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coz

Gym climber
Belmont
Mar 29, 2013 - 02:03pm PT
Well,

I don't think he's much of a match for you and Joe, but he's no idiot.

You two just love to debate, and even claim more knowledge than I have, about celebrity security, even though I work with them often. Joe is just going off the deep end, and is really a very kind, super intelligent man in person, but like DR F, he turns into a monster on line.

I'm not sure how I feel about guns, but I sure don't like the fact that just about every low life meth head in the desert has one.

No quick fixes to this problem, and the violence seems to be getting worse, not better.

But I would cringe if someone tried to take my gun and my right to defend myself.

Clearly there room for a great debate, but name calling doesn't really fall into critical thinking now does it?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 29, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
You want to know who truly influenced me in the last 10 years? A vet named Dan Burns, who my buddy was close freinds with. Enlisted at the age of 16 -was in the batan death march for his 17th birthday- escaped and finished the war with multiple HIGH honor awards. Recently buried in Arlington, with a host of presidents, Astronauts, Foreign Dignitarys, and many other people. Those were the people Dan communicated with like buddies. He mad a fortune turning war vehicles into agricultural machines in Africa aftr the war. 100% self made man that knew the upper crust. He too said things have changed for the worse, and he never would have thought it would be so. That man contained more knowledge of such mattrs than the whole of supertopo membership.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Mar 29, 2013 - 02:23pm PT
"But I will not accept it when it is presented as factual yet contradicts all available information... and certainly not when it affects public policy and/or promotes vigilante justice and conspiracy theories of civil unrest and government invasions."

Well, religion might be applicable after all.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 29, 2013 - 03:03pm PT
Ron posted:

I have little. I lost what i had six years past to a fake relationship, home included.. The last 6 months have left me with medical bills that are hard to fathom. So i continue on just barely floating my lips above the tide line trying to actually pay off bills instead of the ohhw soo fun bankrupcy square dance.
But i give waht i can where and when i can good times and bad.

Hi Ron,

well, I just want to say that I AM truly sorry that you are in the terrible situation you are in.
First not having a relationship not work out and then I am guessing you had some sort of accident or disease to necessitate large medical bills, I also assume you did NOT have any health insurance.

All that has as you say wiped you out and it is also very unfortunate that the work that you do is low pay and sporadic, that just makes everything else that much more difficult.

Your low income and lack of being able to afford quality health insurance is exactly the kind of person the new healthcare bill is deigned to benefit and that part of it starts in 2015, sadly some years later than you needed it but likely it will help you in the future.

Seriously Ron, you have a tough personal life with all that has happened to you. I wish I knew some way to help you out, good luck and I mean it.
John
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 29, 2013 - 03:09pm PT
Thanks for the sentiments Norton! Its all just life really,,and many are far worse off than me..Although statistically im at a low lol! But life isnt just about statistics, bills and bank accounts. Ive learned to live without many luxuries, that i find i do not miss. Ive been lucky to lead the life ive had thus far and i have no one to blame but myslef for past directions taken. Me and about ten million others had the perfect storm hit them..
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 29, 2013 - 03:33pm PT
That sounds ruff. I have some good friends who lost their house and job, but I still give them sh#t when they can't substantiate their claims, especially about gov take overs and aliens. It's nothing personal. My dad worked his whole life to start and run 3 businesses, only to die from cancer with no health insurance and not a penny to his name... all before the Marxist Obummer dictatorship took over. I still gave him sh#t when he insisted all NBA games were actually fixed by Las Vegas using XBOX simulations and vegetables give you cancer.

Still, I feel for you Ron. It's got to be hard. Sorry for being a dick... not sorry for calling you out on your outrageous claims and dissemination of false information... but sorry for being a dick about it.

peas
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Mar 29, 2013 - 03:37pm PT
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/0433b30576/cold-dead-hand-with-jim-carrey

Thanks to fux news or i wouldn't have heard about this.

Jim Carrey doing Charlton Heston... awesome!!

Edit: sorry I missed jhedge had already posted earlier.
jghedge

climber
Mar 29, 2013 - 03:46pm PT
"You two just love to debate, and even claim more knowledge than I have, about celebrity security, even though I work with them often."

And I don't?

I gave you 2 specific examples of 2-day shoots I did with McCartney and Bieber, where they showed up either by himself (PMC) or with his dad (Bieber). No security, no "spec ops guys", nothing.

H'wood celebs don't live day-to-day life with armed guards in tow. Wanna know why? It's simple. Most of them have kids. Nobody wants to bring up their kids surrounded by armed guards! You do understand that, right?

And I'm at Disney Studios fairly regularly. There is no need for celebs to be accompanied at Disney, Paramount, Warner etc by "spec ops teams". When I was at NBC, I worked in the same building that they did the news feeds out of, and celebs would show up to do live promos for local/national news. Then you'd see them with security - but I never saw any guns. You really think they're going to start shooting at people? Private security is going to get into gun battles? When has that ever happened, or come close to happening?

There's just not the need for it. Like I said, PMC drives around LA by himself in a convertible with the top down - and that's with Lennon being murdered.
jghedge

climber
Mar 29, 2013 - 04:05pm PT
Here's another one

DiCaprio and his GF Gisela showed up a few times at Red Studios when I was there - on his motorcycle. They had helmets on so no one could tell who they were, and they can just drive around anonymously in public that way.

Obviously, no security. Nobody, Coz, wants to live in some whacko, paranoid fantasy world where they have to travel around with armed guards.
coz

Gym climber
Belmont
Mar 29, 2013 - 04:10pm PT
Joe,

How about this, go fcuk yourself.


I never said all celebrities have armed guards, some do. I worked on plenty of movies and have seen this with my own eyes.

So, take your little agro know it all stick and go bang it on someone else's head, OK.

EDIT, what's going on with you guy? Pissing off Chris, now me, calling Ron all kinds of names. Just STFU will ya?

jghedge

climber
Mar 29, 2013 - 04:28pm PT
"I never said all celebrities have armed guards, some do."

Here's what you said:



"Although, I've notice it's usaually only the big guys like Justin Bebier, Sly, Shahrukh Kahn, Pitt etc."

"These guys often roll with car loads of former spec op guys in tow."

"When they come to sets their security come with them."



Then I told you about a Bieber music vid I worked where he showed up with his dad, and no one else. Both days.



You preceded that by telling me that i had "no idea what I was talking about". Sorry Coz but I do.

And you're the one telling your friends to fuk off, not me.


You can sure dish it out, Coz - but you sure as hell can't take it.







Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Mar 29, 2013 - 04:29pm PT
This argument is so L.A..
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 29, 2013 - 04:32pm PT
I didn't watch it... just assumed it was accurate and relevant

Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 29, 2013 - 04:50pm PT
I didn't watch it... just assumed it was accurate and relevant

Is that a line from the video?
jghedge

climber
Mar 29, 2013 - 04:56pm PT
"Is that a line from the video?"

Hahahaha

Nope - not banal enough
jghedge

climber
Mar 29, 2013 - 05:26pm PT

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/03/29/jim-carrey-says-fox-news-slandered-him-in-its-coverage-his-comedy-web-video/

"Fux News is a last resort for kinda-sorta-almost journalists whose options have been severely limited by their extreme and intolerant views; a media colostomy bag that has begun to burst at the seams and should be emptied before it becomes a public health issue."

"...nothing more than a giant culture fart that no amount of Garlique could cure."


No-talent hacks vs $20 million-a-picture comedian?

Hahahahaha

"Please proceed, Governor."


Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Mar 29, 2013 - 06:40pm PT
Hey gun nuts?

Why you no want tougher penalties for what are known as "straw purchase" gun laws?

You would be able to pass a background check to get your gun, so how would this affect you? Unless, you knowingly buy a gun for a felon.

Is that the type of America you want?

Senators who voted against tougher "straw purchase" laws:
Orrin Hatch (R)
(the tranny) Lindsey Graham (R)
John Cornyn (R)
Mike Lee (R)
Ted Cruz (R)
Jeff Flake (aptly named, huh?) (R)
Jeff Sessions (R)


Republicons Giant Fail……..again
jghedge

climber
Mar 29, 2013 - 06:59pm PT
"Why you no want tougher penalties for what are known as "straw purchase" gun laws?"


Because repubs know that co-operating with us on anything will only accelerate their inevitable demise - that is their entire rationale for obstructionism.

They've just barely got the wingnut base still on board as it is. Any compromise with dems, and it's Tea Party here we come. A few repubs already know a 3rd party is inevitable anyway (Rand Paul and Cruz) and will be running as/campaigning for tea party candidates 2014 and 16.

Might as well - the repub party is doomed, and they know it.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 29, 2013 - 07:07pm PT
WTF???

why would ANYONE in their right mind OPPOSE tougher penalties for STRAW BUYERS?

what possible reason?


oh yeah, all of these guys got lots of their campaign re election cash from the NRA

bought and paid for by the NRA and the Republican Party

Senators who voted against tougher "straw purchase" laws:
Orrin Hatch (R)
(the tranny) Lindsey Graham (R)
John Cornyn (R)
Mike Lee (R)
Ted Cruz (R)
Jeff Flake (aptly named, huh?) (R)
Jeff Sessions (R)

well come one!

why don't you piss and moan and wring your hands about how "corrupt" those fukers are
jghedge

climber
Mar 31, 2013 - 11:43am PT
Your Daily Dose Of FREEDOM

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/deputy-texas-district-attorney-wife-found-dead-18848303#.UViB_FEZf0c

Kaufman County District Attorney Mike McLelland took no chances after one of his assistant prosecutors was assassinated two months ago. McLelland said he carried a gun everywhere he went and took extra care when answering the door at his home.

"I'm ahead of everybody else because, basically, I'm a soldier," the 23-year Army veteran boasted in an interview less than two weeks ago.

On Saturday, he and his wife were found dead in their home just outside the town of Forney, about 20 miles from Dallas, killed in an attack for which authorities have given no motive.

The killings came less than two weeks after Colorado's prison chief was gunned down at his front door by a white-supremacist ex-convict, and two months after Kaufman County Assistant District Attorney Mark Hasse was shot to death in a parking lot a block from his office Jan. 31. No arrests have been made in Hasse's slaying.


YEE HAW!!!


MORE GUNS! MORE GUNS! MORE GUNS! MORE GUNS! MORE GUNS! MORE GUNS!


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