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paul roehl

Boulder climber
california
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:30pm PT
Is there any type or kind of weapon or arm that a citizen should be prohibited from owning?

If you feel there is such a weapon tell me how the outlawing of said weapon in not a violation of the second amendment.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:34pm PT
Credit: HighTraverse
excluding summer vacations, more than 1 school shooting per week since Newtown
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:34pm PT
"What a relief! I feel much better about all this!"

No doubt. I'm sure the parents of the Reynolds HS kid are breathing huge sighs of relief.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:36pm PT
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State
When the gun owner signs up for a well regulated militia
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:38pm PT
Is there any type or kind of weapon or arm that a citizen should be prohibited from owning?



These are prohibited. If the Founding Fathers did not want us to have fission weapons, they would have prohibited them in the Constitution. But they didn't!
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jun 10, 2014 - 03:59pm PT
It's funny how quiet the gun-nutz get every time there's another school shooting.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jun 10, 2014 - 04:59pm PT
Pretty telling that in Oregon when they searched the students they found another kid with a gun unrelated.

Its the culture mot the gun, but parents need to gun proof their kids every bit as much as they need to kid proof their guns.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 06:51pm PT
I'm pretty sure Thomas Jefferson on his death bed said "I only wish I would live long enough to hold a .3006 to protect are freedoms" and then expired.


Ron posted
Since then they have been robbed four times.

Um...how many times were they robbed before then? And how many times were robberies stopped by people with guns? You kind of suck at statistics, dude. My hospital has banned guns and it's never been robbed and nobody has ever been shot. Boosh. Logical fallacy obliterated.

Also, what about all the Jack in the Boxes that HAVEN'T been robbed? By your "what about all the guns that HAVEN'T killed people" argument this is airtight logic. Right along with "what about all the American soldiers the Taliban HAVEN'T killed" and "what about all the cigarettes that children HAVEN'T smoked." Man I'm on a tear.
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 06:55pm PT
Jack in the box" fast food diners announced they would no longer allow carry guns in their chain stores. Since then they have been robbed four times.

Says World Net Daily.
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HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 06:58pm PT
No you see I don't believe the liberal media I just immediately believe whatever PatDollard.com says which means I'm a good critical thinker.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 10, 2014 - 07:09pm PT
It's funny how quiet the gun-nutz get every time there's another school shooting.

What should be said? People get shot in Chicago with illegal guns and murdered everyday with things other than firearms. I think you're trying to politicize a problem for something other than what it really is.

That is, a mental health and drug problem. Even that whack-job in Nevada who murdered the 2 cops was turned away from Bundy-ranch supporters. Dude was a tweaker.

And he was eventually stopped by a conceal-carry private citizen. Funny that your types never mention that, huh?
Bushman

Social climber
Elk Grove, CA
Jun 10, 2014 - 07:11pm PT
Attention all gun advocates!!

A conventional firearm will work in space. Gunpowder contains its own oxidizer, so it would ignite and the gases would function as they do here on earth. It's the same as a solid-fuel rocket which we know works in space.

In terms of ambient temperature, space is essentially a vacuum, which is a poor conductor, so radiant heat is the cooling process and it's fairly slow (one of the problems faced by astronauts is the need to get rid of body heat). If an astronaut were to bring a firearm from the shuttle or other environment where the weapon was at a normal operating temperature, or if the astronaut was in sunlight, the firearm would work just as well as it would on earth, maybe even better. You would have to be far out in space, away from the Sun and allow the weapon to cool over a period of time before it might fail to operate because of freezing.

The former Soviet Union actually equipped the Salyut 3 space station with an Nudelman-Rikhter aircraft automatic cannon. According to cosmonauts, the gun worked quite well.

So if you luv yer guns, cuz I know you do, go play cowboy in earth orbit. And leave all the oxygen here for us peaceniks.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 10, 2014 - 07:38pm PT
Rong and bluerong have a good point.

Guns are more important than children.

The cleti speak.

Do we really need to do this with the abortion crowd putting their "choices" above the lives of children? Really?

You f*#king people simply use children as political tools. You don't really give a f*#k about other people's children.

Innocent unborn babies are simply tools to you and your ilk. Children are only worthy of concern when they're an excuse to seize weapons from honest, innocent citizens.

You're pathetic, and you willingly ignore the real problem to advance your political agenda.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 07:40pm PT
Ron said
Well there was a shooting at renown med center in reno a couple of months back,--whooooosh goes your theory and anecdote.

But you're forgetting about all the medical centers where there WEREN'T shootings. Blammo. #RonLogic #HashtagsAreCool #WhatTheKidsAreDoingTheseDays
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 07:40pm PT
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HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 07:43pm PT
Innocent unborn babies are simply tools to you and your ilk.

bluering you are an impressively melodramatic guy.


bluering posted
And he was eventually stopped by a conceal-carry private citizen. Funny that your types never mention that, huh?


Uh no the concealed carry guy TRIED to stop him and got himself shot for his heroic trouble.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/09/wilcox-vegas-shooting-hate/10261163/


Interesting how "our types" seem to bother looking for facts about what actually happened. Stop reading Patdollard.com, bluering. Christ.
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Jun 10, 2014 - 07:54pm PT
Probably happen one of these days, then you won't have to ask.

Pretty recently in Reno one dude decided to surprise his friend who was coming to pick him up for a ride. I forget what the outcome was, but the shot man died and I think his friend got charged.

You could come up with plenty of scenarios that are iffy, if you tried. That's pretty easy.

I guess in your scenario I'd be tempted to keep my hand on my gun, concealed, unless the dude starts pointing his rifle around, you know... if I was packing. But hey, we had that happen at IHOP, only the dude came in blazing and nobody shot back.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 10, 2014 - 08:01pm PT
Uh no the concealed carry guy TRIED to stop him and got himself shot for his heroic trouble.

I think it's unquestionable that the guy stopped further people being shot. Him having a gun distracted the shooters.
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Jun 10, 2014 - 08:02pm PT
Unquestionable? Like... you were there, or you've seen video? That's nothing but conjecture and speculation on your part.

Dude, they offed themselves. That's an epic fail, and more murderous SOB's should try it, IMHO.
dirtbag

climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 08:12pm PT
They were Suicide Right Wing Domestic Terrorists

Well, that's what they were.

They were Bundy supporters too.
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