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Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 27, 2013 - 04:14pm PT
Heston did his best to stand for what he thought was great about America, and stood proudly against racial discrimination.

Heston was a political figure that took a strong position on a controversial issue. He's fair game for satire.

You are free to disagree with him about guns, but Carey, in his ridicule, has offended a lot of people. And comparing Heston to Hitler?

You've demonstrated my point on selective outrage pretty well with that one.

Nobody is comparing Heston to Hitler other than pointing out that they are both dead. Which is the theme of the latest flavor of political correctness from the right: It's now "offensive" to criticize dead pople.

So now that we've redefined a new type of "offensive" language, I'm sure we'll be hearing all about any breaches of decorum next time Hannity or Limbaugh has something to say about (deceased) FDR.

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 27, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
The Neo-Feudalists believe that ony nobility grants the right to arms.

Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Mar 27, 2013 - 04:40pm PT
Okay guys, to begin with I have expressed no outrage, simply made observations. And yes I know some people who are offended by the sendup of Heston. Personally I don't find Carey's piece amusing, but if it floats your boat you can have it.

And I never said said texting while driving is "tantamount to murder." What I said was that texting while driving, or driving while otherwise impaired such as being drunk, is a conscious choice so if you kill someone as a result it is murder. I know a lot of folks would call it a simple accident. I see it differently since one persons death came about because another person chose to act illegally.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 27, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
Ksolem,, so many sheeples so stupid, MUST be micro managed to not text and drive at the same time. And people buy off on that. Yes, texting and driving amount to murder through stupidity. Stupid should hurt.


meanwhile:m Carrey Admits He Has An Armed Bodyguard
rightwingnews.com ^ | 26 March 2013 | John Hawkins


Edited on 3/27/2013
After making news for doing a tired “humor” video mocking gun owners, whom he also called (bleep) Jim Carrey announced today on twitter that his armed bodyguard “doesn’t have a hundred rounds in his clip.”
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 27, 2013 - 04:51pm PT
He pulled a "jane(hanoi) fonda" Coz..
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 27, 2013 - 04:51pm PT
Heston was an actor. He got paid to pretend he was somebody else. That hardly makes him a hero.

Heston and Carey have basically the same job, except that Carey at least writes a lot of his own stuff.

When Heston signed up for the NRA gig, he was either a complete sham or a complete sucker.

The NRA is not a rights organization, they are a lobby for an industry.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Mar 27, 2013 - 04:52pm PT
Yeah Coz. I'm done (once again) with Hedges foolishness. My list of album credits as a recording engineers is more than 400, many of which were platinum hits by superstars. Most of these people, when they are out and about, have armed guards and many pack themselves. And the best security is rarely seen.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Mar 27, 2013 - 05:01pm PT
Here's the post which you are attempting to quote.

And how many people are intentionally killed with cars?

"Are DUI, speeding, reckless driving, texting while driving, using a cell phone while driving - in other words the causes of most accidents - not intentional acts?

The driver made a choice to put their own and other people's well being at risk. That is intentional. Of course I understand that such a driver is not choosing the specific person they will harm or kill, so instead of murder one they should get manslaughter, but the majority of car accidents are caused by the decisions and actions of drivers.

I suppose you could actually argue that cars don't kill, drivers do..."
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 27, 2013 - 05:07pm PT
Legal scholars already had this conversation, a long time ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malice_aforethought

..along with a bunch of other terms.

There is no simple definition of "murder" or "negligence" ... which is basically what you guys are debating.

There has been a gazillion pages of arguments written trying to define these things.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 27, 2013 - 05:13pm PT
It is ludicrous [...]

Speaking of...

I lived next door to Chris Bridges in LA and I never saw any security. I'd see him at the nearby grocery store sometimes by himself.

Some of his friends were pretty big dudes, but they were all very polite and smoked a lot of weed. Not exactly "secret service" types.

Anybody who lives in West LA runs into celebrities occasionally. They don't have security with them most of the time. Danny Devito once bumped into my shopping cart at the Pavillions in Beverly Hills. I didn't realize it was him until he spoke. He was with his daughter, and I watched them get in his car and drive away without anyone else.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Mar 27, 2013 - 05:17pm PT
WHAT? NO, IT ISN'T!!!!

Are you crazy?

Dude I did a search of my old posts for "texting while driving" and copied and pasted it.

That's it word for word the exact post from Feb 2013.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 27, 2013 - 05:31pm PT
(Hrrrmmmmmmfffff ! cough cough ,,chorlte,, guffaw,,, )


Coffee on the keboard,, thanks Coz...
WBraun

climber
Mar 27, 2013 - 05:43pm PT
Ho man ....

Ain't this somethin!

Joe is working on a film edit right now.

Coz is taking a break from his latest Hollywood film rig.

Me .... I just got back from doing a few pitches.

Instead of meeting back in the C4 lot like we used to and talk sh!t we do it online now.

LOL

Miss you guys in the flesh ... :-)

I think I'm gonna get a bushmaster rifle for those "close quarter" ambush squirrels that might attack me.

Guns rooool ..... droool ..... :-)
WBraun

climber
Mar 27, 2013 - 05:49pm PT
LOL ....
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 27, 2013 - 05:51pm PT


Violence rools, guns are cool and we've got guns, in our school



Yeah, hedge is a sh#t slinger... but when is the last time you saw him get all butt hurt when someone gives it back?

Hedge, stay out of my threads... ahaaaaahaahahahaaaaa!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 27, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
Is the security on the sets, or is it personal body guards following them around at the grocery store? HUGE difference.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 27, 2013 - 06:22pm PT
I used to work in the same building where Oprah had an office.

Maple Street in Beverly Hills.

My coworkers would see her from time to time.

I only saw her once, from a a distance, but many of my coworkers had seen her, walked past her in the hallway, rode in the elevator with her.

She's a billionare - celebrity doesn't get any bigger than Oprah.

As far as I know, she was never alone, but she did not have an army surrounding her either.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 27, 2013 - 06:26pm PT
It's both now, especially in less safe countries...

We weren't talking about those either...

Like I said Joe doesn't know all this because he's editing porn in Simi

nice!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 27, 2013 - 06:32pm PT
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Mar 27, 2013 - 07:18pm PT
Credit: S.Leeper
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