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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Dec 5, 2014 - 01:18pm PT
Is it still a lie if one is not smart enough to know they're repeating one?

DMT
couchmaster

climber
Dec 5, 2014 - 02:08pm PT
Senator Dianne Feinstein opposed an amendment to her so-called assault weapons ban legislation that would allow veterans to continue buying firearms the bill would outlaw. Retired police would have been exempt but not veterans.

What she actually said was:

"SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN: If I understand this, this adds an exemption of retired military. As I understand our bill, no issue has arose in this regard during the 10 years the expired ban was in effect and what we did in the other bill was exempt possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States. So that included active military.

The problem with expanding this is that, you know, with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War, itís not clear how the seller or transferrer of a firearm covered by this bill would verify that an individual was a member, or a veteran, and that there was no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this.

So, you know, I would be happy to sit down with you again and see if we could work something out but I think we have to-- if youíre going to do this, find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally donít have access to this kind of weapon.

Video here:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/03/08/feinstein_veterans_may_have_ptsd_and_should_not_be_exempt_from_assault_weapons_ban.html







Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Dec 5, 2014 - 02:14pm PT
Oh MY! Vets are whack, hahahahahahaha!

DMT
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Dec 5, 2014 - 02:18pm PT
"why not start a new thread quoting all the LIES you have told on this forum?"

Because that would make the 306th pos thread he's started, further cementing his pathetic need for attention, while distracting from ST's primary purpose.

Naaahhh...ban him for lifetime...let him go poison another forum somewhere. Its best for everyone.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Dec 5, 2014 - 02:46pm PT
The thing I find bizarre about Feinstein's remarks is this:

with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War

PTSD is a byproduct of warfighting. Before Vietnam they called it shell shock and said man up. Tell a Vietnam Vet that PTSD is a new phenomenon of the Iraq War, you'll get a mouth full.

I had an experience with PTSD. TMI to get into here. It was caused by a single gruesome incident, so two hours of quality time with a specialist sorted it out. But my heart goes out to those soldiers who come home with layers upon layers of horrific experiences all tangled into some web of emotional hell.

Just saying that if she's going to talk about it she should be better informed.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Dec 5, 2014 - 03:18pm PT
Who's hating? We're having a discussion.

And, yes, Kris, that was the one thing Feinstein should be criticized for, something she actually said, not something someone wished she had said.
johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Dec 5, 2014 - 03:54pm PT
I've never meet a veteran that went into or came out of the service that wanted special considerations for themselves, all they want is to be treated like anyone else. Lets let the experts decide if anyone is too mentally unstable to possess a gun.

Ive heard those that defend the rights to guns scream as loud as anyone that any mentally ill people that have committed illegal acts with a gun shouldn't of had a gun to start with.

Now it's sounding like they want to amend their previous positions.
johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Dec 5, 2014 - 04:46pm PT
Who twisted what words of yours?
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Dec 5, 2014 - 04:54pm PT
Yeah, Ron, when have I twisted your words?

As for Feinstein's quote, I'm glad you admit it was false. I was starting to get worried about you. :-)

And you should know better than to believe ANYTHING that comes in your email!
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Dec 5, 2014 - 04:54pm PT
Ron as tragic victim.

Attention seekers will take it any way they can get it.
moosedrool

climber
lost, far away from Poland
Dec 5, 2014 - 05:10pm PT
OP:


Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 20, 2012 - 11:00pm PT
Okay folks. This is your space to talk about all pro and anti gun issues.

I am not the moderator. I probably won't even show up here that often.

keep it civil, and on topic. :-)
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Dec 5, 2014 - 05:31pm PT
Civil, on topic... but some potty mouth..funny though.
moosedrool

climber
lost, far away from Poland
Dec 5, 2014 - 05:50pm PT
Ron, if it can prevent a biscuit invasion, go for it!

Moose
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Dec 5, 2014 - 06:25pm PT
The Kalashnikov factory built Saiga IZ132 chambered in 7.62x39 mm is a durable, utility type weapon.

Saiga IZ 132
Saiga IZ 132
Credit: pud

Pictured above with the Tapco forend, Bushnell red dot site, Bipod and cheek rest, the AK upper allows reliability and accuracy in a low maintenance platform.
Obama outlawed the importation of all Kalashnikov weapons last summer so your only chance to acquire one of these fine weapons is through private party transfer at you local FFL dealer.
AR 15's may be slightly more accurate over 100 yards but the Saiga will take a beating and continue to deliver reliably. Ammo is roughly half the price of .223 making it an economical choice as well.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Dec 5, 2014 - 06:36pm PT
The thing I find bizarre about Feinstein's remarks is this:


with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War

PTSD is a byproduct of warfighting. Before Vietnam they called it shell shock and said man up. Tell a Vietnam Vet that PTSD is a new phenomenon of the Iraq War, you'll get a mouth full.

I had an experience with PTSD. TMI to get into here. It was caused by a single gruesome incident, so two hours of quality time with a specialist sorted it out. But my heart goes out to those soldiers who come home with layers upon layers of horrific experiences all tangled into some web of emotional hell.

Just saying that if she's going to talk about it she should be better informed.

Actually PTSD is caused by a lot more than war. Senator Feinstein is senile and retarded. I often wondered if the offspring of Feinstein and Bush would produce a Black Hole sucking all knowledge and reality into it.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Dec 5, 2014 - 06:39pm PT
Ron,
The Bushnell makes tight groups @ 100 yards relatively easy.
It costs almost as much as the $450.00 retail of the stock weapon itself.
That is, before Obama doubled the value in his ongoing feud with Vladimir.
crankster

Trad climber
Dec 11, 2014 - 05:49pm PT
You can't make this up...

ByDANIEL STRAUSSPublishedDECEMBER 11, 2014
A woman charged with shooting and killing her ex-husband and stepdaughter has strong connections to groups advocating for expanding open carry gun laws in Texas.

Local news outlets on Wednesday reported that Veronica Dunnachie was arrested and charged with shooting and killing her ex-husband and step daughter.

Buried in some of the initial reporting on the arrest of Dunnachie seems to have been an active participant in open carry groups in Texas. The local ABC affiliate, WFAA, noted that Dunnachie's Facebook page is photos of her engaged in open carry firearm advocacy activities. WFAA also noted that one of her profile pictures included the text "Sometimes removing some people out of your life makes room for better people."
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Dec 11, 2014 - 09:42pm PT
Nice Ron, with a little bit of work 10/22's are one of my favorite to teach people long range rifle work with. Most have no idea .22LR match ammo can hit tennis balls all day long at 100 yards and most of the day in perfect conditions at 200...

200 is more like archery. :)
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Dec 15, 2014 - 02:46pm PT
The Armed Citizen:
Officials in a Philadelphia suburb are looking for an Iraq war veteran they say is a suspect in a shooting rampage that left six of his relatives dead Monday.

Former Marine Corps Sgt. Bradley William Stone, 35, of Pennsburg, Pa., is being sought in the shootings in Lansdale, Lower Salford Township and Souderton.

Montgomery County law enforcement officials said they considered Stone armed and dangerous, and that he often used a cane or a walker and might be wearing military fatigues. As of Monday afternoon, local media reported that SWAT teams had surrounded a home in Pennsburg, and a news conference by public safety officials was delayed.

All the victims have a familial relationship to Stone, police said, but they did not identify them.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-montogomery-county-shooting-20141215-story.html
moosedrool

climber
Andrzej Citkowicz far away from Poland
Dec 15, 2014 - 02:55pm PT
It's your birthday, Ron, so I won't give you a hard time. But, 99% (my guess based on observation) of the population should not be allowed to own a gun.

Moose
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