Lance Armstrong accepts lifetime ban, loss of Tour de France

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rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:07am PT
BFD if Lance doped...I think his other accomplishments , surviving cancer and living the grueling lifestyle of a pro rider far out shine any accusations the peanut gallery can throw at him...And do i have to mention the exposure Armstrong gave to the American cycling industry...? RJ
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:08am PT
He's every bit the hero that Barry Bonds is...oh and Michael Vick...Pete Rose...
this just in

climber
north fork
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:10am PT
Funny, how things change. The poster boy of cycling, being hunted by those who promoted him, because he was great for the sport and ratings. Same bullshit with baseball, when Sosa and McGuire were battling for the single season home run record. MLB pumped it up for ratings, then crucified them when doping became a problem. Like they didn't support the ratings and money it brought and played dumb in knowing it was happening. All the same sh#t to make money and guess what they're using Armstrong to get headlines again. "don't hate the player, hate the game" actually don't hate any of it, it's just a game and who gives a sh#t.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:15am PT
By the agreed upon standards in place, he did not dope, PERIOD. A+B samples, positive...they didn't have them, thus no evidence. Hearsay from the pelton is not a positive sample. Some wankers with a hard on for LA, also not a positive sample.

My intial thoughts were:

1. Who the F$%^k is the USADA, and
2. On what planet are they living if they think they have some kind of authority over who does or does not hold the TDF titles.

These clowns are so far out to lunch they're having a picnic on Mars. I wouldn't bother with them either if I were him. "You're stripping my titles? Bwhahaha, you don't have the authority dipshits. You're giving me a life ban? I'm retired dipshits. Go f*#k yourselves"

Good for LA. At some point you have to say "enough is enough".

crunch

Social climber
CO
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:16am PT
No one's immune. I heard they were investigating Donini next....
MisterE

Social climber
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:17am PT
WBraun

climber
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:18am PT
You're giving me a life ban? I'm retired dipshits. Go f*#k yourselves"

LOL

I thought the same thing.

Hows that work anyways?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:20am PT
Chief...What Tour did Jack Shite ride in...? RJ
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:22am PT
I heard Donini was the Tiger Woods of camp four...?
WBraun

climber
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:22am PT
Chief has a good argument so we'll just have to see how it plays out.

This will be vedy interesting .......
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:25am PT
Meanwhile the artic melts...
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:25am PT
No one's immune. I heard they were investigating Donini next....

Geez. I thought that one would stay buried. But since you bring it up, what I heard is that Donini accidentally combined the doses for all four guys on that Latok trip into his own syringe. It gave him super powers, but once the investigation gets rolling they'll definitely strip him of all his first ascents.
stevep

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:28am PT
Chief, I think it's pretty likely Armstrong doped.

But pretty much everyone else did too. If you think Kloden is in the clear, you haven't been paying too close attention:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/german-nada-looking-to-investigate-kloden-sinkewitz-and-kessler-for-blood-doping
Curt

Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:29am PT
Chief has a good argument so we'll just have to see how it plays out.

This will be vedy interesting .......

If The Chief were less selective in his outrage, he might have something. This will be interesting, though.

Curt
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:33am PT
The UCI owes the USADA nothing. As a matter of fact, they may resent this. Let's wait and see. Looks like a chess game. May not save him though.

Pretty lame to bring it so far after the fact. Someone has a big ol' hairy hard on to take Lance down.

Good reason for pictures of Sheryl. Thanks E ;-)
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:34am PT
By the time they get done DQing riders there will be no records in the tour.
Curt

Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:35am PT
Pretty lame to bring it so far after the fact. Someone has a big ol' hairy hard on to take Lance down.

The Chief runs USADA? I guess everything makes perfect sense now.

Curt
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:39am PT
OH NO! He f*#ked up the Ride Around France game!

Hurry, let's get Congress involved!!!!









F*#king Americans. Want the biggest heroes, with the biggest muscles and the best times. So focused on being #1 that we forget sometimes that to be #1 means you have be a very, very smart cheater.




Cycling is on the extreme low-technical end. I am not in any way, shape, or form a voice in the cycling world but here's whats up.

The less technical prowess needed, the more of an effect supplimentation is going to have.

cycling is so simplistic that it is one of the most even playing fields. This isn't MMA where some guys are wrestlers, some guys strike, some guys do both. This isn't climbing where some guys boulder, some like to rope up.

Sh#t, this isn't even Alpinism, where the weather and conditions can make litmus tests impossible.

This is like Nordic skiing, a game of V02 Max. It is performing 'almost' in a vacuum. Yes, there is skill involved - I used to be a competitive runner (kind of still am, but I compete terribly. I know all about competing in very straightforward, very boring sports.)



Long story short, Congress met more for the Steroid scandal in baseball than the Iraq or Afghanistan war.






We love underdogs. We love old dogs. We love happy stories. That's why Lance made us all feel like we got kicked in the dick.


Americans don't own his triumphs, no more than we own his defeats. He was a dude, who f*#ked up. The fact that people feel so shitty to him is absolutely, stunningly mind boggling.


Educate yourselves on PED's, on TRT, on blood doping. Then train at a world class level. Then have the entire country behind you, expecting a win; anything else is failure. Have some empathy.







When I was 12 I beat the f*#k out of a small jewish kid in junior high. He wasn't cool, was super tiny, and was kind of an as#@&%e. One day I snapped, and gave it to him. I don't remember his name, or a lot about it, but it was the shittiest, lowest I've felt in my life, and it stays with me to this day. I'm going to bet that my f*#k up hurt the world a lot less than a road cyclist trying to use a banned substance.


Am I disappointed? Sure. I wanted it to be real, too, because that pull of Patriotism and familiarity is pretty strong. I wish he made better decisions, but for his own good. To be honest, the only reason almost any of us are rooting for him is because his parents decided to sh#t him out in Texas instead of Tehran.




If after reading my rant, if you haven't found peace and solice (not likely, sh#t I don't even got that) I have one last thought. How much have YOU raised to cure cancer? I hope it's a lot. I haven't done sh#t.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:40am PT
There are millions of dollars in endorsements and prize money at stake here


Sh#t, I wonder why he cheated... LOL
gonzo chemist

climber
Fort Collins, CO
Aug 24, 2012 - 12:41am PT
I think they should take away the Rolling Stones' gold (and platinum) albums. Those guys were doped out of their minds!

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