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crankster

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:18pm PT
2 more dead in Oregon school shooting - thanks NRA!

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HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:21pm PT
only 2 dead, including himself, this time?
What a loser
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:22pm PT
You guys sure are a bunch of alarmists. Fox News says it ain't so bad:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/02/17/bloomberg-latest-stats-on-school-gun-violence-ignore-reality/
Are schools and colleges dangerous places, with lots of gun violence?

Some groups paint a picture of these places being particularly unsafe. Supposedly both murders and firearm suicides are very common at educational institutions. Last Wednesday, former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s two groups, Moms Demand Gun Sense in America and Mayors Against Illegal Guns, jointly released a report that received massive uncritical news coverage.

They claimed that 44 shootings occurred in schools and colleges nationwide since the Newtown, Conn. massacre on Dec. 14, 2012 and Feb. 10 of this year. Out of the 44 shootings, a total of 28 died. To dramatize their numbers, Bloomberg’s groups emphasized that one of these attacks occurred every 10 days.

But their statistics are not what they seem. Included in the numbers are suicides. Also included are late night shootings taking place in school parking lots, on their grounds or even off school property, often involving gangs. As “shootings,” they also include any incident where shots were fired, even when nobody was injured.
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Also, some perspective is needed. Contrary to what many people believe, high school shootings have actually been falling over the last two decades. To illustrate this let’s compare the five school years 1992-93 to 1996-97 with the five school years from 2008-09 to 2012-13. During the first period, the number of non-gang, non-suicide shooting deaths averaged 25 a year. During the recent five-year period, it averaged less than half that, 10 per year – and that figure does include the horrific Newtown massacre.

What a relief! I feel much better about all this!
paul roehl

Boulder climber
california
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:30pm PT
Is there any type or kind of weapon or arm that a citizen should be prohibited from owning?

If you feel there is such a weapon tell me how the outlawing of said weapon in not a violation of the second amendment.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:34pm PT
Credit: HighTraverse
excluding summer vacations, more than 1 school shooting per week since Newtown
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:34pm PT
"What a relief! I feel much better about all this!"

No doubt. I'm sure the parents of the Reynolds HS kid are breathing huge sighs of relief.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:36pm PT
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State
When the gun owner signs up for a well regulated militia
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:38pm PT
Is there any type or kind of weapon or arm that a citizen should be prohibited from owning?



These are prohibited. If the Founding Fathers did not want us to have fission weapons, they would have prohibited them in the Constitution. But they didn't!
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:59pm PT
It's funny how quiet the gun-nutz get every time there's another school shooting.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jun 10, 2014 - 04:59pm PT
Pretty telling that in Oregon when they searched the students they found another kid with a gun unrelated.

Its the culture mot the gun, but parents need to gun proof their kids every bit as much as they need to kid proof their guns.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jun 10, 2014 - 06:20pm PT
a few weeks ago,, "Jack in the box" fast food diners announced they would no longer allow carry guns in their chain stores. Since then they have been robbed four times. Since the schools are noted to be gun free zones, and the whackos continue to go to those schools to basically commit suicide after taking others out, when will you all figure out they need armed guards at schools? Your children arent getting the same protection your money does at the bank.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 06:51pm PT
I'm pretty sure Thomas Jefferson on his death bed said "I only wish I would live long enough to hold a .3006 to protect are freedoms" and then expired.


Ron posted
Since then they have been robbed four times.

Um...how many times were they robbed before then? And how many times were robberies stopped by people with guns? You kind of suck at statistics, dude. My hospital has banned guns and it's never been robbed and nobody has ever been shot. Boosh. Logical fallacy obliterated.

Also, what about all the Jack in the Boxes that HAVEN'T been robbed? By your "what about all the guns that HAVEN'T killed people" argument this is airtight logic. Right along with "what about all the American soldiers the Taliban HAVEN'T killed" and "what about all the cigarettes that children HAVEN'T smoked." Man I'm on a tear.
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 06:55pm PT
Jack in the box" fast food diners announced they would no longer allow carry guns in their chain stores. Since then they have been robbed four times.

Says World Net Daily.
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HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 06:58pm PT
No you see I don't believe the liberal media I just immediately believe whatever PatDollard.com says which means I'm a good critical thinker.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jun 10, 2014 - 07:06pm PT
Well there was a shooting at renown med center in reno a couple of months back,--whooooosh goes your theory and anecdote. And obviously YOU ALL think your money deserves better protection than your kids. IDIOTS...
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 10, 2014 - 07:09pm PT
It's funny how quiet the gun-nutz get every time there's another school shooting.

What should be said? People get shot in Chicago with illegal guns and murdered everyday with things other than firearms. I think you're trying to politicize a problem for something other than what it really is.

That is, a mental health and drug problem. Even that whack-job in Nevada who murdered the 2 cops was turned away from Bundy-ranch supporters. Dude was a tweaker.

And he was eventually stopped by a conceal-carry private citizen. Funny that your types never mention that, huh?
Bushman

Social climber
Elk Grove, CA
Jun 10, 2014 - 07:11pm PT
Attention all gun advocates!!

A conventional firearm will work in space. Gunpowder contains its own oxidizer, so it would ignite and the gases would function as they do here on earth. It's the same as a solid-fuel rocket which we know works in space.

In terms of ambient temperature, space is essentially a vacuum, which is a poor conductor, so radiant heat is the cooling process and it's fairly slow (one of the problems faced by astronauts is the need to get rid of body heat). If an astronaut were to bring a firearm from the shuttle or other environment where the weapon was at a normal operating temperature, or if the astronaut was in sunlight, the firearm would work just as well as it would on earth, maybe even better. You would have to be far out in space, away from the Sun and allow the weapon to cool over a period of time before it might fail to operate because of freezing.

The former Soviet Union actually equipped the Salyut 3 space station with an Nudelman-Rikhter aircraft automatic cannon. According to cosmonauts, the gun worked quite well.

So if you luv yer guns, cuz I know you do, go play cowboy in earth orbit. And leave all the oxygen here for us peaceniks.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 10, 2014 - 07:38pm PT
Rong and bluerong have a good point.

Guns are more important than children.

The cleti speak.

Do we really need to do this with the abortion crowd putting their "choices" above the lives of children? Really?

You f*#king people simply use children as political tools. You don't really give a f*#k about other people's children.

Innocent unborn babies are simply tools to you and your ilk. Children are only worthy of concern when they're an excuse to seize weapons from honest, innocent citizens.

You're pathetic, and you willingly ignore the real problem to advance your political agenda.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 07:40pm PT
Ron said
Well there was a shooting at renown med center in reno a couple of months back,--whooooosh goes your theory and anecdote.

But you're forgetting about all the medical centers where there WEREN'T shootings. Blammo. #RonLogic #HashtagsAreCool #WhatTheKidsAreDoingTheseDays
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 07:40pm PT
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