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dirtbag

climber
Jun 5, 2014 - 06:27pm PT
Utter, intellectually lazy, bullsh#t, from the master.^^^^^^^

Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 5, 2014 - 06:28pm PT
Ron, is the proliferation of weapons part of that experiment?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jun 5, 2014 - 06:57pm PT
I was raised with guns Gary. Knew very well their consequences from misuse because i was taught at an early age. I wasnt left to myself to figure that out. EVERYONE i knew and hung out with through childhood was the same , an NONE of us ever took a gun to school besides to hunt birds after class let out, which we did frequently back then.. At Carson high it was COMMON PLACE to see shot guns and rifles in the gun racks of pick up trucks driven there by students. Dont seek to blame guns, your on the wrong track.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 5, 2014 - 07:05pm PT
I grew up with guns, also, Ron. I had a Savage .22 bolt action single shot as a kid.

I'll ask the question again, do you think the proliferation of weapons might be part of that experiment you wrote about?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jun 5, 2014 - 07:22pm PT
No i dont Gary.. In fact the proliferation of weapons - some 20 million new gun owners in just the last couple of years has actually led to a DECREASE in violent crimes over all. And has been doing so since the nineties..Those are NOT anecdotal facts but pure statistics. The occurrence of violent crimes has gone down while gun ownership has soared. It is for the most, school aged kids and young adults now committing these school shootings- those that were raised by boomers and gen x-ers. As much as kids now are of the instant gratification generation, so are the parents. Little jimmy acts out in class, call it ADD and give him ridlen. Little jimmy is depressed, give him mind drugs. There was NO SUCH THING as ADD when we grew up- as we had that cured by a principles paddle.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jun 5, 2014 - 08:09pm PT
I remember absolutely hating school... Couldn't stand it. But we didn't shoot the place up since we knew that would be suicidal and random murder wasn't high on the list. We had access to far more firepower then as kids. I had a friend who's dad collected machineguns. Real ones. Guns were often on the wall or in glass cabinets on display. Every vehicle in town had a firearm or two inside.

Families were broken then too. Parent's drank and beat their kids with no fear of DCYS then.

But there were no random killing rampages, at least nothing that made the news perhaps. Sure there were targeted murders but not this random insanity.

The only big difference I see is these drugs being pumped into people now for the simplest things. Therapy is hard, takes a long time, and is expensive. Pills are cheap, plentiful, and can have deadly behavioral side effects. So bad in fact, that they print the warnings on the black-box labels.

Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 5, 2014 - 08:57pm PT
has actually led to a DECREASE in violent crimes over all.

Ron,

This doesn't seem to back you up:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2012/12/sandy_hook_a_chart_of_all_196_fatal_school_shootings_since_1980_map.html

Nor does this:
http://www.jointhefuture.org/694-us-school-shootings-data-1979-2011

Nor does this:
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/charts-half-the-deadliest-shootings-u

Then there's this:


Is there an issue here, do you think, or is this just normal and to be expected?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jun 5, 2014 - 09:05pm PT
Uhh Gary,, 1982 to 2012 INDEED backs up what ive said above. Boomers and Gen x kids.... And go look at violent crime OVER ALL.
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 5, 2014 - 09:07pm PT
Is rather live next to the 5 Taliban released than live next to Ron. I'm sure they have less weapons.

All this NRA propaganda is sickening.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jun 5, 2014 - 09:08pm PT
Id rather you live next to those SOBS too,, please feel free to move there.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jun 5, 2014 - 09:14pm PT
two pussyassed internet Wanker stalkers..^^^^^^ why dont you both go snort crank till whats left of your brains dissolve completely.








SHOULDN'T take long.
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 5, 2014 - 09:35pm PT
Hospital gown or orange jumps, Rifleman Ron of the Oaf Keepers Militia, just a matter of time.
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Jun 5, 2014 - 10:31pm PT
Every time some f*#king idiot does something wrong with a gun i cringe a little and get really pissed, because the rest of us get the bloody finger pointed at us while being scolded as if we are somehow complacent and/or responsible for that small minority of once-legal owners who cant keep their sh#t straight, along with the criminals who never gave a sh#t about the legality of it from the start. Well f*#k them. And f*#k this guy too. And f*#k those who think i belong with that crowd simply for owning a gun. What a bunch of as#@&%es.

http://www.ktvn.com/story/25697156/safe-shot-manager-indicted-by-federal-grand-jury
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:11am PT
Every time some f*#king idiot does something wrong with a gun i cringe a little and get really pissed, because the rest of us get the bloody finger pointed at us while being scolded as if we are somehow complacent and/or responsible for that small minority of once-legal owners who cant keep their sh#t straight, along with the criminals who never gave a sh#t about the legality of it from the start.

If you believe criminals and the mentally ill should continue have easy access to guns, you deserve to have that finger pointed at you. If you don't, please call your congressman, senator, state representatives and NRA rep and ask them to represent your views, not the views of an industry that has a business need for criminals and mentally ill to easily have guns.

TE
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:23am PT
NOT ONE person, company, or manufacturer in the industry WANTS criminals and mentally ill to have a gun,, NOT ONE. What in idiotic statement.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:27am PT
NOT ONE person, company, or manufacturer in the industry WANTS criminals and mentally ill to have a gun,

I don't believe that. There is at least one person, company or manufacturer that will sell guns to criminals and the mentally ill. In fact there is definitely more than one.

DMT
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:29am PT
Criminals? Legal gun owners want criminals to have guns? Wow.

Oh, i get it. You mean the folks who object to widening background checks...

Here,s a helpful hint: get your idiot politicians to bring that kind of legislation to the table without all the other attachments like mag restrictions, ammo taxes, volume limits etc. Then maybe it will pass.

There are a lot of idiot people with guns. We could use less of that. I dont want mentally ill people or criminals to have guns.
But jesus, every time it comes up n a ballot or something the anti-gun crowd goes so far over the line they doom their own chance of success. Blind mother f*#kers, like the rest of politics.
Idiots all around.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:29am PT
PROVE THAT,Dingus, if you will...Id love to see that.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:30am PT
No you prove it. I really don't care. But someone is selling guns to criminals and the mentally ill and it ain't me.

DMT
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Jun 6, 2014 - 07:32am PT
Read the paper Ron. Dingus is right, there are a limited few. Thats why the anti-gun crowd wants to lock it down for everyone. Thats why you have to do so many NICS checks, and why you have turned down sales based on your own gut instinct. Those limited few as#@&%es.
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