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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
Generally conspiracies don't involve public requests for bids on contracts.

hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:29pm PT
So- non milhtary? Not the national guard? DHS is the only unmarked birds? Proof please.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:32pm PT
Military has very standard markings and i also see those regular-- along the highway 50 corridor.. Navel ships from Fallon NAS. DHS is the only ones i know without an ID number or other standard govt markings. They have none at all. So imo, thats who they-wuz. The guy at the thirty cal was dressed in a black flight suit wearing what looked like ray ban "wayfarers" and a black helmet. He had a moustache also-- looked right at me and DIDNT wave the unfreindly f*ck anyhoo.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:43pm PT
Fair enough. Here,s a couple possibilities for ya-

they may not be the only unmarked birds.
They may have a training ground nearby.

Remember, i live just down the street from ya, and i,ve yet to see them. Not saying you havent, but im a hard sell for conspiracies.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:43pm PT
There are many other things that satisfy all but the last two words, and these do much more damage in all respects. But they are legal and even more unlikely to be legislated against than guns

Things a felon can purchase, potentially deadly-
cars, trucks, gasoline, matches, propane, poison,
free online books on explosives, geurilla warfare tactics,
other chemicals,
and more.

Automobiles (so glad we get to go over this one AGAIN): "legislated against", registered, insured, and ESSENTIAL for the daily lives of most Americans... at least until we get a major overhaul of our infrastructure. All automobiles are required by law to have safety belts... are all guns required by law to have a safety? In all but 1 state you are required by law to wear the safety belt. You can avoid cars if you stay off the roads. You can't avoid guns simply by staying off the shooting ranges.

Explosives: "legislated against", http://www.atf.gov/explosives/how-to/explosive-storage-requirements.html NOTE: No similar regulations for the safe storage of guns.

Gasoline: I'm actually surprised more people don't blow up gas stations, but see "explosives"

Books: don't kill. Most of the sh#t in the Anarchists Cookbook are feeble at best.

Tactics: Where can you purchase tactics?


and yes madbolter...

Cigarettes: regulated, and very easy to walk away from.


Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:47pm PT
Well Hillrat, i see them nearly EVERY day. The come on parallel to highway 50 from the east, then circle over me to the north, hover for a moment nearly over Moonlight "ranch" then turn and follow the river corridor as far as i can see them. Some days ive had six and seven of differnt types of helos. The other day we had EIGHT C-130s come over following the river corridor east at about 300 feet agl. Ive taken MANY pics of em actually, and the f*ckewrs dont wave here either!.. There were multiple plantations by illegals found around here last year . That on FED lands for the most. Could have a bearing here. Like i said they circled Rick and I like three or four times up at Dinosaur..
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:51pm PT
I think Ron is mostly upset that "the f*ckewrs dont wave"... but I'm only basing that on the fact that he has mentioned it several times.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:52pm PT
Well Ron

it sounds like your neighborhood is getting a lot of law enforcement attention

pretty much exactly what you want, right?

and judging from your comments about how shitty it is where you live, about time too!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:54pm PT
Well doood,, as a former fed employee, there was this thing that became called "the host" program,, which I Taught to the noobs during their training phases. DHS is a govt service, therefore MY employee. Yeah- they should damm well wave back if waved at. I sure as hell did..



edit: Norton, Nev is one of the states receiving the most illegals recently. That includes cartels branches as well that grow pot on federal lands, and mix meth in camp trailers they power with propane bottles the steal elsewhere. Now, Since we have some 900 KNOWN gang members now in Cartoon city, why is it the Sheriff can not touch them UNTIL they get caught after comitting a crime. Most are ILLEGAL to begin with. If they are part of a KNOWN CRIMINAL GANG, they ARE the worst of circumstances we could wish on an enemy let alone ourselves. they should be KNOWN to the public. We have a right to know who they are as much as the sheriff, since we are possible victims to be. But GOVT policies protect them. If entering this country illegally to begin with,AND with known CRIMINAL ties, then your not entitled to constitutional right- your an invading enemy .
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:55pm PT
Just sayin, if you got a little chemistry and a recipe book.,

Try any surplus store for tactics. Should we have the how-to manuals so easily accessible? Its not the anarchist cookbook crap, its the same manuals used to train our own armed forces. There are other books around with accurate explosives recipes. Its free stuff. Cars- NOT essential for convicts. Agreed, theyre regulated. Not enough. Too many "accidental" deaths, by far.

Like i said (yeah, lets go over it again!), there are such things as reasonable regulations. you and me just disagree on what those are and how effective theyed be.

And i like berries better than apples or oranges, regardless of the nutrients. Just sayin.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
Should we have the how-to manuals so easily accessible?

I don't think so. But it doesn't seem worth getting all up in arms about right now.

you and me just disagree on what those are and how effective theyed be.

I'm not sure we do, but I'm pretty sure you think we do.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:01pm PT
it sounds like your neighborhood is getting a lot of law enforcement attention

pretty much exactly what you want, right?

That's sorta what I remembered of his take too...

You're kinda being picky there, Ron. You want airborne waves now? High speed back pats? How about they throw you down a corn dog cooked on their chopper motor while they're at it? Hahaha... Less government, more Walmart greeters!
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:03pm PT
Ron, i see the problem. Theyre too busy scoping the ranch there to notice you waving. Id think youd be glad they step up enforcement.

As to the dino rock thing, who knows? Maybe they never raw a climber before.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:05pm PT
Damm skippy Jeebs! If i take the time to wave and they dont back,, then those bastids need my HOST PROGRAM..
I had to smile and be civil to countless jack wagons more times thatn ill ever remember, so those guys can suck it up too!


I was about eight or nine when my brothers got a chemistry set- the ones they used to sell that had some of EVERYTHING in it! We made ieds that blew matresses into the air quite a distance!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:06pm PT
Cigarettes: regulated, and very easy to walk away from.

Well, sort of. Not in the ways necessary to correlate with proposed gun restrictions.

And, again, not so easy to walk away from. At least here in Colorado, my experience is that smokers don't stay very far away from doors, and the crap carries.

I don't want to inhale ANY of it, and why should I have to be the one that walks away? I'm not the one polluting myself and the atmosphere all around me with deadly toxic fumes. I want LAWS, damn it... with TEETH!

And kids typically cannot "walk away." It's in their homes, their cars.... If you're a kid growing up around smokers, it's absolutely pervasive.

So, I think we're a FAR cry from regulating cigarettes like we are proposing to regulate guns, both qualitatively and quantitatively.

Now, I'm not saying anybody here is opposed to such regulation. Several have stated they would also be in favor of that. But there's no frothy thread on that subject, nor will there be. And there's no congressional hand-wringing on that subject, nor will there be. And to me the question remains whether or not such legislation could have the desired effect.

And what about FAT? What parents do to and allow to happen to their fat little kids is surely criminal. The statistics on this front make all others pale by comparison. Another slow but sure premature killer, not to mention the losses in lifestyle and productivity. Again, neither proximate nor sexy, but statistically VERY significant. I want anti-fat legislation to protect these poor kids.

Save the whales!
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:08pm PT
Well, maybe we agree. I duno. We,re not at either extreme anway. I dont follow the follow the thread close enough, just pop in from time to time like today (turning rotors at work) and stir the pot a bit. Not getn enough climbing in these days. Two jobs plus a baby.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:10pm PT
We made ieds that blew matresses into the air quite a distance!

Just the kind of non felon who should have unlimited access to all the guns they want.


I don't want to inhale ANY of it, and why should I have to be the one that walks away? I'm not the one polluting myself and the atmosphere all around me with deadly toxic fumes. I want LAWS, damn it... with TEETH!

Take some personal responsibility and remove yourself from the threat, or at least tell the fukers they are breaking the law. YOU can do that with cigarettes. Not so easy when someone is pointing a gun at you.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:11pm PT
The other day we had EIGHT C-130s come over following the river corridor east at about 300 feet agl. Ive taken MANY pics of em actually, and the f*ckewrs dont wave here either!..

That was just Red Flag or Weapons School dodging the bad guys.

They are a bit too busy to wave.

Four sets of eyeballs out front and two on the sides. They don't have any fancy terrain following electronics.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:14pm PT
They are a bit too busy to wave.


but no!

they should have recognized Ron and waved to him!

stupid ungrateful basterds
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:16pm PT
Thats what IM sayin! I was a former fed leo! Pricks!

I was "PIG O DA WOODS" dammit! Hung in effigy- voo-doo doll style in the centerville bar!(RIP bar)
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