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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 28, 2013 - 05:30pm PT
I was threatened with a chain saw once.

We are talking a band aid on a dry scab here. WHY do YOU think the brady check is interested SPECIFICALLY in hispanics?

Do you think a third world influence culturally here has something to do with those homicide numbers in a large way? Knowing full well that is the way it is in their home cutures? I can tell you directly, that betwen where i am and the bay area, most defnitly, that is the case.

and as a pre-emptive move,, im NOT talking about those that migrate here to be Americans, rather those that migrate here to bring their culture here.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 28, 2013 - 05:43pm PT
HUMANS have it in their make up, yes indeed.. Just anger a mother of a small child by threatening said child, and youll most likely see that beast emerge. Love, and hate strike that beast and so does want and lust. Whats not to understand about that.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 28, 2013 - 05:46pm PT
But now your saying it in someone else's culture.

Why would you need to make a distinction if it's in our as well.

BTW, equating the desire of a woman to protect your children with the desire of a man to commit violent crime is ridiculous.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 28, 2013 - 05:48pm PT
many cultures are FAR worse than ours. That includes any and all central and south American countries. The epicenter of homicide.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 28, 2013 - 05:49pm PT
just for you mono. since you obvioulsy missed me qualifying that further.



"Love, and hate strike that beast and so does want and lust. Whats not to understand about that."
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 28, 2013 - 05:50pm PT
And since it's worse somewhere else, we shouldn't make changes here.


And just for you Anderson:

Equating a mother's care for a child to violent crime is funny as hell.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 28, 2013 - 05:51pm PT
I was threatened with a chain saw once.

So what? I've been threatened with 4 guns, 2 bats, a few hammer, fists, a broom, a car, skateboards, and a fork. The ONLY ones that were likely to kill me from a split second lapse in judgement... the guns.

How hard is it to get away from someone with a chainsaw? I mean YOU did it, so it couldn't be THAT hard, right? I don't hear of many chainsaw murders.

WHY do YOU think the brady check is interested SPECIFICALLY in hispanics?

Just guessing here... maybe to cross reference names and sh#t with Mexican authorities?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 28, 2013 - 05:53pm PT
Mono,what "changes".. resticting the rights of law-abiding innocent peoples liberties? Then no.

Now YOU answer my question: Do you think third world influences here are responsible for much of the homicides?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 28, 2013 - 05:53pm PT
Actually,

WHY does the form specifically ask if a gun buyer is LATINO or HISPANIC anyway?

WHY would it matter?

Hispanics who are US citizens own guns legally just like any other race or ethnicity.

So to me, the FFL form does seem to be discriminatory.


Here is what a PRO gun website says about it, and I think they bring up this point very well.


]Where previously the form asked a general question about the purchasers’ race (ethnicity), the section now requires Americans in the Hispanic community to designate themselves as such.

Curiously, the form’s “Race” section has been divided into two parts. Section 10a, now labeled “Ethnicity,” requires you to check off whether you’re “Hispanic or Latino” or “Not Hispanic or Latino.” The new 4473 document’s 10b section no longer includes Hispanics or Latinos as a race.

Boasting a US population density of 16.3%, Hispanics, in general, encompass a large portion of the gun owning community. Given this fact, the change, that went into effect early July with little to no press or fanfare, has left many gun owners baffled as to why the ATF is singling out Hispanics.

Evan Nappen, General Counsel of Pro-Gun New Hampshire, reported on the alteration as a blatant form of racism, asking, “What if the “ethnicity” question demanded “Jew or Not a Jew”? Would that “ethnicity” question be acceptable? Like the Hispanic/Latino question, it is offensive and not necessary. It has nothing whatsoever to do with one’s qualification to purchase a gun.”



Infowars’ Matt Williams asked a Houston ATF public relations spokesperson why the change had gone into effect and why it specifically targeted Hispanic and Latino Americans. The ATF told us the change had been implemented by White House order of the Obama Administration’s Office of Management and Budget and has been ordered across the board nationally to be carried with all federal agencies.

Further investigation provided no answers as to why the minority group has been singled out, and no conclusive evidence shows that any other ATF form, or government agency for that matter, has adopted the protocol. Even the form licensing home manufacture of



firearms/class 3 weapons (i.e. machine guns, suppressors, etc.) does not include this stipulation.[
/http://usahitman.com/arphgo/]
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 28, 2013 - 05:55pm PT
When people come here from third world countries, they are often in the lowest socio-economic groups here. They wind up in high population density areas, which is the single largest factor in murder rates.

I suppose since they love their children so much, then they must have a strong desire to be criminals even more. Anderson logic.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 28, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
Do you think third world influences here are responsible for much of the homicides?

Not specifically "third world influences" but poverty certainly. That and the fact that anyone can easily send their nephews to the store to buy 2 guns a week.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 28, 2013 - 06:04pm PT
jeees mono,, when you get real, lemme know..

And Wes, we never needed DHS unmarked helos here in the past. We now have daily flights.. Due to a third world influnce ( cartels and thier branchlings)


edit: And Norton, just by a rough survey between the bay area news and my local news , 65% of serious crimes being perpetrated are by third world type people. That being recorded as either hispanic or non hispanic like the brady check does. My own survey recorded in a planner. Over a years worth of periodic news reports in there, certainly not ALL but a good sampling.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 28, 2013 - 06:10pm PT
we never needed DHS unmarked helos here in the past. We now have daily flights

Yeah, the world changes. Crazy eh? If you look back far enough we didn't need borders or border patrols because we didn't even have "Mexicans" here in the past.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 28, 2013 - 06:11pm PT
Well it sure seems to me that the Obama administration agrees with Ron.

After all, they added the Hispanic/ Latino question to the FFL form.

Obama is clearly targeting Hispanics as border arrests and deportations are at the highest level in US history right now.

This proves Obama is a rascist, hates brown people.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 28, 2013 - 06:14pm PT
That may be Norton,, but we just let 5000 of em loose from jail at the same time-- quite confusing ..


and Yeah Wes thngs change- now there are parts of AZ you and i can not go see..I would have never dreamt that as a child. Closing week end of the quail season, my brother was denied access to a canyon he hunts by Border patrols on quads due to it being to dangerous from armed "immigrants"..
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 28, 2013 - 06:19pm PT
same ol out of context bullsyt i wont be responding at.

Like i said mono, you dont identify yourself and you parrot the same ol..

Your not real..
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 28, 2013 - 06:20pm PT
Several people here on ST know me, Anderson. I don't know you. Should I conclude you are not real?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 28, 2013 - 06:22pm PT
Good point on the letting go of low level detainees,

The House Republicans cut funding to that agency.

So unnecessary but they control all spending.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 28, 2013 - 06:24pm PT
Norton,, its a dem and repub thing. More minions for votes and control over- one side or the other.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 28, 2013 - 06:28pm PT
No Ron,

Repeat, the house Repubs controll ALL gov spending

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