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Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 14, 2012 - 10:29am PT
In an effort to offset the serious economic repercussions of the closure of June Mountain, many of us locals are purposing to bring visitors to the area for purposes beyond downhill skiing...June Lake has SO much more to offer.

Flanders and I are wanting to put together a week long Ice Festival....ice climbing, ice skating, skinny skiing, snow-mobiling, etc....

I am looking for input here....your ideas on what YOU would like to see during the week, and also, would like to get a feel for how many would consider coming to this event.

All ideas would be welcome and appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
DR
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Aug 14, 2012 - 10:59am PT
More ice farming! :)


Sounds like a great idea.

I'd be interested.



Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:04am PT
Cragman I think it's a great idea. Please get in touch with me. I would like to help.
rwedgee

Ice climber
canyon country,CA
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:09am PT
Always helps to involve a local micro brewery. Or coffers roaster...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:12am PT
SOund like a great idea Crag. Diversity is needed these days!
Brian

climber
California
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:21am PT
Great idea.

Most of my ideas below are not particularly insightful. I'm just bumping you up the page.

I second the motion for local brewery involvement (Double Nut Brown... mmmm).

I'm of two minds about whether or not to involve gear companies, as it would be kind of cool for it to be a low-key, climber-centric hang. However, my guess is that involving gear companies would likely be an attraction for most other folks, so it's probably better for the success of the event (and the help for the local economy) to try to get companies and reps involved.

You'll need to think about local accommodations, deals, and such for the participant.

Plan a party--aforementioned beer, local band, raffle, and so on--for one night.

Might be nice to plan a "backcountry" skin-up-and-slide-down June Mountain for those interested, to highlight the connection to the closing of June Mountain, the impact on the town, and so on. Even if June stays closed (something I don't really feel like I can influence) the closed June Mountain might remain a draw for backcountry skiers who might visit the town.

Maybe a slideshow? Personally, I'd be keen for some local hardman or hardwoman to give a show on our own amazing Sierra and all it has to offer, rather than a show on Alaska or Patagonia.

Great idea Dean. I hope the town gets it off the launch pad.

Brian
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:27am PT
Not enough lead time to do it really right the first time but it will be good to get it off the ground. Send a representative to the OR show in January to try to get vendor participation from the outdoor industry. The Ouray Ice Festival has 30 + vendors who supply atheletes for clinics, money and demo gear for attendees.
10b4me

Ice climber
dingy room at the Happy boulders hotel
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:52am PT
Good idea.
I think the first thing to do is consistent ice farming. That will get climbers returning to the area.
The ice skating, skinny skiing is a good idea also.
As far as an actual festival, not sure if having vendors there will draw the crowds. Maybe get Dave Talsky involved; and a sideshow of Sierra ice climbing would be good.
I like your thinking, and hope you and Flanders can make it happen.
spyork

Trad climber
Tunneling out of prison
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:55am PT
I would like to try ice climbing.

Plus if you had a good skating area and skates to rent... (speed skates preferably)

Steve
Silver

Gym climber
Aug 14, 2012 - 12:12pm PT
Right on Jim D I look forward to your guest appearance at the.....

First Annual June Lake Ice Festival.

Jim those are great ideas on how to help June Lake get an Ice fest up and running. The haqrdest part is not the idea its learning all the nuances to putting on a great event. It comes with time.




Dean great idea happy to help.

bergbryce

Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Aug 14, 2012 - 12:16pm PT
Add some mixed/drytool lines.
Aren't most of the ice routes at June pretty slabby?

Clinics, a competition, ice tool demos, presentations, good ice, etc. That will help bring folks in.
Some Random Guy

Trad climber
San Francisco
Aug 14, 2012 - 12:24pm PT
I think the first thing to do is consistent ice farming. That will get climbers returning to the area.
hell's yeah!

i've never skied june mountain (or even been on it) but they probably had a snow making set up. could one somehow use that existing plumbing for ice farming?
rocknicenut

climber
Everett, WA
Aug 14, 2012 - 02:50pm PT
What a fantastic itea!

I think we need some photos to help this gain momentum.

Lee Vining ice is nice.
Lee Vining ice is nice.
Credit: rocknicenut

Let's farm up more of this!
Let's farm up more of this!
Credit: rocknicenut
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2012 - 03:41pm PT
Thanks for the input here so far...great stuff!

A couple of points.....

Lee Vining Canyon will be a part of this event...not just the ice here in June Lake.

Also, let's keep the discussion of ice farming off this page.....this scenario will be addressed by Flanders and I with the private entities which own the property where proposed farming may occur.

June Mountain will be CLOSED to any and all traffic, with 24 hour security to keep out poachers. The ski area will continue to do AC to prevent a catastrophe....but no access will be allowed. Of course....that could change.

:)
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2012 - 03:48pm PT
BTW, my thought on timing of this event would be over the course of the President's Holiday week in February.

Thoughts?
Tfish

Trad climber
La Crescenta, CA
Aug 14, 2012 - 03:48pm PT
Sounds like a sick idea. Ouray festival looks fun, but it's so far. It'd be sick to have the same kinda thing closer.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Aug 14, 2012 - 04:35pm PT
Dean....

I would also consider getting in touch with SP and get the dates for the annual Ice Gear week long fest that he heads during that time frame. Combine the two maybe.

Let me know what I can do to assist.
Silver

Gym climber
Aug 14, 2012 - 04:59pm PT
Strength in numbers for sure combining the two events is a great idea.

What I really like is how the locals are not sitting back going woe is me. Dean you guys take the bull by the horns and do whats best for your community.

This could be the begining of the New June Lake.

10b4me

Ice climber
dingy room at the Happy boulders hotel
Aug 14, 2012 - 05:04pm PT

not the best effects
not the best quality
Brian

climber
California
Aug 14, 2012 - 06:15pm PT
Thanks for the information about June.

In the meantime, bump for a CA ice-fest.
The defining move on "Heel Toe": a great heel hook/pull/mantle/rock-ov...
The defining move on "Heel Toe": a great heel hook/pull/mantle/rock-over. One of many good mixed lines in Lee Vining...
Credit: Brian
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2012 - 06:18pm PT
The late Pete Schoerner on The Fang...Lee Vining Canyon

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hossjulia

Social climber
Eastside (of the Tetons)
Aug 14, 2012 - 06:22pm PT
Good luck getting Edison to agree with this.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Aug 14, 2012 - 06:25pm PT
Cool idea but I'd say also try to think of things with more mass appeal than ice climbing to bring the $s in.

I was going to suggest a Film Festival, but it looks like Mammoth already has one, I don't think there'd be enough demand for two so close together.

What about cat skiing at June? I know that's probably a call that the resort officials would make, but it doesn't hurt to push for it. It's probably a lot cheaper to run a cat operation with a dozen guides instead of a mountain full of lifts, lifties, ski patrol, etc.
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2012 - 06:27pm PT
Right now we are focusing on ALL other things, rather than June Mountain.

And Julia, this event absolutely can go on without the Roadside area even being used.....but we will work on it.

:)
TFPU

Sport climber
Idaho
Aug 14, 2012 - 06:42pm PT
Its cool yu guys are organizing this but I can't help but think of that line from the movie Snatch: "Weve got beaches here too (in England)" "Yeah well who the hell wants to see them??"

"Weve got ice in CA"

"Yeah well who the hell wants to climb it???"
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2012 - 07:24pm PT
So, here's the deal....last winter, Flanders and I went up to do the north side of Horsetail Falls, which was in the best nick either of us have EVER seen! Alas, I forgot the camera....and the ice was SPECTACULAR!!!!!!

We decided to go back a few days later and get some shots to bolster Flanders' web site....but then....darn if I could not get the uploader working here on Supertopo....so alas, I never posted these fine shots.

Well, that was probably a good thing, as now they can appear here as just one more primer for the Eastside Ice Festival!!!!!!!!

Again, the cold temps and lack of snow allowed for some of the best ice EVER here in June Lake!

Here is Flanders on the first pitch, approaching a formation we dubbed The Tiara.....you'll see why....

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Flanders at the lip of the Tiara...

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...and up and over....

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As I approached the Tiara, I could see this spectacular cave that had formed underneath it....

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Here is the view of the Tiara formation from above....

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On up to Flanders' belay....

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Looking down on Flanders as I lead the 2nd....

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My own self in the narrows on the 2nd....

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Flanders begins the 3rd, heading for some SPECTACULAR gargoyles of ice....

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My own self coming up through the gargoyles.....

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Nearing the summit....Flanders bullets the blue sky....

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We rapped down alongside the route....

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Flanders below the amazing Tiara formation....

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Make ya wanna come and get some?????????

10b4me

Ice climber
dingy room at the Happy boulders hotel
Aug 14, 2012 - 08:28pm PT
that feature does look pretty cool
Farouk

Boulder climber
Sylvan Grove
Aug 14, 2012 - 08:44pm PT
Low angle Cali ice is sorta ghey dude... got any good stuff out there????????????????????????????
Fish Finder

Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
Aug 14, 2012 - 08:46pm PT





Why not add the arts also .


Hunting the Elephant !
Hunting the Elephant !
Credit: Fish Finder



Edit: yes this post is multi layered with meaning
westhegimp

Social climber
granada hills
Aug 14, 2012 - 09:28pm PT
Dean

Great idea!

Ingrid and I are there!!!!
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 14, 2012 - 10:22pm PT
Good input, ya'll.

There is PLENTY of steep and mixed in LVC....I'll get some pics up here soon!
KitKat

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe
Aug 14, 2012 - 10:40pm PT
I'd come down and ski Mt. Wood!
Some Random Guy

Trad climber
San Francisco
Aug 14, 2012 - 10:58pm PT
There is PLENTY of steep and mixed in LVC
yeah but what about the approach? it's not very festival friendly.......gonna have to install some sort of escalator system from above off the 120 by the bridge....maybe increase the size of those pullouts as well....gonna need the extra parking

no wait even better.....a zip line down to the ice!
GhoulweJ

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:49pm PT
I'll pay to go.
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 15, 2012 - 10:35am PT
Bumping for more great ideas!!!

My own self on thin, steep mixed ground in LVC

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PAUL SOUZA

Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
Aug 15, 2012 - 03:14pm PT
In like Flynn!
PAUL SOUZA

Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
Aug 19, 2012 - 12:03pm PT
Hey Dean,

I know of some people over here in my 'hood who would love to try ice climbing. However, they don't have mountaineering boots and crampons for the vertical nor do they have the cash to blow.

It would be cool if there were vendors that could supply rental gear at a reasonable cost.

Also, when the time comes, send me a PDF of the flyer and I'll post it up at our climbing gym.

Cheers!
phylp

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
Aug 19, 2012 - 12:26pm PT
Hi DR, What a great idea. One of the things that you can do is to have a centralized place for all the information that visitors will need, and that probably means a website at the least.

There are a lot of computer smart people who inhabit the Taco. I'm not one of them but I know that If you wanted to do a website for free you can create a free blog on a blogsite like wordpress, and then have extra pages (also free) containing all the info (pages for event calendar, lodging options, food, contact info, etc). These pages are very easy to create and edit at any time.

How "reliable" is the Lake ice for ice skating? Would you be guaranteed ice skating on some portion of the lake in February?
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2012 - 12:31pm PT
Hi all, an update.....

There is a website being assembled that will feature ALL of the upcoming events being planned for June Lake. We will include the IceFest on that site, and also have daily updates for ice conditions, both horizontal and vertical.

Phylp, ice skating can always be hit or miss, as when we get good ice, often it will snow on top, ending the party. Historically, the best ice skating conditions are in December...our coldest temps and lowest snowfalls that time of year.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Aug 19, 2012 - 12:36pm PT
The shot below was taken two days after Flanders and I did this exact same line on the BH. It was the last climb that Flanders did prior to his event. That evening he had his stroke. Neither I nor my local buddy (pictured below), who is also a very close friend of Flanders, had any idea of what had happened to Flanders. We both found out that afternoon on our return to Mammoth.









Let me know what I can do to help out Dean.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Aug 19, 2012 - 01:12pm PT
The Chief, maybe you could lead some of the mixed climbing clinics. I bet your class would be one of the most popular, along with Steve House's. Personally, would take yours though. (unless they overlap)
iceholdz

Ice climber
sacramento, ca
Aug 19, 2012 - 09:38pm PT
Hey all,
We may be able to help as well. We've attended, sponsored and held our own ice climbing festivals, including the Ouray Ice Festival (CO), Portland Rock Gym Festival (OR), Mt Rainier Festival (WA), Bozeman Ice Festival (MT), Mt Washington Ice Festival (NH) and City Rock Indoor Ice Climbing Comp (CO). We are in the Sacramento valley area and would be an easy drive for us to June Lake.
We manufacture indoor ice climbing holds. Our website is www.iceholdz.com
Granite Arches in Rancho Cordova (Sacramento) has the first 50' indoor ice climbing wall with IceHoldz on it in this state. There is huge potential there for holding an indoor ice climbing festival in UIAA format if there is enough interest. We've got some good reps we've worked with from 5.10, Petzl and Sterling.
Let us know more details.
Thanks,
Terri
Tfish

Trad climber
La Crescenta, CA
Jan 4, 2014 - 09:16pm PT
Any more news for this?!?
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