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Curt

Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
Aug 14, 2012 - 08:56pm PT
Just went over there. Lot of people are on both sites.

About the same as ST. Except here we have a political thread.

Nothing but climbing on RC.

Check out the "Soap Box" forum at RC.com. It's a veritable cesspool of political threads!!

Curt
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Aug 14, 2012 - 09:03pm PT
content was king, which kept me coming back to ST, and friends on the site, and DMT trip reports.

Plus, not having time for more than 4 or 5 forums at most! Someone had to give.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Aug 14, 2012 - 09:04pm PT
hey there say, all.... at the exact time i was ready to actually step in here, i had also SEEN that site... somehow, it just didn't have the proper magnetic pull, i reckon, and everything 'underthesun' seemed to be here...


then, once i came on in, folks that knew of were here (brother's name, actually drew me first, with the 'welcome chappy' thread)... what a NEAT place, i thought, to WELCOME my brother! ...

the rest is the reason why i stay--it is just different somehow,
EASY to read too, and EASY to post and EASY to see subject matter...

and more important...
the folks here really have the info, shares, help, knowledge, and easy to see trip reports, and are somehow more alive than the other rockclimbing site seemed to be...


hard to explain, too, but the shares on all the posts here, seem to always go either a step higher, branch out to the side, and just extend into what i'd call (from what they were when titled and posted):

they CLIMB in the way of sharing and relating... not flat, or stalled out, or, well, it's hard to explain...

very versitile folks here, that know they climbing and know how to share life, with it...


well, i just thought that was mighty special, is alll...
*never got to see much of the other place after that...
perhaps once or twice, when there was link...

well, hope they will do well, or better, or whatever it is that they need.... :)
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Aug 14, 2012 - 09:10pm PT
Farouk, dear lad, you might want to jump on some of my first ascents in the Valley....better yet, add some spice and do them with EB's, swami belt and sans cams.

Anastasia, come on down....soon!
mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Aug 14, 2012 - 09:15pm PT
"Farouk, dear lad, you might want to jump on some of my first ascents in the Valley....better yet, add some spice and do them with EB's, swami belt and sans cams."



Jim, you forgot to mention rusty old quarter inch bolts.
Curt

Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
Aug 14, 2012 - 09:22pm PT
Getting more and more like a RC.com thread by the minute...

Curt
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 14, 2012 - 09:22pm PT
Check out the "Soap Box" forum at RC.com. It's a veritable cesspool of political threads!!

Curt

And they have Fatrad

http://www.rockclimbing.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2596050;#2596050
Curt

Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
Aug 14, 2012 - 09:24pm PT
^^^^ Too funny. I hadn't even noticed that yet.

Curt
rich sims

Social climber
co
Aug 14, 2012 - 09:27pm PT
So Donini
Rumor is you did a climb or three in CA. ever climb anywhere else LOL
Is that climbing place Patagonia or Patagucci in California anyway??

What’s RC.com anyway if Werner is going maybe I will check it out,,,,right
So I was in the white water forums and missed climbing get online.
MPs more COlorado current and I do live there.
I do hit ST first to see what’s current
klk

Trad climber
cali
Aug 14, 2012 - 09:40pm PT
n00bs engidorking each other.

now with more fattrad.

that'll help the brand
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:03pm PT
I read and post selectively (for example, I've never so much as looked at a Supertopo political thread). I have other outlets for other interests, I read the climbing sites mostly in order to learn something about climbing. I've learned plenty from rc.com over the years.

I do my share of engidorking (klk's term of endearment) on several sites (I am not, mind you, and engineer, I just play one on the internet), but there do seem to be more engidorks on rc.com. Some of them really know what they are talking about.

I like the format of Supertopo, I like the slant that age and experience provides, and I like the ease of posting photos. Although various forms of stupidity occur here that are the same as the stupidities one finds on other sites, there is also a willingness and an ability to come together as a community that seems much much rarer on other sites.

A while back, some of you may remember that I posted about helping a climber who had been injured. I posted the same thing here, on gunks.com, rc.com, and mp.com. The response from people here was overwhelming and far beyond anything I could have imagined. Orders of magnitude beyond. Gunks.com, with a much smaller base, responded as well. The other two sites---nada. A place I didn't post, neclimbing.com, picked up a link and took off in another direction with a slew of vituperative attacks on the victims.

What I learned is that beneath the various controversies, struttings, preenings, posings, and teapot tempests one finds here---things that are pretty much the same as on other sites---there seems to be a deep and generous current of common decency, and that is not something that appears everywhere. Whatever age may have done to our climbing, it seems to have burnished our communal character.

I apologize to those of you whose internet persona is dinged by these intimations of decency, and promise not to make things worse by mentioning it again.

But thanks anyway.



Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:16pm PT
RGOLD!

Thank you for posting your thoughts on ST!

I think folks like you: make this blog-site unique and wonderful!
drapnea

Trad climber
SLC, UT
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:18pm PT

The fall of RC over time according to google
Darryl Cramer

Social climber
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:23pm PT
Jim is of course pointing out the need for more Index posts here on ST.
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:53pm PT
drapnea, that graph doesn't mean what you imply it does, and in particular cannot be used to deduce a trend in the traffic at rc.com.

Have a look at http://www.searchenginejournal.com/understanding-google-insights-you-cant-estimate-traffic-with-it/16924/, for example, but the issues described there are not the only problem.

Apologies to klk for being caught out engidorking again.
looks easy from here

climber
Ben Lomond, CA
Aug 15, 2012 - 01:18am PT
Interesting to see this topic come up considering a conversation I had just today.

I have a friend planning a trip to Moab next spring, and I recommended she come here with questions because I've found this site to be generally very helpful and welcoming of new climbers, and I told her specifically to avoid rockclimbing.com because of the disdainful and hostile attitudes towards new climbers that I experienced there.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is, thanks for being awesome, Supertopoians (is that a real word?).
Roughster

Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
Aug 15, 2012 - 01:27am PT
Signal to noise ratio is the holy grail of all websites. RC.com failed to maintain the balance. It got popular BECAUSE of the moderation, plain and simple. Moderators were balancing the signal to noise, were the primary contributors of actual climbing related content, AND the most popular target for attacks, which kept those, and some who are still here and active on this board, coming back.

Once the Moderators who cared were gone, the signal to noise ratio spiraled out of control and those wishing to cause disharmony or had personal vendettas had nothing left to bitch about lost interest and moved on.

/if you are reading this and twinged, yes, I am talking to you...
Guangzhou

Trad climber
Asia, Indonesia, East Java
Aug 15, 2012 - 03:24am PT
"Farouk, dear lad, you might want to jump on some of my first ascents in the Valley....better yet, add some spice and do them with EB's, swami belt and sans cams."



Jim, you forgot to mention rusty old quarter inch bolts.

I'm only guessing, but I doubt the bolts were rusty.

Eman
Gunkie

Trad climber
East Coast US
Aug 15, 2012 - 09:28am PT
rockclimbing.com is where all the Pros hang out unlike Supertopo which is full of n00bs.

That's why I'm here. BTW, does Yosemite have any rock climbing worth a visit?

But I agree with the whole overblown ego thing going on at rc.com from both sides of the fence, moderators and posters. I remember posting a request for information on a route and immediately getting snide remarks with no substance. I had to leave and have never returned.
ddriver

Trad climber
SLC, UT
Aug 15, 2012 - 09:48am PT
I'm thinking Farouk's done pulled all your legs, silly intertards.

This here is why the supertopo beats rc.com any day. They got no humor over there. Its all arguments over which color cordelette works best.
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