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dirtbag

climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 08:22pm PT
All of the people there were creepy.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
Jun 10, 2014 - 08:26pm PT
At least they were far enough out of it that they killed themselves. Now at least there need be no concern that some of their wacko sympathizers aren't encouraged to take hostages to get them a get out of jail swap deal. Eh!

crankster

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 08:28pm PT
they were denied access because they were 'creepy'.

Not true. They were there for at least 2 days. Even gave an interview.
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 08:29pm PT
Basically, it can be back traced to Fox News for inciting subversive propaganda

Sean Hannity, in particular. There's blood on his hands.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jun 10, 2014 - 08:36pm PT
I think it's funny some still think there's a difference between any channels in MSM (i.e. Fox news vs. NBC). Next you say you think there's a difference between the Red and Blue teams you're allowed to "vote" on.
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Jun 10, 2014 - 08:39pm PT
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-urges-national-soul-searching-over-gun-violence-221816460.html
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 08:42pm PT
bluering said
I think it's unquestionable that the guy stopped further people being shot. Him having a gun distracted the shooters.

So you're saying that having a concealed carry permit keeps people safe by encouraging hostile shooters to shoot you instead of someone else? That seems like an interesting feat which could have been accomplished with or without a gun. In any case I defer to your opinion since you were there and have a firm grasp of all the facts. Also you should wave around guns wherever you are to ensure that you get shot instead of someone else as the founders intended.
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 08:53pm PT
I think it's funny some still think there's a difference between any channels in MSM (i.e. Fox news vs. NBC)

jstan

climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 09:30pm PT
The Constitution as a principal talking point seems to have disappeared.

Why?
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Jun 10, 2014 - 09:35pm PT
We,re well past the constitution and embroiled in vicious rhetoric.

Or maybe that,s viscous rhetoric. Hmm.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Jun 10, 2014 - 09:37pm PT
We,re well past the constitution and embroiled in vicious rhetoric.

It isn't the rhetoric that bothers me, it's the bullets...
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 09:44pm PT
Ron posted
Seems California has WAY more school shootings than Nevada.

I'm sure that's true. Nevada also has less than 2.8 million people to California's 38.3 million. California has a gun homicide rate of 3.4 to Nevada's 3.1 meaning that your 50% more reported per capita gun ownership isn't doing a damn thing for your homicide rate. #StillSuckingAtStatistics
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 10, 2014 - 09:51pm PT
And stop those rejects from bringing under aged girls into Nevada to work as prostitutes on the streets fer crissakes

You can't argue with someone with no morals, no decency, no sense of shame.
7SacredPools

Trad climber
Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Jun 11, 2014 - 05:22am PT
The more shootings there are, the more the pro gun lobby will dig in it's heels claiming, "See! We need MORE guns to protect ourselves from bad guys!"
And of course, it's about easy access. The more guns there are, the more shootings there will be. Intentional, and unintentional.
The first time I ever saw an armed guard in a grocery store was in Vegas, years ago. I asked him if this was normal. "Yup", he replied. I didn't feel safer, I was creeped out.

I visit the U.S.regularly to visit my daughter in San Francisco, and my good friends in Utah and Oregon, but if this open carry movement spreads I'll be re-thinking travelling there. As will millions of other tourists.
You guys can just shoot things out amongst yourselves. The rest of the civilized world will be shaking its head in disbelief.

Garry
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 11, 2014 - 05:24am PT
Spot on, Garry. So much ignorance in the US.

The Rude Pundit's take:

Note: The Rude Pundit took it upon himself to subtly revise an editorial by Open Carry Texas’s CJ Grisham to reflect what Grisham is really talking about. See if you can spot the differences.) After my false arrest last year while hiking with my son near Temple, I was awoken to the fact that Texas isn’t as penis friendly as its reputation suggests. I started Open Penis Carry Texas to spread this message after being inspired by the overwhelming support my case brought me. I never realized, however, how difficult this fight would become or how low the penis control lobby would go. I also never anticipated the kind of friendly ejaculation we would come under. As part of our mission, we have worked hard to remove the stigma of penises in society. Beginning at a young age, our children are inundated with educational propaganda proclaiming that penises are bad. Night after night, the media furthers this narrative by sensationalizing the worst aspects of humanity. The entertainment industry relies on hype and inaccurate stereotypes of penis owners. The penis control lobby engages in emotional brainwashing to further its attempts at castrating the American people. Research has shown that open penis carry deters crime, which is why we believe it so important. As with any newly formed group, we’ve had our growing pains...We’ve learned that with great success comes even greater opposition. Enter Moms Demand Action for Penis Sense in America and its media surrogates, which lie, distort, and manipulate their way to the heart of their base and sunshine patriot penis owners. At a demonstration in Fort Worth in which we carried long cocks into a Jack in the Box, no employees hid in a freezer or called 911...After an event in the Dallas area, we sought and received permission from the manager of a local Chipotle to sit down and eat. Contrary to reports, no one in the restaurant was frightened or alarmed by the presence of our peckers; in fact, we had two uniformed police officers in our 10-member group. We haven’t been to Target with penises since January... A few weeks ago, before the National Dick Association issued a statement that called our efforts “weird” and “not neighborly,” we had stopped carrying long cocks into businesses -- even though we had been given approval to enter in nearly every instance...We will gladly continue patronizing those stores but will not be taking our penises. The pro-prick elitists who believe our rights are subject to licensing and should be hidden from society quickly joined the penis control extremists in a chorus of dissent. Nearly every email we got from so-called defenders of the Second Amendment demanded that we hide our penises because “they scare people” or that we are hurting “the cause”... If the NDA is serious about getting open penis carry passed in Texas, we will work with them, but not for them. The NDA doesn’t hold the patent or copyright on penis rights... We will continue fighting in our own way to make Texas the 45th state to legalize the right to carry dicks openly and 31st state to do so without a license.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 11, 2014 - 07:03am PT
So you're saying that having a concealed carry permit keeps people safe by encouraging hostile shooters to shoot you instead of someone else?

Bluering?
Binks

climber
Uranus
Jun 11, 2014 - 07:23am PT
I can't wait to see the gun nuts cry as their guns are taken away, that day is coming. Or they think they will "resist" LOL.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 11, 2014 - 07:42am PT
that is ONLY due to LasVegas

Good point, Ron. Nevada would be OK if it wasn't for... Nevada?
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 11, 2014 - 07:48am PT
Ron posted
that is ONLY due to LasVegas,, which is CHUCKED FULL of recent CAL transplants

It's true. If you only count people born in Nevada who never left, don't live in Las Vegas, own guns and have never killed anyone in your sample it is pretty clear that guns save lives.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/police-man-shoots-wounds-woman-nev-hospital

Oh look a Nevadan not in Las Vegas bought a gun specifically to go shoot his paralyzed wife in the hospital. IF ONLY SHE HAD BEEN ARMED!
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 11, 2014 - 08:15am PT
A bunch of easily manipulated FOOLS on this site, thats for sure

....

There are some of the most ignorant IDIOTS to ever draw a breath right here on ST.

Do tell.
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