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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Oh, and they still go out in public because... surprise... the odds are fairly low of becoming a gunshot victim.
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Quick question...
How effective do you think the 7 round magazine limit is going to be in New York? Do you think it's effective to tell them they have a year to dispose of them/sell them out of state?
I bet neighboring states LOVE that.
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Oh, you mean like better mental health care? Universal background checks? Training and licensing to own firearms?
Oops, no... you mean repeal of the 2nd. Good luck with that.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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the odds are fairly low of becoming a gunshot victim.
And so, they are not afraid... which means they can make a rational decision... like the sale of machines designed to and capable of killing dozens of people in minutes should be regulated.
Glad we got that cleared up.
Now tell me the rational thought process behind resisting a comprehensive gun registry cross-referenced with records of HOMICIDAL maniacs and known gang members. And please include as many references as possible to a tyrannical government hell bent on taking away pea shooters so they don't scratch their tanks... or a stand off with hoards of criminals in the driveway.
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Lets condense that article:
The only reason people buy guns because they want a bigger penis.
We should try and accept and understand what gives other people satisfaction, except nobody really understands why a gun makes your penis seem bigger.
You dont want a gun, you,ll shoot your eye out!
It,s reasonable to trade our rights and privacy for protection from miniscule risk.
Massacres are bad.
I,m probably afraid of the dark and the boogeyman. With a gun.
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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huh. my guns provide meat in the freezer an the occasional weekend can shooting entertainment. Not so sure about the false sense of empowerment stated in the article. I guess since i go fishing i,m more likely to die of lead poisoning than someone who only eats sushi out, if i follow the logic of the article.
all i was doing is streamling the author,s POV.
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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hedge, is there some kind of correlation between your own inadequacy and the number of your posts to this thread? or are ya just bored at work between girlfriends and lookin for attention?
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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hey ron, you think id bag more chukar if i rapped in on em aussie style from the top?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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hedge, is there some kind of correlation between your own inadequacy and the number of your posts to this thread? or are ya just bored at work between girlfriends and lookin for attention?
your name's on the page more than Joe's. You must be winning.
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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thanks wade. im bored at work watching rotors turn again. im sure hedge has me beat over the history of the thread, but thats ok.
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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aw hell, im sorry hedge. you have yerself a nice day and a wonderful weekend. im just an as#@&%e today is all. dont mean to spoil your fun.
anyway, i couldnt win a lottery if i was the only one to buy tickets. just stirrin the sh#t.
someday, maybe, i,ll be a real climber. then i can troll the on-topic ethics like "which is more ethical, fixed pins or bolts next to a perfect hand crack?" and "should i bring my sheep tn the crag- its lonely out there?".
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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a walking...
damn... time to bring out the big guns.
my dream job is corporate lawyer for rock crushers inc, and im only here scoping out the crags lookin for road base.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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The UK had 35 gun deaths last year, 20 of which were suicides - only 15 gun murders in a country of 60 million. We have 12,000 gun murders a year.
Guess it depends on what metrics you care about. Again, your fixation on murder, murder, murder shines through in everything. Actually, I'd rather live here.
See: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime-total-crimes
The UK has less than 1/5 the number of people as the US, but they have more than half as much crime as we do. Sure, fewer murders, but in general a more crime-ridden society.
Perhaps you're missing Ron's overarching point, because he's not fixated on one single sort of crime.
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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hedge, you ever been there?
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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If other countries agreed that more guns = less crime, they'd be arming the populace. Instead they're doing the opposite.
yeah right!
p.s. i'm sure my swiss climber buddy would'nt agree with you. he'd say ur a stupid american who never ate horse!
also, don't forget the swiss have their tunnels equipped/ready with TNT in case of an invasion. maybe we should arm all the tunnels in the us.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Switzerland has very strict gun laws, including strict laws on private sales.
http://csgv2.blogspot.com/2011/03/truth-about-guns-in-switzerland.html
It is no surprise that the United States has an astronomically higher gun death rate than any other industrialized democracy. The critical concept of civic duty—which is such a central element of Switzerland’s gun culture—has been eviscerated in the United States over time by the gun lobby.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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And they are heavily regulated, Anderson. Much of the gun possession is related to being in a real militia organization with regular training.
Somehow I knew you would miss the point.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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The NRA would pout and cry like a little boy if Swiss style gun laws were proposed here.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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That's funny Anderson.
Don't you remember posting that xenophobic article saying the claiming Swiss were susceptible to Muslims demanding Sharia laws in their Muslim ghettos?
They have a higher Muslim population by percentage then we do.
Or are you OK with Muslims now, or is it's just the Mexicans you want out?
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Are you OK with Swiss type gun laws in the US, Anderson?
If not, then you and Pyro just look ill informed bragging about Switzerland.
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