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locker

climber
STFU n00b!!!
Apr 12, 2015 - 01:57pm PT


We AMERICANS know how to shoot that's for sure...

LOL!!!...

Stewart

Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
Apr 12, 2015 - 02:04pm PT
Jim: Please take the trouble to note that I start off civil & attempt to keep it civil when responded to in kind.

RON ANDERSON and anyone else who is interested in my comment about Ronnie's suggestion that we massacre 300 million + Muslims: Please check out the entire thread dated 0ct. 22, 2014 and titled "The Ottawa Shootings". It's not an extremely long one, so please read these comments with an analytical eye. Now does it appear that one of Ron's postings may have, uh, disappeared?

Judge for yourselves.

By the way, Toker villain - what profound insights did I miss by not checking out that thread? Are these facts relevant to this thread like the ones posted on the American Bar Association's web site, which I would assume are accurate enough to be considered legally admissible in any argument pertaining to the gun debate?

Edit:

Toker villain - as a matter of fact I had checked out the Surviving a Bear Encounter thread, which included video of a black bear's bluff charge.
I assumed that was what you were referring to. Now, again, what is your point?
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Apr 12, 2015 - 02:11pm PT
I liked the hot casing down the cleavage clip.
Hey that scope is gonna put yer eye out!

Carry on......................
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 12, 2015 - 03:19pm PT
My point, Stewie, is that you haven't got a clue. The point of the thread was to note that the police in this country have been so steeped in the polarizing culture of us versus them that it has been resulting in so many police abuse incidents that, should we not alter the course, then we could slip into a totalitarian state.

One of the first things Hitler did when he took power was to disarm the citizenry. Yeah sure, it could never happen here. (I bet a lot of germans said that too.)

In Europe the paranoid jews went to New York (like my grandfather in 1939) the ones who weren't paranoid went to the camps (like some of my other relatives).

I am planning to live on hundreds of acres with a few survivor types and great self sufficiency. Our guns will be business assets, and you already know what you'll have to do with my cold dead finger.

Once again I thank providence that you can't vote here, but feel free to sputter on,...
Flip Flop

climber
salad bowl, california
Apr 12, 2015 - 03:47pm PT
Toker said Hitler. As per Reductio ad Hitlerum (see Godwin's Law) Toker Villain is the Loser. You Lose. GoodDay, Sir!


Nothing sounds more homo than Tokers Survival Camp. Super Ghey !
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 12, 2015 - 04:04pm PT
You think that it is so far reaching? Americans are idiots who can easily be guiled into voting for a "law and order" President who promises prosperity as a result. That is, those that DO vote, because most don't (and in my book have no right to grouse).


And screw you flip flop! Even if you misspell words you are a bigot. Did you read where my family members were killed? Cousins I never had?
I can easily trump Godwins law with Santayana;


"Those that ignore the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it's mistakes"


Go back under your bridge you maladjusted weasel.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 12, 2015 - 04:04pm PT
WBraun

climber
Apr 12, 2015 - 04:19pm PT
In 1935, China established gun control. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents were unable to defend themselves and were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1970, Uganda, under brutal dictator Idi Amin, established gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1956, Cambodia established gun control. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control under one of the bloodiest despots in modern history, Joseph Stalin.
From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

American crankloon nutcases are stooopid .....
Stewart

Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
Apr 12, 2015 - 04:36pm PT
Toker villain: Sorry to hear about the loss of your relatives in the Holocaust.

That said, I can assure you that I (and most Canadians) haven't the least trouble keeping up to date on events in the U.S., and we also have a few of the same problems up here.

As Churchill said "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all of the others", I am in complete agreement with him. These are troubled times pretty well everywhere, and the only way that I can see for things to get better, especially in the U.S., is for those that DO vote to do everything within their power to not only get their disaffected brethern out to perform their democratic duties but also to make every possible effort to make sure that their choice of a candidate is carefully considered.

It is the duty of all citizens of a Democracy to do no less than the above.

Having said that, I think it is a terrible idea for you to think that forming some kind of libertarian Eden is the solution to the problem of a dealing with trigger happy cops. Here's the inevitable outcome of that kind of attitude spreading: total anarchy, and the slaughter of uncounted innocents. Do you sincerely believe that a more heavily armed group of others with a different set of beliefs would hesitate to annihilate you and your friends if they had the least interest in acquiring your assets?

Really.

Democracy is sick, but it can be cured if the true patriots do everything within their power to cure it.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 12, 2015 - 04:47pm PT
a more heavily armed group of others


BWAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!~!!!!!

Hey Stewie , now I like you.

You are funny AND a Churchill fan!
How many bios of him have you read?
You do realize that he defended himself with a broomhandle Mauser, killing at least 3 men in close quarter battle?
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 12, 2015 - 04:53pm PT
I think it is a terrible idea for you to think that forming some kind of libertarian Eden is the solution to the problem of a dealing with trigger happy cops.

Here's where you go off to the vanishing point on your Marxist rails.

Libertarian, really classical liberal philosophy, is grounded in the reality of the unperfectability of human nature and the fact that concentration of power ALWAYS! leads to it's abuse.


There is no "libertarian Eden"

Only "progressives" believe they can force everyone back into the garden. It always fails no mater how many they eventually exterminate to achieve their "noble" ends.
locker

climber
STFU n00b!!!
Apr 12, 2015 - 04:56pm PT


Here we go again...

LOL!!!...

"Reductio ad Hitlerum"...
locker

climber
STFU n00b!!!
Apr 12, 2015 - 05:11pm PT


Oh fuking no!!!...

It's a full blown "Double up"...

LOL!!!...



Troll Weiner and Crankloon together again...

Stewart

Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
Apr 12, 2015 - 05:23pm PT
Werner: None of those nations were democracies. Canada has gun control, and we've got piles of guns up here.

TGT: Who the hell told you I'm a Marxist? Do you think I'm dumb enough to think that all libertarians are starry-eyed idealists?

Toker villain: and peace be to you. At the end we're all human beings, and we only pass through this way once. This is important.

And, yeah - I'm a Churchill fan. He could be a total pain in the ass at times, but in my opinion he was the one guy most responsible for saving Western civilization.

WBraun

climber
Apr 12, 2015 - 05:23pm PT
The little paranoid twink thinks the Nevada rifleman is going to kill him.

That's why he's so paranoid and hiding in his broom closet all the time.

The Nevada rifleman is just down the street form the goon loon .....
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 12, 2015 - 05:35pm PT
Yeah Stewart, and Truman, and in a way (ironically) Mao.



Werner WTF are you going on about? Nevada rifleman? Do you mean Bundy?
I appreciate your examples. Yes the Armenians experienced truly horrible genocide.


And locker, maybe you ought to bow out of this one.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Apr 12, 2015 - 05:40pm PT
I am planning to live on hundreds of acres with a few survivor types and great self sufficiency.

That sort of situation is so pathetically easy to deal from a force perspective that any government intent on you not doing that wouldn't think twice about your guns when they moved in to deal with you. And doing it in the desert? Even more silly. One Predator strike with a single Apache mop up and any survivors would be delivered up instantly. Even if they wanted to take a lower key approach - just how self-sufficient do you think you can be? A month? A year? Again, fantasy and delusion.

In a suburban or urban setting they'd just turn off food, water, electric, and gas (and McDonalds) and wait three days.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 12, 2015 - 06:08pm PT
Well Joe, I abandon you to wail all is lost, but I live in Utah among people most of whom already have a year's worth of food.

I'm using ICF construction, and will be water independent and largely energy independent as well.
See ya, wouldn't want to be ya.




Predator strike? Sheesh!
WBraun

climber
Apr 12, 2015 - 06:10pm PT
One Predator strike with a single Apache mop up and any survivors would be delivered up instantly.


The real patriots can move faster than the speed of light.

The real patriots can never be touched by any mundane govt.

No bullets can touch them.

One Predator and single Apache are no match for the real patriots.

The real patriot warrior can neutralize the entire United States Military instantly if so desired.

The mundane gross materialists have no clue on true real warfare.

The true real patriot warrior can manipulate the subtle material energies instantly against the inferior gross material energies.

YOU WILL FAIL and it's guaranteed .....

healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Apr 12, 2015 - 06:23pm PT
Predator strike? Sheesh!

You think they're going to bother going face-to-face with armed compounds? I wouldn't waste the manpower or time - why bother? If I were feeling magnanimous I might lob a Hellfire on a lot next door and ask you once to desist and stand down, but after that all bets would be off. And if we were actually in a that kind of political climate do you think anyone would give a rip what happened to a few holdouts in the desert?

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