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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Mar 21, 2015 - 08:48am PT
The government created the internet. It was a DOD project.

DMT
perswig

climber
Mar 21, 2015 - 11:48am PT
Whoa, whoa, whoa!




Democrats can have guns?

Dale
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Mar 21, 2015 - 06:01pm PT
Democrats can have guns?

They CAN, and some do! However, when they sign up as Democrats, one of the things they agree to is to limit themselves to one gun per household, kept locked in a gun safe at all times, and limited to a single-shot, .177 pellet gun that must be pumped 7 times to achieve no more than 500fps.

Pretty hard to engage in mass shootings with such a weapon. Who could need more for any reason?

Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Canada
Mar 21, 2015 - 06:08pm PT
Richard's in the house !
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Mar 21, 2015 - 06:13pm PT
I am an independant who votes mostly democrat. as much as i want my gun rights I feel it is also critical to have decent health care and not try to turn our country into a 3rd world shithole. i seriously wish the repugs were not such as#@&%es so that i could vote for my gun rights and get decent health care, modern infastructure, fully funded fire and police etc.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Mar 21, 2015 - 09:38pm PT
I want to throw out a "gun-culture" question to the right people on this thread.

I grew up in Idaho "gun-culture", own a number of firearms, and I am ok with concepts of when I can legally employ them.

Heidi & I had dinner tonight with non-gun friends who are dog owners. During a recent hike on public land, they had five dogs from a nearby landowner attack their dog. With some difficulty, and at major personal risk, they saved their dog from serious injury.

The husband tonight asserted that he wants to buy a firearm, and will shoot dogs that attack his dogs in the future.

I didn't want to take our after-dinner conversation down a notch, but in Idaho, I suspect if you shoot an aggressive dog in front of their armed owner, you are starting a gunfight?

Ok? The question is??

Should you shoot the armed aggressive dog-owner first, or wait for them to draw on you, after shooting his dogs and starting the gunfight?

Part II? If there are other people in the aggressive dog-owners party, should you shoot them all? Is this best done, before or after shooting the aggressive dogs?

Thanks for your thoughts!
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Mar 21, 2015 - 09:39pm PT
"Democrats can have guns?"

Come on over and find out!
moosedrool

climber
Andrzej Citkowicz far away from Poland
Mar 21, 2015 - 09:48pm PT
Should you shoot the armed aggressive dog-owner first, or wait for them to draw on you, after shooting his dogs and starting the gunfight?

Part II? If there are other people in the aggressive dog-owners party, should you shoot them all? Is this best done, before or after shooting the aggressive dogs?

That's easy! AK-47 will solve all your problems.

Joking aside, well done, Fritz!

Moose
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Canada
Mar 21, 2015 - 09:51pm PT
Fritz,

We used to visit relatives on South Pender Island in the formerly known Gulf of Georgia. (now replaced by the feel good, Salish Sea)

Sheba was an awesome kid's dog who loved to be free and have fun and never bit any chicken. She was shot dead by the hobby farm rich prick next fence over, for the bullshit reason of trespass on farm land. The only thing the nieghbors ever grew on their "farmland" were hangovers.

F*#k you, redneck rich pricks.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 21, 2015 - 10:32pm PT
Fritz,

Is Idaho infested with lunatics, or something? Why would you worry about something so far-fetched?

Even here in San Bernardino - where people have been shot for wearing the wrong color shirt - shooting an out-of-control dog who's attacking another dog is not socially unacceptable. It's not something you'll get shot yourself for doing.

Unless you're wearing the wrong colored shirt.

Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Canada
Mar 21, 2015 - 10:50pm PT
^^^^^
HAHAHAHAHA !

Dogs are lovable but a long way from being humans !
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Mar 21, 2015 - 11:02pm PT
if democrats can have guns why shouldn't dogs?

arff!

edit; that didn't come out quite right. what i meant was, i trust more dogs judgement than i do peoples
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Canada
Mar 21, 2015 - 11:30pm PT
Thanks for the clarification, Ron.

Sheba was an Irish Setter who wouldn't hurt a fly.

madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Mar 22, 2015 - 01:06am PT
IT musta runn- oft honey!

One of my favorite lines from any movie. :-)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 22, 2015 - 08:39am PT
I trust more dogs judgement than i do peoples

Fear not, Blueblocr, many of my favorite dogs have also been frustrated by the subtleties of
English to express themselves succinctly.
johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Mar 22, 2015 - 10:28am PT
The club banned wire hairs right after that.

They should have banned the owner instead.

There's a lot of people that shouldn't own dogs.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Mar 22, 2015 - 02:45pm PT
Chaz: Re your thoughts on my question.
Is Idaho infested with lunatics, or something? Why would you worry about something so far-fetched?

I will admit to having fun with the question, but I also find it normal in rural western America to believe that everyone is armed and dangerous.

This story, from about 30 years ago, illustrates the situation in rural Idaho & Nevada. It made Idaho headlines at the time as a "feel-good" story since all the shooters, but the felon were Idaho residents.

Mid 1980’s, just south of the Idaho-Nevada State line on Highway 93, there was a minor car accident.
A California driver scraped another car that was turning into a rest area at Salmon Falls Creek.
Both cars stopped, as several dozen people at the rest area: gawked at the “fender bender.”
Although the accident was 60 miles from the nearest Nevada town, an Elko County Deputy Sheriff, was nearby.
The Deputy drove up to the scene, and thinking it was a “fender bender” approached the scene in a “non-threatening” manner.
The California driver shot him in the head.
At that point, the California driver, noticed all the nearby witnesses.
He walked towards them shooting.
Numerous people grabbed weapons from their vehicles and returned fire.

The Californian was killed and no-one at the rest stop was injured.
It turned out that the Californian had “gone insane,” killed his wife and fled north from L.A.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 22, 2015 - 03:09pm PT
I have no doubt everybody in Idaho is armed - but Idaho's nowhere near dangerous.

San Bernardino ( CA ) averages twice as many murders each year as does the whole state of Idaho, despite having only one-fifth of Idaho's population.

Simple math tells you the armed people of Idaho are at best only one-tenth as dangerous as the people here in San Bernardino.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Mar 22, 2015 - 09:15pm PT
Chaz: Indeed! Simple math does tell you that parts of California are more dangerous than rural Idaho or Nevada. I agree!

Figures never lie, but ----------!
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Mar 22, 2015 - 09:38pm PT
Speaking of "teeth-clinching" "feel-good" "make you paranoid" movies!

I watched all of RED DAWN for the first time in about 15 years tonight.

What a great paranoia-inducing movie! It does make you want to buy guns and fight them commies, untill you get gloriously shot-down.

All kidding aside. It is a significant movie, and I'm sure it has been a major influence on American gun ownership.

OH! My rural Idaho high school mascot was a Wolverine.
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