Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban, loss of Tour de France


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Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 15, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
This is about this total POS aszhole who worked so hard to destroy anyone that got in his way for his own financial gain .....

Like Getty, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Weyerhaeuser, Ford, Walton, Cruise,
etc etc etc?

And what's that got to do with YOU swami?

Think hard, give-a-shit meter still below zero.....

Stupid Americans.

Social climber
Jan 15, 2013 - 01:44pm PT
At least the top 20 riders on the tour are ALL doping.

They sure did.

But not one of those riders imposed the financial agony, personal defamation of character agenda and turmoil on all those that got in their way of fame and fortune in building their personal empire as did Lance Armstrong in the past 16 plus years.

This one really strikes me as truly sad and morally pathetic. I really hope that she goes after him for all that he has and puts him out to lunch.

6. What do you say to Emma O'Reilly, who was a young Dublin native when she was first hired by the U.S. Postal team to give massages to the riders after races?

In the early 2000s, she told stories of rampant doping and how she was used to transport the drugs across international borders. In the USADA report, she testified that you tried to "make my life hell."

Her story was true, Lance, wasn't it? And you knew it was true. Yet despite knowing it was true, you, a famous multimillionaire superstar, used high-priced lawyers to sue this simple woman for more money than she was worth in England, where slander laws favor the famous. She had no chance to fight it.

She testified that you tried to ruin her by spreading word that she was a prostitute with a heavy drinking problem.

"The traumatizing part," she once told the New York Times, "was dealing with telling the truth."

Do you want to apologize to her? Not in general. I mean directly and by name. I mean, Lance, of all the people to attack like that, of all the people you had power and wealth over, you had to go after her? How Lance, could you do this to someone, and why would anyone want to believe again in someone capable of doing this to someone?;_ylt=Ao1lB44.tVD8JExRa_YvRzY5nYcB;_ylu=

Like Getty, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Weyerhaeuser, Ford, Walton, Cruise, etc etc etc?

So it is OK with you "SURVIVAL" to completely fk over anyone that gets in your way of success.

Got it!

More like morally pathetic self-centered Americans.

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 15, 2013 - 01:54pm PT
No, it's not ok "BPTER"!!

But why is Lancey boy worth more attention than all the other rich as#@&%es in the world?

Oh, ok, got it.

Jan 15, 2013 - 02:05pm PT
Yes stupid Americans

The year 2012 consisted of a continuous sequence of destructive acts by Congress and the White House.

In a final destructive act, the Senate passed the National Defense Authorization Act for 2013.

This act continues the unconstitutional grant of power to the executive branch to violate all rights of US citizens.

In the US laws cannot take precedence over the Constitution.

Yet, we now have successive National Defense Authorization Acts that render the Bill of Rights moot.

There is no public uproar over the idea that national defense requires that US citizens lose the protection of law that is granted by the US Constitution.

When citizens stand defenseless before their own government, what national defense do they have?

The obvious conclusion is that most Americans are indifferent to liberty and are content with tyranny.

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 15, 2013 - 02:10pm PT
That's only the beginning of the stupidity!

If Americans stick to their eating and exercise habits, future historians will look back on the early 21st century as a golden age of svelte.

Using a model of population and other trends, a new report released on Tuesday by the Trust for America's Health and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation projects that half of U.S. adults will be obese by 2030 unless Americans change their ways.

The "F as in Fat" report highlights the current glum picture of the U.S. obesity epidemic, in which 35.7 percent of adults and 16.9 percent of children age 2 to 19 are obese, as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported earlier this year.

But for the first time, the report builds on state-by-state data from the CDC to project obesity rates. In every state, that rate will reach at least 44 percent by 2030. In 13, that number would exceed 60 percent.

Obesity raises the risk of numerous diseases, from type 2 diabetes to endometrial cancer, meaning more sick people and higher medical costs in the future, the report said.

It projects as many as 7.9 million new cases of diabetes a year, compared with 1.9 million new cases in recent years. There could also be 6.8 million new cases of chronic heart disease and stroke every year, compared with 1.3 million new cases a year now.

The increasing burden of illness will go right to the bottom line, adding $66 billion in annual obesity-related medical costs over and above today's $147 billion to $210 billion. Total U.S. healthcare spending is estimated at $2.7 trillion.

That projection supports a study published earlier this year in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine that found that by 2030, 42 percent of U.S. adults could be obese, adding $550 billion to healthcare costs over that period.


As with all projections, from climate models to Charles Dickens' "A Christmas Carol," human actions can prevent the worst of the scenarios, according to health policy experts.

"This is a tale of two futures," said Jeffrey Levi of George Washington University and the executive director of Trust for America's Health. "We're at a turning point where if we don't do something now to mitigate these trends, the cost in human health and healthcare spending will be enormous."

Obesity is defined as having a body mass index (BMI) above 30. Overweight means a BMI of 25 to 29.9. BMI is calculated by taking weight in pounds and dividing it by the square of height in inches, and multiplying the result by 703. For instance, someone who is 5 feet, 5 inches tall and weighs 185 pounds (84 kg) has a BMI of 30.8.

Obesity rates among U.S. adults have more than doubled from the 15 percent of 1980. In that same time, they have more than tripled among children.

Since the CDC found that the percentage of obese children and adults was essentially unchanged between 2008 and 2010, some experts question whether the "F as in Fat" model overstates future obesity by assuming past trends continue in a straight line.

"This is a strong assumption," said economist Justin Trogdon of RTI International in North Carolina. "Recent evidence from other surveys suggest obesity rates may be leveling off."

Mathematician Martin Brown of Britain's National Heart Forum, a nonprofit group, who led development of the model, said it takes a longer view by design.

"You have to take trends over a number of years," he said. "In the age groups that matter, there just isn't much evidence of a leveling off in obesity rates."


Obesity has long been associated with education and income. The report found that about one-third of adults without a high school diploma were obese, compared with about one-fifth of those who graduated from college or technical college.

And one-third of adults who earn less than $15,000 per year are obese, compared to one-quarter of those who earned $50,000 or more per year. The obesity-poverty connection reflects such facts that calorie-dense foods are cheap and that poor neighborhoods have fewer playgrounds, sidewalks and other amenities that encourage exercise.

As a result, many states projected to have the most obesity in 2030 do now, too. In 2011, 12 states had an adult-obesity rate above 30 percent, with Mississippi the highest at 34.9 percent. Colorado was the lowest at 20.7 percent.

The report projects that in 2030 in Mississippi, 66.7 percent of adults will be obese, as will 44.8 percent in Colorado, which will still be the thinnest state.

More surprising are projections for states such as Delaware, now ranked 19 for obesity with a rate of 28.8 percent. The model uses 1999 as a baseline, explained Brown. "So if a state had a low rate of obesity in 1999 and is fairly high now, that indicates a steep rate of increase, which we believe will not go away." Result: an obesity rate of 64.7 percent in Delaware in 2030, making it the third-most obese state.

States facing the greatest percentage increase in obesity-related medical costs are now in the middle of the pack.

New Jersey faces the largest increase in costs, 34.5 percent, as its obesity rate is projected to climb from 23.7 percent today to 48.6 percent in 2030. Eight other states could see increases of 20 percent and 30 percent, including New Hampshire, Colorado and Alaska.

Trust for America's Health sees room to change that trajectory with the right interventions.

"We have learned that with a concerted effort you can change the culture of a community, including its level of physical activity, eating habits, what foods are offered in schools, and whether families eat together," said Levi.

In New York City, for instance, obesity for elementary and middle-school students dropped 5.5 percent from the 2006-07 school year to 2010-11, thanks mostly to healthier school lunches, public health experts said.

"A lot of this is about making healthy choices easier and not mandating healthier lifestyles," Levi said.

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 15, 2013 - 02:15pm PT

How anyone believed that lying sack is beyond me...

It was so fuking OBVIOUS that he was CHEATING all along...

Dude's a LOSER!!!...

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
Jan 15, 2013 - 02:24pm PT
But why is Lancey boy worth more attention than all the other rich as#@&%es in the world?

I think its a bit more nuanced but essentially you are right.

I'd love to see Bush and Cheney get destroyed by either Oprah or in a criminal court. It would do a world of good.

A long way from where I started
Jan 15, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
I wonder how many of the "Lance should be destroyed" crowd will be glued to their television sets this weekend, watching enthralled as a couple of hundred juiced up monsters vie for the right to play in the Super Bowl?

If LA deserves to be prosecuted and punished for using performance enhancing drugs as an athlete, why do American football players get a free pass?

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 15, 2013 - 03:05pm PT
why do American football players get a free pass?

You wouldn't understand, because you speak Canada.


A long way from where I started
Jan 15, 2013 - 03:11pm PT
Oh yeah? Well fuk off, eh. Ya hoser.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
Jan 15, 2013 - 03:20pm PT
oh yeah wull fuk yoo too ya quasi hose head.

So what are the doping rules in foose ball anyway?

yeah thats what I thought. so as usual ethics are tossed out the window for the imperative of spectacle

Now that is america in a Nut shell!

Look at the gun thing. How dare morality get in the way of a good ol' everymans entitlement to a machine gun!


Jan 15, 2013 - 03:21pm PT
why do American football players get a free pass?

For the same reasons those scrubs playing in canadian football leauge get a pass on being juiced up.

No one cares ya hoser's


Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 15, 2013 - 03:24pm PT
(American) "All Canadian women are hookers or hockey players."

(Canadian) "Hey mutherf*%$er, my wife is Canadian"

(American) "Oh yeah, who's she play for?"

*Told to me by a DEA agent/ex-minor league hockey player who ended up with a black eye and a missing tooth!
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
Jan 15, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
A free agent i guess

Anyway, might as well look on the bright side. Spectacle ain't boring!

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 15, 2013 - 03:34pm PT

Doping in Football and/or ANY sport/activity is flat out fuking STUPID and SHOULD be STOPPED!!!...


Trad climber
Jan 15, 2013 - 03:56pm PT

Armstrong will have done his math, and worked out where the percentage lies: it's with confession. The benefits outweigh the costs: he'll earn that rehabilitation, but he will come out ahead.


Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Jan 15, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
It's pretty easy to sit back in our comfy chairs and say "Oh I knew it all along" or some variation thereof. I always said that I would believe his story until proven otherwise, it's been proven otherwise, I no longer believe him. And that's pretty much the end of it. I'm not a competitive cyclist, and I don't think anyone on here is. In any case, no one here has been directly affected by this situation.

The sport of cycling and especially the Tour has been rampant with cheating and doping since pretty much day one. In the old days, racers would hitch a ride on a train or in a truck for parts of a stage.

When you get down to it, everyone in the lead peloton is doping. You can't compete unless you dope too, for the most part. Not excusing what he did in any way, but there was no way to give his victories to anyone else because everyone else in the damn peloton was dirty too.

What I don't see is what he has to gain at this point. He's not going to get any sympathy from me or many people I know - he made the bed so lie in it. Even if they reduce his ban, it's going to be reduced to 8 years - which is the same as a lifetime as far as being competitive, unless he plans to race in the senior class?
He's not going to make money off of this - as a matter of fact, the lawsuits are probably going to take every penny he has. Not to mention that fact that they are trying every way they can to pursue legal charges against him.

The only thing that I can think of is that he is doing this so that he can attack the IOC for "covering up" for him. And the Olympic committee is already saying that if he proves that the IOC did in fact cover for him, that they will have no choice but to remove cycling from Olympic sport. Way to go Lance, let's ruin even more lives just so you can feel better about yourself.

The guy has shown that he's a pile of trash of the lowest order, and no amount of apology is going to change the public's perception of him, IMO.

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Jan 15, 2013 - 05:15pm PT
I wish I had Lance's Muscles!

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Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
Jan 15, 2013 - 05:43pm PT

Who is this Oprah person everyone's talking about?
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
Jan 15, 2013 - 05:48pm PT
What I don't see is what he has to gain at this point.

It's as plain as the nose on your face.

He's a Christian. You don't get into heaven if you're a liar.

It's one of the Ten Commandments.
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