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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Sep 20, 2013 - 01:02pm PT
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Highest homicide rates are in citys and states with the most gun regulation..
LA, Bay area, Chicago, DC so on and so forth.
Wow, interesting... those are also some of the densest population centers in the country. It is almost as if violent crime is correlated with population density. I wonder if anyone has ever looked into that.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Sep 20, 2013 - 01:12pm PT
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strict gun regulations could have something to do with it, but that is far more speculative than the climatic impacts of anthropogenic CO2... and I'm sure we don't want to make a ASSumption based on such shaky data.
You know, there is this place across the Atlantic with even stricter gun regulations. Their murder rates are way way way below anywhere in the US with similar population densities, despite even higher violent crime rates. It is almost as if guns make killing easier. I wonder if anyone has looked into that.
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frank wyman
Mountain climber
montana
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Sep 20, 2013 - 02:15pm PT
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Sure seems to be a fair amount of Communists on this forum..
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Sep 20, 2013 - 03:14pm PT
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Well, we could go ahead and model the rest of our society after the place across the pond. I,ve been there. It,s nice.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Sep 22, 2013 - 12:09pm PT
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American guns
"To absorb the scale of the mayhem, it's worth trying to guess the death toll of all the wars in American history since the War of Independence began in 1775, and follow that by estimating the number killed by firearms in the US since the day that Robert F. Kennedy was shot in 1968 by a .22 Iver-Johnson handgun, wielded by Sirhan Sirhan. The figures from Congressional Research Service, plus recent statistics from icasualties.org, tell us that from the first casualties in the battle of Lexington to recent operations in Afghanistan, the toll is 1,171,177. By contrast, the number killed by firearms, including suicides, since 1968, according to the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention and the FBI, is 1,384,171.
That 212,994 more Americans lost their lives from firearms in the last 45 years than in all wars involving the US is a staggering fact, particularly when you place it in the context of the safety-conscious, "secondary smoke" obsessions that characterise so much of American life."
"Last week, Starbucks asked its American customers to please not bring their guns into the coffee shop. This is part of the company's concern about customer safety and follows a ban in the summer on smoking within 25 feet of a coffee shop entrance and an earlier ruling about scalding hot coffee. After the celebrated Liebeck v McDonald's case in 1994, involving a woman who suffered third-degree burns to her thighs, Starbucks complies with the Specialty Coffee Association of America's recommendation that drinks should be served at a maximum temperature of 82C."
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/21/american-gun-out-control-porter
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crankster
Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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Sep 22, 2013 - 02:15pm PT
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Gunnuts rule the day. Body count in DC, a paltry dozen or so, barely raises an eyebrow. No, we'll need a much higher body count to move on gun restrictions.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Sep 22, 2013 - 02:40pm PT
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Sep 22, 2013 - 05:24pm PT
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 22, 2013 - 05:39pm PT
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Looks like the Colorado City crossing guards,..
The next photo portrays a very well built piece (and I like the HK also, but drop the mag coupler. Throws the balance.)
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Sep 22, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Sep 22, 2013 - 09:02pm PT
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Ron....Colorado City or Colorado Springs, not much difference.
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GhoulweJ
Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
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Sep 22, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
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I made a 7SAUM for myself a couple weeks ago.
This will fill my freezer with meat for the year.
Precision build in a Surgeon 591 action:
Not sure why the photo is sideways.
Here I'm turning down the barrel prepping it for threads and chambering.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 22, 2013 - 09:47pm PT
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Latest US shooting spree ended,... by a good guy with a gun.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 23, 2013 - 02:26am PT
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A real climber's piece...
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Sep 23, 2013 - 10:50am PT
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Latest US shooting spree ended,... by a good guy with a gun.
Latest US shooting spree started...by a nutcase with a gun. Thanks, NRA.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Sep 23, 2013 - 11:33am PT
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Which one?
They Navy Yard? Cuz that should have been stopped by good guys with guns long before it even started.
The one in Chicago? Because that one wasn't stopped at all.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Sep 23, 2013 - 03:04pm PT
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Umerican hunting... the Americas of today...
"There has been a big increase in so-called "exotic hunting", where guests not only go after indigenous species such as wolves and bears, but also blast away at imported zebras and giraffes. Convenience is essential for the hedge-fund crowd. Most exotic hunts take place in ranches from which the animals can't escape (Texas has 600). Exotic hunters can shoot elephants from cars or from the backs of other elephants, sometimes the orphaned calves of the victims of previous hunts. For the truly lazy there is "just-in-time shooting", where animals are trained to turn up at certain hours, and "internet shooting", where you can guide the gun from your desk."
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 29, 2013 - 08:48pm PT
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Well Gary, you got the nutcase part right.
I doubt very much that the NRA likes the idea of such people owning guns. The problem lies with the difficulty of early diagnosis.
And wonder of wonder, from the liberal media 60 Minutes we just got a segment that criticizes the poor support that mental health gets here, and an expert points out that most of the mass killings in the past 7 years were perpetrated by the mentally ill that slipped through the cracks or got no help at all. He went on to add that if more resources are not devoted to treatment that part of the cost will be more of these incidents.
Banning ordnance doesn't help sick people.
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