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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:44am PT
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And we are surprised?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:46am PT
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Bill Koch once said that the fastest athletes would still be the fastest even if they were not on PEDs...
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:47am PT
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Nope. I just read the facts....
Oh please. I live in Arizona and am quite familiar with political persecution by kangaroo courts.
Curt
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:48am PT
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I hope you know Chief, I mean no disrespect - some here seem content to perform ad-hominem, but you have a very valid points. I just can't get worked up about it anymore.
edit - I have no idea who that photo is, but I don't have TV and only use the internet for slandering people online and porn : /
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:48am PT
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Chief...Is that one of your russian friends...?
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:50am PT
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Actually I think its the rat that trained the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Master Splinter?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:55am PT
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who gets all those El Cap FA's?
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:57am PT
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According to the article , only the UCI has the power to ban Lance , not USADA....Wha , wha , wha , wha...!
Correct, and UCI asked USADA to turn the investigation over to them. USADA refused. To me that speaks volumes. I hope UCI returns the favor and tells USADA to pound sand.
Curt
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 24, 2012 - 01:05am PT
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Actually Lance wanted to do this triathlon recently and got kicked out by these guys who are after him.
So technically he's really not fully retired ..... :-)
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Aug 24, 2012 - 01:09am PT
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You're giving me a life ban? I'm retired dipshits. Go f*#k yourselves"
LOL
I thought the same thing.
Hows that work anyways?
Werner got to it just before me, Lance was going to do Ironman Hawaii, it was going to be a big deal.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Aug 24, 2012 - 01:16am PT
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"John Wayne never wore Lycra"
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Aug 24, 2012 - 01:17am PT
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^^^really^^^^
No big deal to me
I meant from a media standpoint. Even LA doing it drugged to the hilt couldn't get me to watch the horrible coverage of the Ironman.
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 24, 2012 - 01:17am PT
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Wait a minute.
Now why you hating Susie????
:-)
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Rankin
Social climber
Greensboro, North Carolina
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Aug 24, 2012 - 01:20am PT
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How can anyone be surprised? Most other winning Tour riders over the past 15+ years have been popped for doping at some point. Also, the main risk for men who take steroids is, hello, testicular cancer.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Aug 24, 2012 - 01:26am PT
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The USADA's arrogance in believing that they can strip Lance of his titles even though they have no jurisdiction over that issue speaks volumes to me. Few things are scarier than an enforcement agency that has no understanding or concern about the limits of its power.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Aug 24, 2012 - 01:35am PT
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France surrendered.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Aug 24, 2012 - 01:45am PT
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France was also right next to Germany. Isolation for the win!
U S A! U S A!
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Aug 24, 2012 - 02:02am PT
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Sport is whatever people create. Once it gets big enough, armchair sportsmen/politicians can get involved and make money from advertising and make rules and boss people around. I can't imagine if they applied this to rock climbing, doing drug tests on everyone before they got on El Cap, timing them, allowing them only certain cams or nuts with weight restrictions on gear, putting advertising and cameras all over the wall with inflatable finish lines at the top, etc. Looks clownish when you put it all into our context.
I respect Lance for saying 'screw you, I'm going to ride my bike'. I would say the same thing to them if they tried to get involved in climbing. Most climbers would, as soon as the drug tests started!
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Aug 24, 2012 - 02:27am PT
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I take this as a confession, although he is still in denial. Seeing the Tour this year made me think that they are finally starting to get somewhere with the anti-dope work within cycling.
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