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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 5, 2013 - 02:08pm PT
BWAHAHA! Its all GUD,, after you get through, the chukar hills will be MUCH lower!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Apr 5, 2013 - 02:44pm PT
The UK had 35 gun deaths last year, 20 of which were suicides - only 15 gun murders in a country of 60 million. We have 12,000 gun murders a year.

Guess it depends on what metrics you care about. Again, your fixation on murder, murder, murder shines through in everything. Actually, I'd rather live here.

See: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime-total-crimes

The UK has less than 1/5 the number of people as the US, but they have more than half as much crime as we do. Sure, fewer murders, but in general a more crime-ridden society.

Perhaps you're missing Ron's overarching point, because he's not fixated on one single sort of crime.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 5, 2013 - 02:44pm PT
hedge, you ever been there?
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Apr 5, 2013 - 02:46pm PT
If other countries agreed that more guns = less crime, they'd be arming the populace. Instead they're doing the opposite.

yeah right!

p.s. i'm sure my swiss climber buddy would'nt agree with you. he'd say ur a stupid american who never ate horse!

also, don't forget the swiss have their tunnels equipped/ready with TNT in case of an invasion. maybe we should arm all the tunnels in the us.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 5, 2013 - 02:50pm PT
No to mention after serving, they all get a fully auto AK with a thousand rounds of ammo, are required to shoot once per year and are provided ammo for that as well. What a concept,, the govt giving ammo to the people!
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Apr 5, 2013 - 03:10pm PT
Switzerland has very strict gun laws, including strict laws on private sales.

http://csgv2.blogspot.com/2011/03/truth-about-guns-in-switzerland.html

It is no surprise that the United States has an astronomically higher gun death rate than any other industrialized democracy. The critical concept of civic duty—which is such a central element of Switzerland’s gun culture—has been eviscerated in the United States over time by the gun lobby.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 5, 2013 - 03:21pm PT
The Swiss are the 4th highest country in gun ownership. 60 out of 100 people own and shoot guns.



edit: for the poster asking me about helo flights in the area,, just had a fallon NAS ship go over head. Heading east on a para line with hgwy 50.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Apr 5, 2013 - 03:23pm PT
And they are heavily regulated, Anderson. Much of the gun possession is related to being in a real militia organization with regular training.

Somehow I knew you would miss the point.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Apr 5, 2013 - 03:27pm PT
The NRA would pout and cry like a little boy if Swiss style gun laws were proposed here.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 5, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
The Swiss dont let in hundreds of thousands of the worst of third world peoples either...

MS13 a gud reference there of...
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Apr 5, 2013 - 03:32pm PT
That's funny Anderson.

Don't you remember posting that xenophobic article saying the claiming Swiss were susceptible to Muslims demanding Sharia laws in their Muslim ghettos?

They have a higher Muslim population by percentage then we do.

Or are you OK with Muslims now, or is it's just the Mexicans you want out?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 5, 2013 - 03:36pm PT
Oh yeah Mono, they too have their problems. BUt none such as ours.

Hey,, if I were an illegal criminal gang member , known to the LEOs, how long do you think id walk around free and easy? We have HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of criminal gang members here now, MOSTLY from third world countries. All known, all here free and easy, committing daily shootings coast to coast. Local LEOS can NOT touch them due to a severe misuse of the constitution and terminology due to political correctness.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Apr 5, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
Are you OK with Swiss type gun laws in the US, Anderson?

If not, then you and Pyro just look ill informed bragging about Switzerland.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 5, 2013 - 03:40pm PT
kinda fun riding the tube there huh? loved the double deck buses. The high population density was a bit much for me though. The kids i went to school with were shocked i knew how to shoot, but they all seemed to think i lived in the wild west. course i thought they were all a bunch of pompous limeys.

sure was fun getn to ACTUALLY know eachother and dispell such heinous preconceptions.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 5, 2013 - 03:54pm PT
Here Mono some NV facts..


THE FOCUS
Nevada’s illegal immigration crisis is among the worst in the nation. Recent studies show Nevada with the highest percentage of illegal immigrants and illegal workers. With one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation, many Nevadans are unable to find jobs in manual labor, where illegal immigrants win the competition among employers paying low wages. Rather than enforcing immigration laws, President Obama’s proposed Dream Act would grant amnesty to millions of immigrants who entered the U.S. illegally, while millions of legal immigrants wait for years to earn citizenship and Americans struggle to find work.
THE FACTS
The nest cost of illegal immigration to the American taxpayer is approximately $100 billion.
Source: F.A.I.R.

Education for the children of illegal aliens represents the single largest public expenditure at an annual cost of $52 billion. Nearly all of that cost is absorbed by state and local governments.
Source: F.A.I.R.

The large population of illegal aliens is straining the state’s health care and criminal justice infrastructure. Eighteen percent of Clark County residents do not have health insurance and rely on the valley’s crowded emergency room for routine care; health officials note many are illegal aliens.
Source: F.A.I.R.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 5, 2013 - 04:03pm PT
Ron said:

Local LEOS can NOT touch them due to a severe misuse of the constitution and terminology due to political correctness.

After three years of law school, I thought I was pretty damn good on the Constitution.

I am not aware of any "severe misuse of the constitution" or any "terminology due to political correctness?


Ron, please elaborate further on both your points and especially on the misuse of the constitution

specifically what part, what amendment of constitution is being misused severely?

thanks
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 5, 2013 - 04:08pm PT
just an opinion Norton,, but if you have a throng of illegal invading people, they should in now way be entitled to anything other than the Geneva convention. They call ME people they catch here terrorists, They will drone citizens turned terrorist overseas,, yet lovely types like M S 13 are free to exists here KNOWN to LEOs.. That im my opinion, is 100 % hog wash.

Part of your tax dollars just flew over the shop on routine patrols here now thanks to much the same non sense. So now we have a little "Fed" war here of sorts, over illegal people, here illegally, doing illegal things and even advertising that fact with cute tattoos and colors. They have driven our homicide rates up which is skewed at best since they ARENT citizens, nor part of this country. They are known only for illegal activities, and if that isnt a good description of an enemy combatant then none are. And my Mexican buddies agree with me. The kids of parent that fought long and hard through all the hoops to get here legally and proud to be American.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 5, 2013 - 04:26pm PT
Ranchers and farmers LOVE the ground hog hunters and the hog hunters these days as that is the only control on extremely destructive species such as those.

Because they done shot all the coyotes. You'd think people who "live on the land" like that would get a clue... EVENTUALLY. But they don't.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 5, 2013 - 04:30pm PT
jeezersRice wes... You THINK a coyote is gonna TOUCH a wild boar? BE it a boar or a sow? Maybe after its been dead for eight hours lol! Wild hogs are MEAN in a way like the cape buffalo or hippo is. Ive seen em charge guys on quads and damm near get em! They would stomp a dog into the dirt like so many acorns.
One giant hog took six rounds from a 44 mag until the guy finally hit something VITAL as it charged him, fell dead about six feet away on the last shot. The shield of cartlidge on their chest is four inches thick.
frank wyman

Mountain climber
montana
Apr 5, 2013 - 04:35pm PT
Jeezzs..Ron...Who are you going to believe?..."GOOGLEGUY"...or your own "LYING EYES"?
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