donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Nov 23, 2012 - 08:57am PT
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Infidel means literally "one without faith." Faith is belief that does not rest on logic or material evidence.....I rest my case.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 23, 2012 - 10:16am PT
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Infidel means literally "one without faith." Faith is belief that does not rest on logic or material evidence.....I rest my case.
Stop using logic, Jim. Sell your line of bullshit to an Islamist and get back to me. Hopefully your head will still be intact.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Nov 23, 2012 - 10:20am PT
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 23, 2012 - 10:24am PT
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Oh yes, Marlow, anti-theists would love to marginalize people like me to Don Quixote status. I know.
Keep it up.
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Borut
climber
french, spider, cheater
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Nov 23, 2012 - 10:30am PT
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Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Nov 23, 2012 - 10:46am PT
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Hate to say it bluering but you always talk before you think and most of what comes out of your mouth is moronic with a nice dash of racism.....was Tuesday 11/6 a fun day for you?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 23, 2012 - 10:55am PT
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I have no idea what yer talking about, Jim. I am a racist now?
Dude, WTF? You are increasingly getting weird.
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Jimmy Russells
climber
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Nov 23, 2012 - 10:58am PT
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Baby Jesus facepalms everytime bluering posts.
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jstan
climber
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Nov 23, 2012 - 11:11am PT
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"Oh father! Save me from my friends."
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Nov 23, 2012 - 11:38am PT
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We Don't Have To LIKE Them; We Just HAVE To Love Them!
Jus Start'in
BB
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 23, 2012 - 12:06pm PT
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Baby Jesus facepalms everytime bluering posts.
Wow! that is profound, man. You are so clever.
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khanom
Trad climber
Greeley Hill
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2012 - 12:43pm PT
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anti-theists would love to marginalize people like me to Don Quixote status. I know.
Keep it up.
Ok! No problem! And how could we not after your viscous tirades against anyone who disagrees with your beliefs?
But I guess you don't see the hypocrisy, do you?
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Dr. F.
Ice climber
SoCal
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Nov 23, 2012 - 01:09pm PT
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When are Atheists shoving our beliefs down any one's throats??
Where?
I haven't seen it yet, we are the quietest group on the planet.
Is is that we have a thread where we talk about it, Is this the threat you speak of??
or is it us defending the Constitution and protecting the Complete separation of the Church and the State!
I know some want the State to become church, but the Majority of us are opposed, and for good reason.
And if your church is saying anything political, then their tax exempt status should be revoked
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Nov 23, 2012 - 03:09pm PT
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I have to agree with Dr. F.
I'm quiet and leave people alone until they tell me that I have to pray to their god, or I can't buy beer on Sunday because it's god's day, or I can't marry someone unless it's condoned by their bible. These are all very real problems that I have to deal with regularly, especially the blue laws.
Christians, and all of the other religious loonies out there, are constantly trying to shove their religion down everyone else's throats.
If you want to base your life on bizarre ancient mythology, then knock yourself out. But don't try to force-feed me with your kooky mythology.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 24, 2012 - 08:34am PT
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Well, I agree. I dislike having religious views constantly foisted upon me. Much like other views that I'm told I have to accept, and if I don't accept them that I'm intolerant or "hateful" for not accepting them.
Religion is a personal matter, much like other issues.
Can someone tell me why celebrating "the atheist life" on a public climbing forum is less offensive as someone celebrating a love of Christ?
God bless y'all...
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Nov 24, 2012 - 08:42am PT
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Because people use religion to kill, murder and maim to a much higher degree these days than athiests. Sure, athiests had a few dictators, but that was in a time before the internet.
Every, I dunno, minute? Every minute a child dies under the age of 5 in poverty and despair? How many miles from the reach of what would be considered an evangelical savior?
God works in mysterious ways. Or he is an as#@&%e. But the idea that I should pray for my SAT test when that sh#t is going on seems silly.
HOWEVER - that is just my opinion. I know many deeply spiritual people and they pick up on a frequency that I can't seem to tune into. The idea that spirituality can't be measured so doesn't exist I think is just because a beaker hasn't yet been invented - just like a monkey can't 'get' algebra, I'll bet humanity can't 'get' the subtle cosmic forces at play in energy and our own minds.
But that doesn't mean that there was a dude who was swallowed by a fish and the earth is 10,000 years old.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 24, 2012 - 08:52am PT
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Why ya all arguin?
Git to work, the country is falling apart and falling off the cliff.
Everything tastes like sh!t too.
We can't eat nuts and bolts ya slackers .....
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 24, 2012 - 08:57am PT
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Interesting, Greg.
Some people seek religion only for comfort, and I've always been wary of those people.
Others find religion and explore it, eventually discovering they were always there, they had just walked away from it.
I can not describe it any better than that. It's difficult and way to profound to put into words. I also hate getting all preachy, but even with your eyes closed, you will come into contact with God (or Allah, or whatever). It's just a matter of accepting it, or discarding it as trivial.
Someone like Jennie probably could put it better...
EDIT: Or Werner. Hehe...
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Borut
climber
french, spider, cheater
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Nov 24, 2012 - 09:42am PT
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Rev. bluering, you believe, undeniably. But you are being rude. This thread is called "I Like the Atheist Life", so why do you post here if you don't like it? Atheists are often people that made bad experiences with belief, maybe theirs, maybe that of others. You should try to understand this.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 24, 2012 - 10:41am PT
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Rev. bluering, you believe, undeniably. But you are being rude. This thread is called "I Like the Atheist Life", so why do you post here if you don't like it? Atheists are often people that made bad experiences with belief, maybe theirs, maybe that of others. You should try to understand this.
Maybe so. I'm just adding my $.02 to the discourse. Capisce?
Should I disallow crazy atheists from commenting on religious threads? I couldn't, and I wouldn't.
Stay safe 1st Amendment!
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