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donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 17, 2013 - 06:10pm PT
Once again America will become the laughing stock of the First World industrialized countries.

We can't provide single payer universal health care for our citizens.

We continue with the barbaric, ineffective death penalty.

We refuse to make common sense adjustments to our gun policies.

There need to be strict term limits for Congress and for the Supreme Court.

Service to one's country should not mean a secure, high paying job leveraged by homage to lobbies and to intrinsically evil organizations such as the NRA.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Apr 17, 2013 - 06:13pm PT
Ron wrote:
I just listened to Obama turn it into nothing more than a partisan attack - what a surprise.

Donini included :)
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 17, 2013 - 06:19pm PT
Pyro....a little offshore travel might change your perspective. Ron can barely get himself out of SW Utah.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Apr 17, 2013 - 06:20pm PT
Pyro....a little offshore travel might change your perspective. Ron can barely get himself out of SW Utah.


Hahaha... Deseret.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Apr 17, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
a little offshore travel might change your perspective
sure thing donini i just need money.

get me sponsor


i'll be better than any trustafartian...
moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
Apr 17, 2013 - 06:29pm PT
I am starting to think that those government officials that are 100% pro guns need to watch out, because when the American people finally wake up, they will be armed and they will use those guns against them.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 17, 2013 - 07:05pm PT
Should psychotropic users have the same restrictions as those applicable to alcohol users?

Nope. Totally different drugs with totally different effects. One has been tested for millenia, the other about 30-40 years.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 17, 2013 - 07:05pm PT
You mean 5 Democrats.

Including Dingy Harry
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 17, 2013 - 07:10pm PT
Ron.....take me climbing, i'll relate some of my SF adventures.....no hand guns just bring your rope gun.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 17, 2013 - 07:12pm PT
Harry Reid votes against the bill.

That tells you all you need to know about it.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 17, 2013 - 07:23pm PT
It's a date Ron....i'll look you up after my month (May) in Yosemite.
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Apr 17, 2013 - 08:05pm PT
Nope. Totally different drugs with totally different effects. One has been tested for millenia, the other about 30-40 years.


So they still get to drive?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 17, 2013 - 08:15pm PT
jghedge writes ( as to why he thinks Reid voted with the Republicans on the gun bill ):

"On procedural grounds, in order to preserve the right to bring the measure back up.

Educating yourself, actually, is the way to find out "all you need to know about it".



Now that is the exact type of playing-politics sh#t we're all sick of. Sick of it. If the bill is good, vote YES. If it stinks, vote the other way. Reid's vote was just chickensh#t, and just another example of his perpetuating politics-as-usual, which we've all had enough of.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 17, 2013 - 08:16pm PT
SW Utah? WTF are you talking about Jim?

I agreed with most of your 3:10 post and then you go and confuse me with a nevadan taxidermist!





You'd better get the Nose in a diaper done before the oldtimer's gets bad. ;)
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Apr 17, 2013 - 08:21pm PT
Now that is the exact type of playing-politics sh#t we're all sick of. Sick of it.

Of course, filibustering so it would require 60 votes is perfectly fine.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 17, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
The Senate could do away with the fillibuster rule completely, with just a majority vote.

It wasn't that long ago when it took 67 votes to break a fillibuster. Somehow, bills were passed then.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 17, 2013 - 08:28pm PT
this has never been a high priority subject with the general populace.

The vote just reflects that, like it should



http://www.gallup.com/poll/161813/few-guns-immigration-nation-top-problems.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=All%20Gallup%20Headlines%20-%20Politics
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Apr 17, 2013 - 08:29pm PT
And filibusters were used very infrequently then, Chaz. Now they happen all the time.

And yea, that 'simple majority' solution to change the filibuster rules isn't called the 'nuclear' option for no good reason. No one wants to go that route.
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Apr 17, 2013 - 08:30pm PT
46 Senators have just shown that they believe their jobs are more important than saving lives. I can't believe that I would ever have voted Republican, but Sen. Toomey's courage has assured my vote for his re-election.

All the rest of the partisan sh#t is just that, less taxes for less services, or more taxes for more services, its all a wash, nothing but opinion to justify whether one or the the other is right. I couldn't give a damn about abortion or gay marriage, won't affect my life, so this issue is the only one where we can be 100% sure to make a positive improvement in the lives of Americans. 46 Senators are going to answer soon enough.

TE
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 17, 2013 - 08:32pm PT
Nope. Totally different drugs with totally different effects. One has been tested for millenia, the other about 30-40 years.


So they still get to drive?

Sure why not? It doesn't affect your coordination. I bet a person on Prozac could kill way more people than a drunk fuker with the same weapons.

Let's just make sure they aren't amassing an arsenal and keep an eye out for personality changes for the first few critical months they are on new medications... at least until we know how they are affected.
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