The Gun debate sandbox

Search
Go

Discussion Topic

Return to Forum List
Post a Reply
Messages 5081 - 5100 of total 6519 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
coz

Gym climber
Belmont
Apr 8, 2013 - 09:44pm PT
Well Wes we agree on something, that is nuts.

I can't get my head around why anyone wouldn't want back ground checks and mandatory training.

Hell you should have skill and training to own a GriGri.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Apr 8, 2013 - 09:50pm PT
Who's this Wes guy??

Hey Coz, good posts, Keep up the good work!
Are we for more guns, or less?
What's the word from the street...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2013 - 10:11pm PT
In that case I disagree. I hate that Wes guy... total pussy.
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Apr 8, 2013 - 10:55pm PT
That is fuk'd up. How could ANYONE NOT want to work like hell to get that changed?

According to our wonderful Governor, because "no additional restrictions on the rights of law abiding citizens can stop violent predators intent on committing crime."

From the same Governor who happily signed a bill requiring photo ID in order to vote, clearly shows the complete hypocrisy of the current Republican party. When challenged in court, the state could not find a single verified instance of in-person voter fraud ever, yet found it appropriate to restrict everyone's right to vote.

It took a dead police officer for the same Governor to enact a law to impose meaningful punishment on straw purchasers. I dread to think what it would take for him to even consider universal background checks.

On a bright note, 18 months until they find out that Democracy means NOT needing guns to overthrow the government.

TE


Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Apr 8, 2013 - 11:01pm PT
On a bright note, 18 months until they find out that Democracy means NOT needing guns to overthrow the government.
TE

Now that is something I will vote for
GhoulweJ

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Apr 8, 2013 - 11:07pm PT
Just courious, those of who are "anti gun":

How many of you have been showm how to properly handle a gun and have also shot more than 200 rounds of ammo?

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2013 - 11:48pm PT
For the curious, I've been shooting since as early as I can remember. Must have been 5 or so.

Just curious, for those of you who are anti-abortion, how many have you had?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 8, 2013 - 11:51pm PT
who cares
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 8, 2013 - 11:53pm PT
GhoulweJ

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Apr 9, 2013 - 12:00am PT
Wow
You guys seem pretty snippy.

I was just wondering because its been my experience that once people are educated about handling a firearm and get some rounds down range, they become less concerned about them.

You guys can continue yelling at one another. I'm going to continue with my climbing plans.

Cheers
DickMcfartin

Ice climber
soewhere over the rainbow....
Apr 9, 2013 - 12:14am PT
Simple in depth background checks would be a great start. And i mean in depth background checks not some B.S. check full of loopholes. If you or anyone else in your home has any kind of questionable background of "any sort" the answer should be no gun for you plain and fing simple.

If you move or someone moves in with you the proper authorities should have to be notified prior and background checks run on that person. In the case they are not notified mandatory minimum sentences should be instituted plain and simple.

It is pretty simple. In this day and age 2nd amendment as it is we should be well beyond passing laws requiring intensive first party background checks. There should be no second party anything related to guns plain and freaking simple. And proper background checks shoulda been well in place a long long time ago!!

jghedge

climber
Apr 9, 2013 - 12:16am PT

Good to see this issue getting the attention it deserves

But funny how the experience of other countries isn't part of the discussion, when they offer the most relevant real-world examples of what should be done, and how it would work.

Probably because including countries that have outlawed guns in the discussion would suggest we need to outlaw them too...and nobody wants to go there

Yet

Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Apr 9, 2013 - 12:29am PT
How many of you have been showm how to properly handle a gun and have also shot more than 200 rounds of ammo?

Many of us are military veterans. And few of us are completely "anti-gun." I started hunting at the age of twelve.

I've handled more firepower than any of the pro-gun folks on this thread - more than the ones who hoard ammo in their basement, thinking they can overthrow the military by applying their plinking experience.

Gotta admit, it would be kinda fun to watch them try...
thebird

Big Wall climber
palm desert, ca.
Apr 9, 2013 - 12:39am PT
Guns are not the problem, I wish it was so simple but its not. Its said that by using common sence we should change our constitution's 2nd amendment, which if I recall says "The right to bear arms shall no be infringed". "Common sence is those prejudices learned before the age of eighteen": Albert Einstien. The 2nd amendment is written as is for three reasons: 1) For securing food. 2)protection of self, family and property. 3)to enable the citizery to rise up against a dictatorial government.
Why are the Democrats so bent on changing the constitution by distorting the meaning of the words and therefore the interpertation of this document. If you live in California, just try to buy ammunition for a gun.
Its not easy because the government has bought most of the ammunition with our money.
An ignorrant people can never be a free people. Surely unless a free people are educated---taught to think intelligently and plan wisely---freedom does more harm than good! I am not politicly affilliated.
jghedge

climber
Apr 9, 2013 - 12:48am PT
Uh oh

We're in trouble now

Another Einstein-ism:

“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.”
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 9, 2013 - 01:21am PT
Yea GhoulweJ, I was kind of snappy. You didn't deserve that. Sorry, I just hate the "anti gun" label. I enjoy shooting my guns, but not everyone should be able to walk into a gun store an buy a killing machine as long as they are not a felon. I would be very upset if anyone I was close to had to get an abortion, but I think EVERY WOMAN has the right to get one if they decide it is the right choice.



BTW, my common sense says there is no 'c' in sense. Furthermore, without changing ANY DEFINITIONS IN ANY WAY, tighter regulations on firearm SALES does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to infringe on anyone's right to keep and bare them.
jghedge

climber
Apr 9, 2013 - 01:42am PT

Scientists Discover Psychological Basis For Gun Fetishism

http://healthland.time.com/2013/04/08/size-does-matter-study-shows-women-judge-male-attractiveness-by-penis-size/

hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 9, 2013 - 01:52am PT
"I enjoy shooting my guns, but not everyone should be able to walk into a gun store an buy a [gun] as long as they are not a felon. I would be very upset if anyone I was close to had to get an abortion, but I think EVERY WOMAN has the right to get one if they decide it is the right choice."

+1

Don't call me an obamanut either please. But that's a different thread, and for the record, I think just about all politicians are shyte.

And don't forget, there's plenty of people who consider abortion murder, so there's another spin-off debate... murder by gun vs murder by abortion? Which do we outlaw first?
Dems are pro-choice. Cons are pro-gun. Someone out there thinks both are murder. Someone else thinks you ought to have a right to both.
Whatever. At some point when we chip away at enough personal choices, we leave freedom behind us.



Make everyone pass a background, increase the mental health reporting, then let people buy whatever the hell kind they want (they passed the background, right?).

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................................
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 9, 2013 - 01:58am PT
Maybe women who are felons should be barred from having abortions. It's not like a felon should expect to enjoy the same rights regular people do.
coz

Gym climber
Belmont
Apr 9, 2013 - 02:10am PT
Are women firing dead fetuses out of their vagina's now, as a self defense tool?

What ru guys talking about...

What's wrong with criminals not owning guns, and people who own guns being required to know how to use them?

Please enlighten me, I'm all ears... Really...
Messages 5081 - 5100 of total 6519 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
Return to Forum List
Post a Reply
 
Our Guidebooks
Check 'em out!
SuperTopo Guidebooks


Try a free sample topo!

 
SuperTopo on the Web

Review Categories
Recent Route Beta
Recent Gear Reviews