Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban, loss of Tour de France

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Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Aug 23, 2012 - 08:25pm PT
Ghost, I am sure you agree:

The fox smells his own hole
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Aug 23, 2012 - 08:25pm PT
The Chief,

Your take on it is based on moral righteousness about the perception of unfairness due to scrutiny of a winning competitor.

Armstrong is justifiably standing open to the court of civil opinion to rule VS. sport associations with vested image issues.

All the Human Rights and sports Tribunals and other quasi-legal comfort courts have no real weight if an individual dares to face the real legal logisticians.

The guy wants to take it public for real. Let him.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Aug 23, 2012 - 08:26pm PT
Let me ask you this: if you didn't dope, and came in 2nd place to Lance, would your thoughts be different?

I always wondered if the loss of the testosterone which the other (missing) ball should have pumped out was never an issue nor slowed the man down. Clearly the man has drive and talent. He wouldn't back off so easily if he thought he could win his case.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
Aug 23, 2012 - 08:29pm PT
ghost,
Seems you just get a giant boner at the thought of pushing some hero off a pedestal.

LOL!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 23, 2012 - 08:32pm PT
I doped when I climbed El Cap,.....ten times........

Damn, are y'all gonna take my titles away?????
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Aug 23, 2012 - 08:34pm PT
Yes Bruce,

Especially you....
sullly

Trad climber
Aug 23, 2012 - 08:40pm PT
His smugness lost me long ago.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 23, 2012 - 08:42pm PT
Cyclists have been "enhancing" long before Lance was even born. Pull your pin head out of your ass and focus on your issues.

Big difference between those dudes and Lance....

They came clean and faced the music.

But of course in the eyes of all who adore LA, that means nothing.


From his statement today:

"(The) faith of all the cancer survivors around the world. Everything I do off the bike would go away, too,"Armstrong said then. "And don't think for a second I don't understand that. It's not about money for me. Everything. It's also about the faith that people have put in me over the years. So all of that would be erased."

In other words, by his actions today, he allows the court of public opinion to decide his faith. Regardless the truth. Knowing that if he continued with the arbitration, he would definitely be outed and all his integrity would be shitcanned.

Genius, maybe. Fact is, Bruyneel is fighting it. That will disclose evidence and testimony that will definitely out LA.


I say that LA will come clean next week. Begging for sympathy from all his thousands of diehard followers. Of course getting it as exemplified here.

That is the tale of our society... regardless the truth.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Aug 23, 2012 - 08:54pm PT
There is no guarantee of sympathy be it from current admirers or civil court.

The dumb is always when "the court of public opinion" is full of hurt in face of civil or criminal court findings.

Law is logic not emotion.
corniss chopper

climber
breaking the speed of gravity
Aug 23, 2012 - 08:55pm PT
Lance's net worth is $125 million so in a sense he did get away
with it.


http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/olympians/lance-armstrong-net-worth/

Curt

Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
Aug 23, 2012 - 09:03pm PT
That is the tale of our society... regardless the truth.

Give me a fukking break. The last thing you care about is truth. Maybe LA doped and maybe he didn't--I have no absolute proof either way and neither do you. Doping is/was rampant in cycling and likely as not, the guy who finished second to LA in each TDF was doping. All you seem truly passionate about is tearing down a legend.

Curt
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 23, 2012 - 09:04pm PT
Lance's net worth is $125 million

Oh, but a large sum of that worth will most certainly be at stake after today's events.

KNOCK KNOCK.... hey Lance buddy, ah how about returning that fancy doe we gave you for winning them TDF's that you now no longer own.

Indeed many of manufactures such as Nike etal will not want anything to do with this dude. And most certainly will have to maintain their integrity with the rest of their clientele globally. Being associated with LA after today will not enhance that global marketing value worth billions.

Example, Tiger Woods.

All you seem truly passionate about is tearing down a legend.

A legend in your own minds. Not nor ever was in mine. Fact is, was not in many others either.

Hell, if he had a rocket super glued to his ass the last ten years and outright cheated and still won, you all would be in the same bs "Legend" sand box.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Aug 23, 2012 - 09:05pm PT
THis is a joke. They all dope. They should simply go after the new winners the way they went after Lance until they accept bans and then go after the third place guys

Sure, they try to avoid being technically tested on the wrong side of the law and Lance beat all that, so they go after him anyway

Peace

Karl
Curt

Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
Aug 23, 2012 - 09:06pm PT
Example, Tiger Woods.

Yeah, Tiger's really hurting. Do you just hate all Americans?

A legend in your own minds. Not nor ever was in mine. Fact is, was not in many others either.

Hell, if he had a rocket super glued to his ass the last ten years and outright cheated and still won, you all would be in the same bs "Legend" sand box.

While you're on your pathological mission, why not strip Michael Phelps of his London medals for the Louis Vuitton ads?

Curt
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 23, 2012 - 09:07pm PT
BFD if Lance doped...I think his other accomplishments , surviving cancer and living the grueling lifestyle of a pro rider far out shine any accusations the peanut gallery can throw at him...And do i have to mention the exposure Armstrong gave to the American cycling industry...? RJ
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Aug 23, 2012 - 09:08pm PT
He's every bit the hero that Barry Bonds is...oh and Michael Vick...Pete Rose...
this just in

climber
north fork
Aug 23, 2012 - 09:10pm PT
Funny, how things change. The poster boy of cycling, being hunted by those who promoted him, because he was great for the sport and ratings. Same bullshit with baseball, when Sosa and McGuire were battling for the single season home run record. MLB pumped it up for ratings, then crucified them when doping became a problem. Like they didn't support the ratings and money it brought and played dumb in knowing it was happening. All the same sh#t to make money and guess what they're using Armstrong to get headlines again. "don't hate the player, hate the game" actually don't hate any of it, it's just a game and who gives a sh#t.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 23, 2012 - 09:11pm PT
And do i have to mention the exposure Armstrong gave to the American cycling industry

Yeah after today... it pays to be a cheat! A pure example of this modern day society. Do what ever it costs to get to the top and be #1. Money and prestige is everything. Spending millions to keep yourself from being outed.

Honor and Integrity no longer mean jacksh#t. Nothing.

How admirable.





KARL: Wow!






Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Aug 23, 2012 - 09:15pm PT
By the agreed upon standards in place, he did not dope, PERIOD. A+B samples, positive...they didn't have them, thus no evidence. Hearsay from the pelton is not a positive sample. Some wankers with a hard on for LA, also not a positive sample.

My intial thoughts were:

1. Who the F$%^k is the USADA, and
2. On what planet are they living if they think they have some kind of authority over who does or does not hold the TDF titles.

These clowns are so far out to lunch they're having a picnic on Mars. I wouldn't bother with them either if I were him. "You're stripping my titles? Bwhahaha, you don't have the authority dipshits. You're giving me a life ban? I'm retired dipshits. Go f*#k yourselves"

Good for LA. At some point you have to say "enough is enough".

crunch

Social climber
CO
Aug 23, 2012 - 09:16pm PT
No one's immune. I heard they were investigating Donini next....
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