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Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
May 30, 2013 - 11:40pm PT
What we got ourselves here is a certified slab of hamburger grade meat head on our hands.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 30, 2013 - 11:47pm PT
well,

I thank President Obama for signing into law that I as a CCL holder can carry into the national parks in my state

I also thank him for signing into law that I can now carry on Amtrak trains

The Republicans with Bush had eight god dam years to get those into law and did NOT

Obama did them both in his first two years


I voted for ACTION on my second amendment rights, not dum ful bull sh!t talk

and I got it

so shut your ignorant right wing fuking mouth
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
May 31, 2013 - 01:53am PT
Fascinating how many nerves you hit referring to male inadequacy issues, and the obvious gun ownership corollary

Hard to imagine how such deep-seated shame could also be too overwhelming to even try to conceal

Are you saying that the American Patriots who stood up to and defeated the mightiest army and navy of the day had male inadequacy issues because they demanded the right to bear arms? And what is this bs about shame?
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
May 31, 2013 - 02:36am PT
Merely that it's interesting to contrast and compare the completely different reasons why they, and you, need guns.

Theirs was practical, yours psychological.

Who are you to say why I want or need guns? My "need" is psychological? I don't think so.
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
May 31, 2013 - 11:43am PT
My question is, who in the US military would obey an order to open fire on Americans on American soil. Really, over the 2nd amendmt?

Ignoring the jurisdiction issue, if the nut who mailed ricin to the President follows up on his threat to shoot anyone who comes after him in the face, how many in the military would have the slightest problem shooting back?

A significant bunch of gun-nuts violently opposing the (mostly) democratically elected government (i.e. opening fire on American police or soldiers on American soil) would be just about the best thing gun-control advocates could ever hope for. It is however, not going to happen.

TE
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 31, 2013 - 12:29pm PT
they got high and vegged out at the ALAMO?

WTF are you talking about?
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
May 31, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
All it would really take is one or two barricaded gun nut compounds getting taken out (in a few seconds) by an Apache gunship, allowing people to actually see how effective armed insurrection against the gov't really is, and the whole NRA/gun industrial complex would collapse overnight

I don't see it that way, such an unprovoked act would bolster their conspiracy theory, and get significant justified public sympathy and support. Of course, like the imaginary patriotic insurrection, the unprovoked preemptive assault won't happen either.

They can barricade themselves wherever they want, for as long as they want, the longer the better, but in the non-paranoid real world, the apaches would never be sent in until the the gun-nuts start killing to impose their view. At that point, the public would overwhelmingly support sending in those helicopters, followed soon by a constitutional amendment to eliminate any doubt that the constitution does not entitle anyone to conspire to overthrow the government.

TE
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
May 31, 2013 - 12:47pm PT
jghedge writes:

"All it would really take is one or two barricaded gun nut compounds getting taken out (in a few seconds) by an Apache gunship, allowing people to actually see how effective armed insurrection against the gov't really is..."




We're trying out your theory right now in Afghanistan - like a university study. And it looks as if you've been proven wrong, in the real world. The overnight collapse you speak of is taking more than ten years! Sure it sounds good, but in practice, we see otherwise.

I might add, Afghanistan is largely populated by illiterate cave men.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
May 31, 2013 - 12:52pm PT
You wouldn't have a link to one of those sites, would you?
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 31, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
Unhinged also supports terrorizing five year olds.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/cowboy-style-cap-gun-gets-5-year-old-ousted-from-school-in-calvert-county/2013/05/30/a3a8a178-c93c-11e2-9245-773c0123c027_story.html
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 31, 2013 - 01:55pm PT
When I was a kid we brought real ones.


No problems.



Repeating firearms have been around for 150 years.

the first incident of a mass shooting by a juvenile was in 1971

Why is that Unhinged?
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
May 31, 2013 - 02:01pm PT
The cap gun kid should try to get a lifetime NRA membership like this lucky little fellow:


The National Rifle Association has given an 8-year-old boy a free lifetime membership, the Baltimore Sun reports. His achievement was chewing a Pop-Tart into the shape of a gun.


Joshua Welch (Screenshot/Baltimore Sun)
The NRA gave Joshua Welch the free membership — which usually costs $550 — at a fundraiser Wednesday night for Anne Arundel County Republicans. Welch returned to playing games on his cellphone after he got the award, the Sun reported.

Welch got on the news after his March 1 suspension from Park Elementary School for the Pop-Tart incident. He was 7 then and denied trying to make the Pop-Tart look like a weapon.

When pressed by a CBS Baltimore reporter, though, Welch said, "When I was done, it turned out to be a gun, yeah."

Park Elementary told parents it would give counseling to any children who needed it after the Pop-Tart incident.

A lawyer has filed an appeal to get the two-day suspension off Welch's record.
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
May 31, 2013 - 08:16pm PT

We're trying out your theory right now in Afghanistan - like a university study. And it looks as if you've been proven wrong, in the real world. The overnight collapse you speak of is taking more than ten years! Sure it sounds good, but in practice, we see otherwise.
I might add, Afghanistan is largely populated by illiterate cave men.

What percentage of Afghans do you think are opposed to the US invasion of their country?

What percentage of the US population would actively support armed rebellion in response to passage of any gun control legislation seriously proposed by any member of congress over the last twenty years?

Name any guerrilla war won without support of the population?

TE


Da_Dweeb

climber
May 31, 2013 - 10:23pm PT
Woah Now..Settel down Pretty Pony

Credit: Da_Dweeb
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 31, 2013 - 10:58pm PT
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
May 31, 2013 - 11:49pm PT


 Why wouldn't they just go through with it after all… They have their guns!!?!!?!

I thought guns were supposed to make you a real man….

Except when it comes to actually acting like one with your words and deeds.
johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Jun 1, 2013 - 02:43am PT
_
Post something real

Read your own words much?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jun 8, 2013 - 12:23pm PT
How could that be? Obama said 90% of the country wants to crack down on guns and gun owners.
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Jun 8, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
Don't argue with the gunNUTS. They have been indoctrinated.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 8, 2013 - 06:50pm PT
Insurers Refuse To Cover Kansas Schools Where Teachers Carry Guns Because It’s Too Risky
By Aviva Shen on Jul 8, 2013 at 10:00 am


In the wake of the Newtown massacre, several states passed laws to allow school officials to carry firearms on campus, arguing that more guns would keep students safe. Insurance companies apparently disagree now that these laws are beginning to take effect. In Kansas, where the law kicked in July 1, major insurers have deemed the new policy too risky and are refusing to cover schools that arm their employees.
Des Moines-based EMC Insurance, which covers 85 to 90 percent of Kansas school districts, has a longstanding policy of denying coverage to schools that arm employees, and they seem unlikely to change it to accommodate Kansas’ new law. Two smaller insurance firms that cover the remaining 10 percent of Kansas schools are also adopting the same policy. Insurers say the risk of giving guns to anyone but law enforcement in a building full of children would make a school’s coverage much more expensive.
“We’ve been writing school business for almost 40 years, and one of the underwriting guidelines we follow for schools is that any on-site armed security should be provided by uniformed, qualified law enforcement officers,” EMC executive Mick Lovell told USA Today.
While no Kansas schools have thus far taken advantage of the new law, districts all over the country started encouraging and even requiring teachers to carry weapons after the Newtown shooting. Over the weekend, a school district in Newcomerstown, Ohio, announced that they would allow employees to carry guns starting in the 2013 school year. The selected employees will undergo tactical training and get certified by the Sheriff’s department.
A week after the Newtown shooting in December, the National Rifle Association pushed for more guns in schools, arguing that “gun-free zones” attract killers. However, as the insurers recognize, arming teachers and custodians poses a far greater danger. Nor do more weapons do much to stop gunmen from doing harm; Columbine High School, the site of one of the most deadly shootings in U.S. history, had an armed guard. Most gunmen wreak havoc in just a few minutes, which would require an armed staffer to have a lightning-fast response time to disarm the shooter. Indeed, even gun shows require aficionados to check their weapons at the door for safety reasons.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/07/08/2262861/insurers-kansas-armed-teachers-risk/
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