Dyke for those unfamiliar with either Squamish or his sense of humour), and Getting Down on the Brown. I could easily be missing others, but I remember him being quite pleased with himself for the first ascent of Up from the Skies, which had a reputation for being a particularly hairy route, and I believe that he did that one with Eric Weinstein, another Squamish legend, also sadly no longer with us.
I could easily check some of this stuff out if I had my collection of Squamish guidebooks by various authors easily available. In my opinion, the best of the bunch was written by a fellow named Gordie Smaill, who shared a similarly irreverent attitude with Daryl towards climbing and gives a very real sense of the the tone of the times back then. I digress. Smaill was the author who first included the bulk of Daryl's new route activities, but just about any book published since 1976(?) should have every one of his significant ascents listed. The only other thing that may be of interest that I can quickly remember was his first free ascent of the Split Pillar on Grand Wall (with Eric), which at the time was an amazing feat.
Hope this info is of some use and accurate, to boot.
P.S. (to Wonder) - the next time I steal a car & if the cops are chasing me through Qualicum at the time, I'll be sure to wave to your wife on the way through.
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lightweight_yank
Trad climber
Sparx
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May 19, 2006 - 12:03am PT
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I thought Qualicum was somewhere in San Diego ;-)
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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May 19, 2006 - 12:11am PT
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Dear lightweight yank: I am certain that your Qualicum near San Diego is every bit as lovely as ours.
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lightweight_yank
Trad climber
Sparx
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May 19, 2006 - 12:43am PT
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Dear Stewie, I'm positive that it isn't, but by now I have consumed enough ETOH that I am unable to discern the difference...thanks for the clarification. Great to see you at the Chieftain 2 years ago...
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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May 19, 2006 - 12:50am PT
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Stewart,
BITD = Back In The Day
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Largo
Sport climber
Venice, Ca
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May 19, 2006 - 08:44am PT
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Off topic (just for a second) but when and how did Eric Weinstein die?? Somehow I missed that.
JL
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