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Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 9, 2013 - 08:16pm PT
TGT is onto something. Common sense tells you that, if you can see what's happening.

By buying a rifle legally, he wasn't proving anything. Kelly is a guy we can trust with the keys to the Space Shuttle ( or at least we used to, before Obama out-sourced our manned-space program to Russia ). He's been checked out six ways to Sunday - and passed - by NASA. We'd damn well better be able to trust him with a small-calibre rifle, like an AR. And he knew that.

Seeing how he's proving nothing, making a point could not have possibly his reason for buying those guns. Therefore his change of heart had to have been for some other reason. Being "outed" is the best reason I can think of for Kelly cancelling the purchase.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 9, 2013 - 08:18pm PT
The Sportsman Channel says it's deeply saddened by the shooting death in northwestern Montana of one of its TV hosts who traveled the world in search of big game and shared his adventures on his program "A Rifleman's Journal."

The company in a statement early Saturday said it will miss Gregory G. Rodriguez's "thoughtfulness, candor and dedication to encourage a safe and enjoyable outdoor experience for all." Police said Rodriguez, 43, of Sugar Land, Texas, died Thursday in the town of Whitefish when he was shot by another man in an apparent jealous rage while the TV personality visited the shooter's wife.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 9, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
The photo comes from his own facebook page, Chaz.

When you come up with proof (or even a claim from the photographer) someone surreptitiously took his photo, then he used it on his facebook page to create a cover story, we'll take you and TGT's spin seriously.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Mar 9, 2013 - 09:11pm PT
Why are we worried about any of the reasons some upstanding, law abiding citizen might want a background check? Really, the ease with which you might purchase a firearm depends upon where you live.

You really want to prove something? Go buy an illegal full-auto from a drug runner, and post that sh#t up on your facebook page just to show how "easy" it is. Legal sales are a snooze fest, regardless of the weapon type or the motivation.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 9, 2013 - 09:16pm PT
He's not against how easy it is. He's advocating every purchaser should go thru one, including private sales.

Scary to think of people buying guns like these without a background check at a gun show or the Internet. We really need to close the gun show and private seller loop hole.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 9, 2013 - 11:05pm PT
If you really want to prove a point, let's see someone like Charlie Sheen ( drug abuser ) or Jesse Jackson Jr ( serious head case ) pass a background check. That would actually expose real background check shortcomings. A U.S. Navy / Space Shuttle pilot legally buying a common small-calibre rifle proves nothing.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 10, 2013 - 06:51am PT
Again, Chaz, the point was to show how easy it is to get a background check and that everyone, including privates purchasers, should go thru one.

Scary to think of people buying guns like these without a background check at a gun show or the Internet. We really need to close the gun show and private seller loop hole.
jghedge

climber
Mar 10, 2013 - 10:33am PT
"Gabby Gifford's husband signing the paperwork to buy a ,45 auto pistol and an AR-15 at Diamondback Police Supply in Tuscon, AZ yesterday."

"Now he says he really didn't want it."


Yes, and this guy really wanted to blow up the plane

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/03/tsa-agent-gets-past-two-security-layers-with-hidden-fake-bomb/



Every time you think TGT can't post something stupider than he already has...he proves you wrong.


TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 10, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
Ted Gundy, an 86-year-old World Wat [sic] II sniper, was awarded the "black hat," one of the highest awards of the marksmanship unit, during his visit to Ft. Benning, Ga. He got a few other surprises along the way.

He was presented with an exact replica of the rifle he used during the Battles of the Buldge [sic] and Bastogne, a 1903 Springfield A4 sniper rifle. It must have seemed like old home week as he hit the target - three hits for three shots - at three hundred yards - three football fields.

He was then given the opportunity to try modern equipment on a target 1,000 yards away. The Remington 700 is, according to the video, "one of the most accurate rifles in the world."
At 1,000 yards, for every mile per hour of crosswind, the bullet moves 10 inches. Just like with the WWII-era Springfield at 300 yards, Gundy hit three for three with the Remington at 1,000.



Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 10, 2013 - 10:08pm PT
Quite the experience in those old hands eh TGT! a five inch group at 1000 yards!
jghedge

climber
Mar 10, 2013 - 10:44pm PT
Still can't get over the karmic quality of this - I guess what Ron Paul said about the Iraq sniper getting murdered at a TX gun range is true, "you live by the sword, you die by the sword".



Your daily dose of FREEDOM


http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2013-03-08/mont-dot-man-kills-sportsman-channel-host-then-self


HELENA, Mont. (AP) — A northwestern Montana man shot and killed the host of the Sportsman Channel show "A Rifleman's Journal" in an apparent jealous rage while the TV personality was visiting the shooter's wife, police said Friday.

Wayne Bengston, 41, then beat his wife, took his 2-year-old son to a relative's house and drove to his home about 25 miles away in West Glacier, where he killed himself, Whitefish Police Chief Bill Dial said.

"It's pretty much an open-and-closed case. Homicide and suicide," Dial said.

Police identified the shooting victim as Gregory G. Rodriguez, 43, of Sugar Land, Texas. Bengston's wife told police that Rodriguez was in town on business and visiting her at her mother's house in Whitefish when her husband showed up Thursday at about 10:30 p.m.

Rodriguez and the woman, who works for a firearms manufacturer in the Flathead Valley, met at a trade show and struck up a casual relationship that police do not believe was romantic, Dial said.

She and Rodriguez were sitting at the kitchen table, talking over a glass of wine, when Bengston entered the house and shot Rodriguez, Dial said.

He then beat his wife on the face and head, most likely with the pistol, he said. She was treated at a hospital and released.

"I think it was a jealous husband, but this is all conjecture," Dial said.

After the shooting was reported, Flathead County sheriff's deputies found Bengston's truck parked in his driveway. Efforts by a police SWAT team to contact Bengston inside the house were unsuccessful, and officers found his body with what appeared to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head, police said.

Besides appearing on TV, Rodriguez was the founder and CEO of Global Adventure Outfitters. According to the company's website, he was an editor at Shooting Times Magazine and a contributing editor at Petersen's Hunting, Guns & Ammo and Dangerous Game.

He was a mortgage banker before founding Global Adventure Outfitters and has hunted in 21 countries, the website says.

"A Rifleman's Journal" tracks Rodriguez's hunting travels to exotic locations, according to a Sportsman Channel description.

He has {had} a wife and two children, it says.

A woman who answered the phone at Global Adventure Outfitters confirmed that Rodriguez had been in Montana but said the organization would not be making a statement at the time.

Bengston worked for the U.S. Forest Service, Dial said.





YEE HAW!!!!






mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 10, 2013 - 10:46pm PT
By buying a rifle legally, he wasn't proving anything.

He proved that gun nut blogs would pick up on the story and try to blow it into something it wasn't... which is the context in which it was presented here... until it was set straight... after which the gun nuts back peddled, as usual.
jghedge

climber
Mar 10, 2013 - 10:56pm PT
The incident referred to above

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/04/us/chris-kyle-american-sniper-author-reported-killed.html

From his perch in hide-outs above battle-scarred Iraq, Chris Kyle earned a reputation as one of America’s deadliest military snipers. The Pentagon said his skills with a rifle so terrorized Iraqi insurgents during his four tours of duty that they nicknamed him the “Devil of Ramadi” and put a bounty on his head.

The insurgents never collected, and he returned home to become a best-selling author and a mentor to other veterans, sometimes taking them shooting at a gun range near his Texas home as a kind of therapy to salve battlefield scars, friends said. One such veteran was Eddie Ray Routh, a 25-year-old Marine who had served tours in Iraq and Haiti.

But on Saturday, far from a war zone, Mr. Routh turned on Mr. Kyle, 38, and a second man, Chad Littlefield, 35, shortly after they arrived at an exclusive shooting range near Glen Rose, Tex., about 50 miles southwest of Fort Worth, law enforcement authorities said Sunday. The officials said that for reasons that were still unclear, Mr. Routh shot and killed both men with a semiautomatic handgun before fleeing in a pickup truck belonging to Mr. Kyle.



Ironically, gun nuts have made the homeland as dangerous, or more, than actual battlefields.
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Mar 11, 2013 - 06:40am PT
ronically, gun nuts

wow. you stepped across that line.


Called the guys who fight for your freedom names. I could see a Canadian disrespecting your troops, or an American after Vietnam, but today?
You open your mouth enough and your true colors will show through.
Way to make your mother proud!




Well you can not deny that the deadliest snipper in American history was not killed on a foriegn battlefield but right in the good 'ol United States of Gunmerica.


The point is, this guy loves his American lifestyle. If he didn't, he'd move. But he isn't smart enough to appreciate the guys who provide it for him. If deep down inside he doesn't get that, arguments relating to that are equally void and non-nonsensical. It doesn't matter what he loves, he hates the hand that feeds him. He's freeloading, no different than an illegal alien.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 11, 2013 - 06:48am PT
Well you can not deny that the deadliest snipper in American history was not killed on a foriegn battlefield but right in the good 'ol United States of Gunmerica.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Mar 11, 2013 - 07:58am PT
So a veteran sniper was killed by another clearly troubled veteran and you as#@&%es want to spin that as a problem with american gun culture? What a bunch of dumbshits. You ought to be calling for better health services to take care of the people who defend our freedom to make idiotic statements like that.

My coworker,s son, after serving three tours in Afganistan unharmed, got hit by a drunk driver. And yet some of you remain silent on that claiming that kind of thing is "just an accident".

So go on and spin the sh#t however you want.
jghedge

climber
Mar 11, 2013 - 08:05am PT
"But he isn't smart enough to appreciate the guys who provide it for him."

Who, soon enough, will have to take action against the gun nuts, who are ruining the very freedom you claim our soldiers need to be defending, by turning our country into a wild west shooting gallery where no one is safe anymore. Not even the Army's best sniper.
jghedge

climber
Mar 11, 2013 - 08:21am PT
"You ought to be calling for better health services to take care of the people who defend our freedom to make idiotic statements like that."

The sniper knew the guy was disturbed, he brought him to the shooting range as some sort of "therapy". He put guns in the disturbed guy's hands anyway.

And sorry, but shooting people in Iraq isn't "defending our freedom". We never should have been there in the first place, it was the worst mistake in US foreign policy history, worse than Vietnam. You're just as wrong about that as you are about guns.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Mar 11, 2013 - 08:31am PT
Take action? You have no guns. Good luck with that. You,re out of your f*#king mind, and it,s clearly just a matter of time until you go off the deep end and start shooting people you percieve as gun nuts.
jghedge

climber
Mar 11, 2013 - 08:38am PT
"...it,s clearly just a matter of time until you go off the deep end and start shooting people you percieve as gun nuts."

Because that's the only solution you're capable of conceiving - start shooting people.

People like you are exactly why guns need to be (and eventually will have to be) outlawed - just like they already are in other countries who've looked at the way it is here, and want no part of it.
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