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Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Aug 21, 2014 - 09:14am PT
I'm not a gun hater, TV, just think the insane arms race is f*#king up our nation.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Aug 21, 2014 - 09:17am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

Gun debate^^ 1800's assualt rifle version, or the 1940s version?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 21, 2014 - 09:41am PT
I'm not a gun hater, TV, just think the insane arms race is f*#king up our nation.

That horse left the barn long ago and got run over trying to get to the
alfalfa field across the highway. Whenever the cops have their much ballyhooed
Turn In Yer Guns For a $50 Target Gift Card I only see guns turned in which
nobody in their right mind would want around. The only way to collect all
the 300+ million guns out there is sending the Army door-to-door and I'm pretty
sure that ain't gonna happen.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Aug 21, 2014 - 09:47am PT
THat rifle on the right is a replica of a 1/2 stock kentucky or Mountain rifle as they were known. The design was pure simplicity with only three moving parts, the hammer, the trigger and the spring. Fired by a percussion cap- the after runner to the flint lock style with a pan for the ignition powder.

Its a Connecticut Valley Arms mountain rifle made in the mid 70s- and is now a highly sought after rifle . Spanish steel barrels that last and will last far into the future. The rifle above has not lost any accuracy in thousands of rounds after four decades. 50 caliber with a 1/66 twist to the rifling designed for a round ball. Has a hair trigger set and shoots a 177 grain ball in .490 diameter with an .010 thick patch.
Sredni Vashtar

Social climber
out in front
Aug 21, 2014 - 09:47am PT
Cant call the M1 carbine an assault rifle Ronald
Ricky

climber
Sometimes LA
Aug 26, 2014 - 12:35pm PT
Sheriff Jim McCabe told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that the [nine year old] girl, who was vacationing from New Jersey with her parents, had safely fired a 9 mm Uzi several times in the “single-shot” mode.

The firearm was put into "fully automatic" mode the next time she fired, McCabe said, with the instructor, identified as Charles Vacca, standing to her left. The weapon recoiled and she lost control of the Uzi while firing an undetermined number of rounds. Vacca suffered at least one gunshot to the head.

"The guy just dropped,” McCabe told the Review-Journal.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/arizona-girl-accidentally-shoots-instructor-in-head
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Aug 26, 2014 - 07:47pm PT
The weapon recoiled and she lost control of the Uzi while firing an undetermined number of rounds. Vacca suffered at least one gunshot to the head.

If only someone trained in the use of firearms had been present, this could have been prevented.
crankster

Trad climber
Aug 26, 2014 - 07:51pm PT
Teaching a 9 year-old to shoot an Uzi. Sorry, but I'm not mourning the guy's death.
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Aug 27, 2014 - 05:04am PT
"If only someone trained in the use of firearms had been present, this could have been prevented."

Presumably he was if he was a veteran.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_c3

"Vacca was married, well-liked and a veteran, KLAS said."

That kid is going to be f*#ked up for the rest of her life I'm guessing because the adults around her are knuckleheads...
I'd blame the parents #1 for even bringing the kid to that place.
WTF were they thinking?

Bullets and Burgers-sheesh

"We separate ourselves from all other Las Vegas ranges with our unique 'Desert Storm' atmosphere and military style bunkers."

WB is right
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Aug 27, 2014 - 07:04am PT
Darwin award for the instructor, tragic for the girl.

It seems many people don't understand that firearms were designed and built with the sole purpose of killing people. They are not toys.

I wonder why the NRA, an organization founded on gun safety instruction, does not take a position opposing these amusement park gun ranges?

TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Aug 27, 2014 - 08:04am PT
Once again, the absurdity of US gun laws is highlighted by this completely preventable tragedy. I'm a felon if I give my son a beer one day before his 21st birthday, but a man is dead and a child is mentally scarred for life because people insist that 9 year olds need to shoot fully automatic weapons. Even as an adult, the first time I fired a fully automatic weapon, it had only a few rounds in the magazine - the instructors weren't morons.

Of course, it was just an accident, who could have predicted that? Kids shoot guns all the time, there are never any problems, right? Those 100 or so kids killed by gun accidents, and thousands injured each year are just the acceptable cost of "freedom"?

Shame too that I missed Madbolter's posts advocating killing a fleeing unarmed human being posing no imminent threat. For all we know the "violent criminal" may have been in anaphylactic shock, couldn't think straight and was frustrated that the lady wouldn't give him her phone to dial 911. I doubt that's true, he probably was just a meth-head scumbag, but that's what courts are supposed to decide, not hot-heads with guns. Guns don't ensure justice, they subvert it.

TE
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Aug 27, 2014 - 08:06am PT
I wonder why the NRA, an organization founded on gun safety instruction, does not take a position opposing these amusement park gun ranges?

Rhetorical question I hope?

TE
Ricky

climber
Sometimes LA
Aug 27, 2014 - 08:53am PT

And of course there's video...


Norton

Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
Aug 27, 2014 - 09:04am PT
I'd blame the parents #1 for even bringing the kid to that place.
WTF were they thinking?

yes!

the parents were "thinking" just how terribly important it is that their children be able to
defend themselves from robbers and muggers, and stuff

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 27, 2014 - 10:45am PT
That dude was in the military? He must have done KP his whole time.
Stevie Wonder could have seen that coming.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Aug 27, 2014 - 11:26am PT
The U.S. Military doesn't field sub-machine guns. His service experience didn't apply here.

Maybe Israeli or European military service would have helped.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Aug 27, 2014 - 12:47pm PT
There are so many things wrong with the 9 year old video it is hard to know where to start. I can't even imagine why her parents thought that was good idea, and who the hell would agree to go along with it?

People treating deadly weapons like toys.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Aug 27, 2014 - 01:24pm PT
Why is Arizona gun-nut central?

DMT
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Aug 27, 2014 - 01:38pm PT
That is so Darwin!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Aug 27, 2014 - 01:44pm PT
Yes that wasnt a good idea, but that didnt happen to the 2 million others at gun ranges that day so we should keep that perspective. And there are dumb people in every crowd,, climbers most definitely included.
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