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Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Feb 9, 2013 - 08:49am PT
Damn straight.

Thank god Glenn Beck and those other guys are going to build those real America theme parks. You can be certain they will maintain a very tight control over their "creative classes" within those walls.

GhoulweJ

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Feb 9, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
This is not good for guns in California.
I am not in favor of this.

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPjkLTtJ ... e=youtu.be]
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 11, 2013 - 07:52am PT
RPD Search for Suspects After Shooting Sent One Person to the Hospital



RENO, Nev. -- A shooting on Yori Avenue near Grand Canyon Blvd sent at least on person to the hospital.

The victim is a 17-year-old male, who was wounded in the chest.

Police continued to canvass the area searching for three suspects who, witnesses say, ran south on Yori after the shooting.

Our KOLO 8 News Now crew on the scene says two young males, possibly teenagers, who witnessed the shooting are with police now.
The two young males are not suspects. Police officials say the two males were with the victim when he was shot.

Our KOLO 8 News Now crew spoke with a resident who says there has been increasing gang violence in that neighborhood recently. Today's shooting is just blocks from the place a 16-year-old was killed on Friday afternoon in a shooting.

Stay with KOLO 8 News Now for the latest as information becomes available.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 11, 2013 - 08:48am PT
Ghoul, I think you meant this



Hint: to post videos, click the video link and paste the choss after the "=". The video choss is: OPjkLTtJ8qE. It should look like this, with [] around it.

youtube=OPjkLTtJ8qE
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 11, 2013 - 10:42am PT
Talked last night with a doctor friend several decades younger than me.

I'm not too worried about the 2nd being gutted in my lifetime, but he faces an uncertain future.
Between exporting jobs we'll never get back and failing to educate our children and endeavoring to create a nanny state this country is morphing its middle class into a mega-underclass. If the current spike in ordnance cost is prolonged the government can disarm much of the populace economically.
The urbanization of the populace also comes into play as less and less people are raised by responsible gun owners.
And then there is the media. I usually like Jon Stewart, but didn't appreciate his editorializing about something he is obviously largely ignorant about. Even anti-gun Ray Kelly pointed out to him that the vast majority of gun homicides involve handguns.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 11, 2013 - 10:49am PT
Ray Kelly pointed out to him that the vast majority of gun homicides involve handguns.

Did Ray Kelly point out that those homicides usually involve an altercation between relatively few people, gangs, or drugs... and NOT a school full of children, a movie theater full of people, or a crowded mall?

Apples and oranges. But we can ban hand guns too, if you like.

Fact remains, without easy access to guns capable of killing dozens of people in minutes, mass killing psychos will have a much harder time killing dozens of people in minutes.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Feb 11, 2013 - 11:02am PT
Fact remains, without easy access to guns capable of killing dozens of people in minutes, mass killing psychos will have a much harder time killing dozens of people in minutes.

Yeah but when the Chinese attack ala Red Dawn you'll want those banana clips. Actually that's not likely, you'll need them for when the Zombies attack.

But really if you aren't a gun fetishist and don't know all the esoteric facts about guns you aren't qualified to even talk about gun control.
jghedge

climber
Feb 11, 2013 - 11:06am PT
"And then there is the media. I usually like Jon Stewart, but didn't appreciate his editorializing about something he is obviously largely ignorant about"

As opposed to being in denial of, both of which always help when forming wrong opinions.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Feb 11, 2013 - 11:09am PT
I can tell you right now what the big deal is with AR 15's or whatever they are called. They are symbolic and emblematic of the culture that is at the root of the problem. It is just like the Confederate flag - but a whole lot more dangerous than symbolic of an evil cultural imperative. STatistically those particular weapons are not responsible for the per capita carnage -hand guns are as you point out.

In terms of mythological imagery on the psyche of society however, their damage is huge. They are idols which should not be worshiped. They have no other purpose other than to represent and celebrate homicide.

Nuking them will be the first step in changing the culture, which is why against all practical reason it is opposed so vigorously. Once you take that first step the next logical step is hand guns, which actually have more functional utility as self defense in your home, yet are less a benefit and more a hazard outside your home.
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Feb 11, 2013 - 11:13am PT
Is it any wonder that that guy on his sofa has a twisted vies of the world and where guns sit in it? THat he misinterprets how rare such violence actually is, and how its actually been getting BETTER?

Firstly, nobody should consider 10,000 homicides, more than 50,000 injuries and innumerable non-injurious shootings, armed robberies and gun-toting threats each year as rare.

Secondly, those who insist that they need unlimited quantities of military firepower to protect their homes are the ones who have a disproportionate view of the threat from guns. Describe any realistic threat to a regular law-abiding citizen that 5 shots from a 12-gauge wouldn't address but 30 shots from a rifle would?

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survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Feb 11, 2013 - 11:16am PT
GhoulweJ

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Feb 11, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
mechrist,
Thanks for the info on posting videos. I appreciate it.
jghedge

climber
Feb 11, 2013 - 12:41pm PT
"Describe any realistic threat to a regular law-abiding citizen that 5 shots from a 12-gauge wouldn't address but 30 shots from a rifle would?"

You get a shotgun for home use, which isn't allowed to leave the house (like in Switzerland).

Everything else will eventually be banned - too many moral/societal imperatives involved to continue to allow otherwise.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Feb 11, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
This whole gun thing is pretty sad. I grew up around guns and have shot most types. The biggest I've shot with was a 300 Winchester Magnum as a teen-ager. It was pretty fun to explode coffee cans of water at 100 yds. Now, I think about just going out in Puget Sound in a boat and letting them all go to the bottom. The nice thing about leaving home was getting away from guns and the paranoia. Then, I got to inherit the damn things. Dumping them all in the Sound - It's kind of the way I react to what's going on in the world. Perhaps just saying that here has much more power than actually doing it. I actually have a Glock lost in my own house! The other guns just sit, but in a strongbox. Personally, I would rather fondle my archery gear.

On a more recent note, I bought my first fixed blade knife from a knife artist named Daniel Koster. It came in mail today and God, is it a thing of beauty. It has PRACTICAL written all over it. I'll try to get a nice photo of it next to the old Marine Corp knife I used to carry around as a kid.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 11, 2013 - 01:19pm PT
what "whole gun thing"?? Are you talking of the 499 million that have NEVER killed anyone, nor been involved in any illegal activities? Statistically its a damm good track record..
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Feb 11, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
If the current spike in ordnance cost is prolonged the government can disarm much of the populace economically.

Yes, because the only way the populace can protect themselves from Obama Hitler is by constantly purchasing ordnance.
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Feb 11, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
Ron, seek mental help; that is the dumbest argument ever.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 11, 2013 - 01:28pm PT
crank,, THAT IS the argument.


Have you had your car taken away because of the massive amount of drunk drivers killing folks?
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Feb 11, 2013 - 01:33pm PT
crank,, THAT IS the argument.


Have you had your car taken away because of the massive amount of drunk drivers killing folks?

Thats quite a powerful argument you got there.

anybody else out there besides ron?
jghedge

climber
Feb 11, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
"Have you had your car taken away because of the massive amount of drunk drivers killing folks?"

Comparing accident statistics to homicide statistics is a reeeeally well thought-out argument, Rong

Glad to see you're on top of your game today



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