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fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jul 8, 2014 - 07:00pm PT
Yes, 'revoking' the 2nd Amendment would certainly fix the rampant poverty and gang violence in Chicago.

When the media tells you to jump, how do you know how high to go?
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jul 8, 2014 - 07:27pm PT
Yes, 'revoking' the 2nd Amendment would certainly fix the rampant poverty and gang violence in Chicago.

Now we're getting to the heart of the matter. As long as the rich are given free reign to run this entire nation for their, and only their benefit, there will be poverty, and with poverty comes crime. Who here would watch their children slowly wither away from malnutrition?

The comfort of the rich depends upon an abundant supply of the poor.
- Voltaire

Meanwhile, still waiting for the "legalize drugs" crowd to explain which, and how that's going to be a good thing.

Because it reduces crime and deaths. But don't take my word for it. Consumer Reports laid it all out 40 years ago.
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/cu/cumenu.htm
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jul 8, 2014 - 07:55pm PT
Read Licit and Illicit Drugs and then get back to me about prohibiting drugs.

When a mad man bursts into a school room and starts injecting children with overdoses of heroin, then maybe we can equate easy access to guns with legal drugs.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:06pm PT

jonnyrig

climber

Jul 8, 2014 - 07:39pm PT
Brilliant. Ban guns, legalize drugs. F*#k this place.

Prohibition failed once and is failing again. Alcohol is a drug. A very dangerous one, in fact. Durp.

I don't advocate legalization of every drug, but the war against drugs has failed the masses miserably. Mandatory minimum sentences for non violent drug charges only fatten prison guards and their industry, rob families of their loved ones, and create hardened repeat offenders. We have stigmatized and penalized drug addicts and torn this society apart while profiting the scum on either side of the bars. Wise the hell up before you blather your accusatory gun sensitive drama.

Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:08pm PT
Think it through, jonnyrig. Back in my bakery days I couldn't buy a beer after 2 am, but cocaine, loads, weed was all readily available. In high school it was a lot easier to get LSD than alcohol.

Make it legal and you eliminate crime. Read the book, or maybe ignorance makes you feel better about your views?
moosedrool

climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:09pm PT
+1 Jebus

Andrzej
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:10pm PT
Can't make him drink, I guess ;).

I smoke nothing, bra! Nor do I drink, snort, slam, or huff it. Treatment, education, and stop moaning about your freedom to murder, thanks.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:18pm PT
What are you so angry about?

Maybe it's time for another vacation from the forum for you?

Edit: in response to j rig's now deted "fuk you!"
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:39pm PT
Wow!
7SacredPools

Trad climber
Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:41pm PT
Well then Ron, I suppose your murder rate should drop with all those new guns protecting you. Let's see how it goes.

Right now the US has 3 times the murder rate that Canada has, and 5 times the gun related murder rate. Here in the Great White North we do most of our killin' old school.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:45pm PT
Yeah, when I have time I'll read through the link. It's a lot of info. I don't have time right now.

Cool, you'll find it very interesting.



I actually prefer to learn what I can when I can, whether I agree with the point of view or not. Maybe you could refrain from calling me ignorant. But if it makes you feel better...

My apologies. I never thought of you as the stick your head in the sand type.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:46pm PT
Here in the Great White North we do most of our killin' old school.

Yeah! That makes it MUCH better!

Actually, contrary to what most Americans presently believe, the US was never designed to be a SAFE nation, or "less violent," or "more civilized" than other nations. It was designed to be the most free nation. When "give me liberty or give me death" rings in your ears and the ears of your family and friends, then you will have a totally different perspective on the non-"epidemic of gun violence" in this country.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:47pm PT
Hear a lot ringing in your ears, huh? Well, at least that explains it!

"Give me liberty" he intones as we jail ever increasing percentages of our fellow Americans. Rich!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:47pm PT
Mist is what im getting at here.

ROFL

Okay, I guess that if you intend to shoot someone, you intend to kill that person. So why not pink mist? Certainly an effective way to ensure that the job is, uhhh... shall we say... DONE.
7SacredPools

Trad climber
Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:52pm PT
Statistically speaking, there will be a good chance the person I shoot will be a mistake. I'd rather my mistakes didn't die.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:56pm PT
The debate is over

Yup, and so far, on this subject, freedom has been winning. At least in most states.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Jul 8, 2014 - 08:58pm PT
Statistically speaking, there will be a good chance the person I shoot will be a mistake.

Then I'd highly recommend more training, so that you don't become a statistic.
7SacredPools

Trad climber
Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Jul 8, 2014 - 09:11pm PT
I'm not really talking about me as I don't have a gun.


7SacredPools

Trad climber
Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Jul 8, 2014 - 09:44pm PT
You be right Mr. K, how foolish of me.

On the whole "freedom" issue Madbolter 1, do you see the irony of the US having 25% of the world's inmates, yet only 5% of the population?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Jul 8, 2014 - 09:46pm PT
do you see the irony of the US having 25% of the world's inmates, yet only 5% of the population?

No! Throw the dirty buggers in jail!!!!!

FAK!

Statistically speaking, there will be a good chance the person I shoot will be a mistake.

So shoot another one, even the score! FAK!

DMT
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