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TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 27, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 27, 2013 - 09:39pm PT
bring the Beanie lover, West with ya.

As someone who knows someone who might be Hispanic, I find that racially insensitive.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 28, 2013 - 12:09am PT
More proof, socal is just like Mexico.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Mexican-vigilantes-seize-town-arrest-police-4389503.php
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 28, 2013 - 12:13am PT
Besides you, Monolith ( and jghedge ), who is saying "socal is just like Mexico" ?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 28, 2013 - 12:16am PT
Er, um, Tooth. Try to focus.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 28, 2013 - 12:22am PT
I went back at least a hundred posts, and saw only you and jghedge saying anything like "socal is just like Mexico". Focus?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 28, 2013 - 12:42am PT
Would you agree there's a difference between a "similarity", and "just like" ?

Can you at least see that?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 28, 2013 - 12:43am PT
If you want to quibble, fine. And it's not just a similarity, it's "most like than any other country".

Remember, this was about travel advisories regarding safety, not culture.
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Mar 28, 2013 - 12:52am PT
yup. I did.

edit(s0 I don't bump this thread). yup. you did hedge. what if you took the gun stat numbers, removed handguns from the US to match Canada, then gun numbers are even (we have 1/3 the # of guns per capita as you - but all long guns) For the number of long guns you have, 4% of crime is done with that. Almost all of our gun crime is done with long guns. Which means that if the US just gave up handguns they would have a better gun death rate than canada, no?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 28, 2013 - 01:10am PT
Would you feel safer walking down the streets of San Bernardino? Or Vancouver?
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 28, 2013 - 01:31am PT
Washington D.C., or Ottowa? Which is safer at night? Apples-to-apples, as both are national capitols.

America's just more violent. Any way you want to measure it. And we should be. It's in our genetics.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 28, 2013 - 01:45am PT
Different mindset in Canada. Any law-abiding Canadian who wants a gun can get one. Their gun violence rates are lower partly because fewer Canadians want guns, and even fewer feel the need to use one.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Mar 28, 2013 - 02:20am PT
I gotta give it to Hedge for endurance. I left the computer for 9 hours to go hiking, bouldering, and a Yoga class followed by dinner with my beautiful wife. So I come back to take a peek, and he's been here the whole time.

FACT: That is unreal. Credit where credit is due, the guy sticks to his guns! Oh wait, that can't be right...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 28, 2013 - 02:40am PT
Their gun violence rates are lower ALMOST CERTAINLY because...

of lower population densities.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 28, 2013 - 09:56am PT
America's just more violent. Any way you want to measure it. And we should be. It's in our genetics.

Did you really say that Chaz? Did you say it with a straight face?
"And we should be".
WTF! Did the genome project Map an American violence gene? Really?
Well then that explains it. Nothing can be done about because as Chaz says"It's in our genetics".
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Mar 28, 2013 - 12:27pm PT
Violence is genetic sheesh! It shows the mentality of those on the right! If anything violence is in our culture, and that's exactly what this thread should be about trying to change that.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 28, 2013 - 12:31pm PT
Yeah, it is confrontational when a comedian does it... but when the POTUS does it I suppose it is classy?



I suppose yelling out "YOU LIE" during a congressional address is just honest and open debate, too?



If anything violence is in our culture, and that's exactly what this thread should be about trying to change that.

Or at least reducing the availability of lethal tools used to express that violence.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 28, 2013 - 12:47pm PT
Oh for fuk sakes Ron... of course other people are violent all over the world... that is what makes the "violence is in our genes" comment so fuking stoopid...


BUT

THEY

DON'T

HAVE

AS

EASY

ACCESS

TO

FIREARMS!!!!

This is fun:
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2013-03-27/news/fl-boynton-road-rage-20130327_1_road-rage-incident-west-boynton-man-road-rage-incidents
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Mar 28, 2013 - 12:57pm PT
If you make legal access to firearms too hard, you'll end up making it much easier to get a gun.

Prohibition ALWAYS creates black markets.

The Black Market doesn't do background checks, or check I.D.s, or enforce *waiting periods*. No. The Black Market delivers right to your house, with just a phone call. Only question asked is "you have cash"?

Think through your plan again, Weschrist, and this time take The Law Of Unintended Consequences into consideration.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 28, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
If you make legal access to firearms too hard, you'll end up making it much easier to get a gun.


Yeah, that makes sense... since most guns on the streets get there through straw sales... you know, like any criminal who doesn't have a felony can legally buy one gun a month and sell it to their neighbor... no tracking, no followups, no reporting of high volume purchasers... the gun manufacturers like it that way, which is why they pay the NRA so much to lobby and brainwash morains.

No need to increase regulations/oversight...
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=129253&page=1#.UVR4NldvBao
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