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mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:00pm PT
Dear Chaz, you fuking idiot, I said there was a perfectly reasonable explanation for the DHS calling them "personal weapons" on their invoice because they are clearly NOT "crew served weapons." They are assigned to and used by a person, not a crew.

Rong thought the DHS calling them "personal weapons" was just another example of Obama's devious tyrannical plan. Meanwhile the other Rong attempts to equate personal self-defense at home with combat experience.

Rong:
Perhaps this is a dandy example of tyranny, that the govt in ITS desires can classify such a weapon as "personal defense" while wanting the citizenry to have gramps double barrel 12 gauge.

No doubt our soldiers need personal assault weapons. No way our citizens do. Personal self-defense does not require combat experience.

F U K I N G I D I O T S
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:09pm PT
Your kind blew up churches in the South in the 60's too, which led to integration and the banning of Jim Crow laws faster than anything liberals could possibly have done on their own.

Hedge you cross the line here with this bs.

First of all the Jim Crow laws were largely fought for by southern democrats. George Wallace was a democrat.

// " I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds. "

Democrat Senator - Robert Byrd (the longest serving member of Congress in US history, who launched his political career as a KKK leader.) //

I was raised by a man, my stepfather, who was a freedom rider in the late 1950s. Do you know about the freedom riders? Those people put their money where their mouth was on the issue of desegregation, my stepfather spent one year in Parchman State Prison in Mississippi for the crime of entering a "colored" bathroom (then he refused bail for as long as possible.) The same man also taught me to shoot, and hunt, and gave me my first gun, a 30-30 lever action rifle.

I am simply disgusted by this ongoing bullshit that somehow relatively conservative views lead to racism. "Your kind..." etc. A load of crap. There are racist people in all walks of life.

If you know anything about the history of gun control laws, then you know that Missouri was the first state to enact gun control and the reason behind it was racial. The white folks were terrified of the idea that the newly freed slaves would get guns and run wild.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
fer shyts sake wessie, yur trying to make an arguement out of a sarcastic "phrase" as if it meant anything other than just that. A mountain out of a pimple, that is your brain. You seem to do this regularly. As well as hurl your nonstop foul mouthed insults. You remind me of our crazy legislature member from Vegas,, also a democrat.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:34pm PT
I've been looking at and considering purchase of a CA-10. Any constructive commentary from fear, Ron A, Toker and other enthusiasts?

http://www.christensenarms.com/products/ca-10-recon/
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:39pm PT
The whole idea of "people like you" and reference in general to anyone with differing points of view as being "the enemy" runs contrary to the entire idea of healthy, civil, logical debate. Now lately, most of that bullshit's been coming from the right. I even saw a bumper sticker that read "if guns are outlawed how can we shoot the liberals?" and I just shook my head in disgust.
Then again, mechrist and jhedge, among others, sure aren't bringing much to the table with the "FUKING IDIOTS" type of comment. How, sir, can that possibly foster rational conversation and a willingness to consider your point of view when it causes resentment, entrenchment, and disappointment for your disdain of political opponent's life experiences?

Guess I better start hoarding ammo, 'cause when the sh#t goes down yer all going to pull that "with us or against us" bullshit and all I
'm gonna be is everyone else' target for walkin the line.

Whoops... almost forgot this is a climbing forum.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:39pm PT
Ksolem said:

First of all the Jim Crow laws were largely fought for by southern democrats. George Wallace was a democrat.

true

and then the Civil Rights Act was passed, and Wallace and damn near every Democrat in the South instantly became a Republican

"with the passage of the Civil Rights Bill" we have lost the South for generations"
President Johnson
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:41pm PT
TradEddie will now detail his extensive training and combat experience,..

I never claimed combat experience, my military experience is more than either candidate in the last election, possibly more than the previous President, but still irrelevant. We're talking home defense, if you want to defend the US, see your nearest recruiting office, they have ample supplies of the weapons you want.

Please provide any REASONABLE home defense scenario where the inability to own an assault weapon would have any likely effect on the outcome.

TE
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:44pm PT
Ksolem said:

my stepfather spent one year in Parchman State Prison in Mississippi for the crime of entering a "colored" bathroom


no sh!t?

I assume your stepfather was white, he entered a "Colored Only" bathroom and was put in prison for a YEAR?


Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:48pm PT
Please provide any REASONABLE home defense scenario where the inability to own an assault weapon would have any likely effect on the outcome.

it's not about "reasonable" discussion

it's about ME and the Slippery Slope of Fear

smoke reefer and you WILL end up a Heroin addict

talk about universal background checks and the Feds WILL come to my home and take away my Bushmaster

I have four guns, a CCL permit and carry all the time, and I am NOT worried about ANY legislation short of taking my now legal personal defense weapons away

and no one is talking about doing that
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:51pm PT
hillrat, the fuking idiots comments have nothing to do with them owning guns or their political views. It has everything to do with the fuking idiotic arguments they make (imagine straw men learning to ski).

See norton's comment for a summary. (note: norton is not a fuking idiot)
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:52pm PT
Smoke reefer...
and unless you grow your own, your probably directly funding the illegal gun purchases made by the people you least desire to own weapons.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:52pm PT
Dropline,, look at a Para- TTR instead.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:53pm PT
mechrist, i understand your point, but it colors your tone and the rest of your arguments.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
I understand that. I've tried having discussions with the lot. It didn't work, so I reverted to the 3rd grade mentality in an attempt to more effectively communicate with them.

I appreciate you keeping a level head and expressing your opinions as an intelligent gun owner.

I'm going climbing. Peace!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 03:00pm PT
wow,, da poop is piling up here.. wessie,, youve been an insulting prick from the git go..( And in fact listening to stories of your past,, have ALWAYS been so) It has nothing to do with any of us conservative minded types..But GUD try..

edit: exactly the reason i stopped trying to engage you any any deeper discussion. "Deserves got everything to do with it".
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Feb 15, 2013 - 03:02pm PT
Most folks don,t have the time or inclination to read through enough posts to take more awax than the last couple pages, if that, and so dont fully get a sense of the limited few your yelling at. You know, like i did.

Kinda like thinking our govt would actually sanction a Sandy Hook style event in order to push a political agenda.

But then, Obama MAY BE the antichrist.

I don,t know, I kinda think all the protectionist laws, success of healthcare, and general ease of life in modern society have reversed evolution. Bring back Darwin! The gene pool is stagnant...

Arm everyone, end healthcare, and cut the fuel supply. Yeah baby, THEN we,ll evolve or die, like it oughta be!
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Feb 15, 2013 - 03:13pm PT
training and combat experience,..

I didn't know that fondling guns all day was now called "training and combat experience."
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Feb 15, 2013 - 03:22pm PT
Norton the strategy of the freedom riders was to travel into the deep south in groups, usually in buses, and get arrested for deliberately violating a segregation law. Then they would refuse bail for as long as they could, this generated a lot of media coverage at the time and helped to shed light throughout the nation on the race laws in certain states.

http://crdl.usg.edu/people/r/rogers_ralph_robert_1928/
WTF

climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 04:52pm PT
Hedge while you think that's a failure by repubs it is not its what we law abiding gun owners want.

In fact it's a win for our country and its not a dem or repub victory. It's a win for the kids in Connecticut the Colorado families and anyone else who's been a victim of such violence.

All we gun owners want are fair laws that allow us to keep and buy the guns we want and keep them out of the hands of the mentally ill and the criminal.

You however keep driving a wedge between people and making people choose sides so we can continue to fall apart as a country and society with you repub and dem bullsh#t.

Like they say a repub doesn't want a gun he doesn't buy one a dem doesn't want one and therefore no one should have one.

Stupid fu king Americans
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
Its actually a win, with the CCW holders being exempt, a condition long sought after by many holders. No one i know is against good back ground checks.
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