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mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:51pm PT
hillrat, the fuking idiots comments have nothing to do with them owning guns or their political views. It has everything to do with the fuking idiotic arguments they make (imagine straw men learning to ski).

See norton's comment for a summary. (note: norton is not a fuking idiot)
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:52pm PT
Smoke reefer...
and unless you grow your own, your probably directly funding the illegal gun purchases made by the people you least desire to own weapons.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:52pm PT
Dropline,, look at a Para- TTR instead.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:53pm PT
mechrist, i understand your point, but it colors your tone and the rest of your arguments.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Feb 15, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
I understand that. I've tried having discussions with the lot. It didn't work, so I reverted to the 3rd grade mentality in an attempt to more effectively communicate with them.

I appreciate you keeping a level head and expressing your opinions as an intelligent gun owner.

I'm going climbing. Peace!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 03:00pm PT
wow,, da poop is piling up here.. wessie,, youve been an insulting prick from the git go..( And in fact listening to stories of your past,, have ALWAYS been so) It has nothing to do with any of us conservative minded types..But GUD try..

edit: exactly the reason i stopped trying to engage you any any deeper discussion. "Deserves got everything to do with it".
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Feb 15, 2013 - 03:02pm PT
Most folks don,t have the time or inclination to read through enough posts to take more awax than the last couple pages, if that, and so dont fully get a sense of the limited few your yelling at. You know, like i did.

Kinda like thinking our govt would actually sanction a Sandy Hook style event in order to push a political agenda.

But then, Obama MAY BE the antichrist.

I don,t know, I kinda think all the protectionist laws, success of healthcare, and general ease of life in modern society have reversed evolution. Bring back Darwin! The gene pool is stagnant...

Arm everyone, end healthcare, and cut the fuel supply. Yeah baby, THEN we,ll evolve or die, like it oughta be!
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Feb 15, 2013 - 03:13pm PT
training and combat experience,..

I didn't know that fondling guns all day was now called "training and combat experience."
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Feb 15, 2013 - 03:22pm PT
Norton the strategy of the freedom riders was to travel into the deep south in groups, usually in buses, and get arrested for deliberately violating a segregation law. Then they would refuse bail for as long as they could, this generated a lot of media coverage at the time and helped to shed light throughout the nation on the race laws in certain states.

http://crdl.usg.edu/people/r/rogers_ralph_robert_1928/
WTF

climber
Feb 15, 2013 - 04:52pm PT
Hedge while you think that's a failure by repubs it is not its what we law abiding gun owners want.

In fact it's a win for our country and its not a dem or repub victory. It's a win for the kids in Connecticut the Colorado families and anyone else who's been a victim of such violence.

All we gun owners want are fair laws that allow us to keep and buy the guns we want and keep them out of the hands of the mentally ill and the criminal.

You however keep driving a wedge between people and making people choose sides so we can continue to fall apart as a country and society with you repub and dem bullsh#t.

Like they say a repub doesn't want a gun he doesn't buy one a dem doesn't want one and therefore no one should have one.

Stupid fu king Americans
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
Its actually a win, with the CCW holders being exempt, a condition long sought after by many holders. No one i know is against good back ground checks.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
Maybe no one you personally know is against background checks, Ron

but did you know that the NRA IS?

they have a LOT of influence, lots of money, lawyers, and Washington lobbyists.

NRA officials handed out a flyer titled: "NO to 'Universal' Background Checks"
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/12/nra-ramps-up-campaign-against-background-checks/

edit: I think the above NRA kind of absolutism, no grey area, my way or the highway is the attitude that people like myself, Mechrist and others wish would change

The NRA has every right to teach little Timmy how to shoot his new BB gun, and has every right to represent the interests of responsible gun owners everywhere, all just fine

However, the NRA does strongly influence the thought processes of ten of millions of gun owners in addition to literally "owning" many of our politicians with their large cash contributions to their re election campaigns.

Here's the thing, the NRA would be doing itself a big favor and regaining a lot of lost credibility IF they would agree to support what their own NRA members support, and the membership supports Universal Background checks except to close knit blood relatives in private sales, the membership also supports much stronger electronic monitoring and Federal "policing" of grey area sales, instant data base checks, and the membership also supports reasonable limits on magazine size and "some" additional limits on what types of weapons the public can purchase.

If the NRA collects dues from its members which it does, and claims to "represent" its members, then yes, it ought to support the same things its own members support.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:37pm PT
Because nobody gets murdered in the UK by guns.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:40pm PT
Joe, I have said it before and with all due respect to you personally.

Your position to "ban" ALL guns is childish, unrealistic, and really ultimately serves only to establish your position, and thus you, as "extreme" and as emotionally unreasonable as the very people you rail against.

Honestly Joe, you weaken your credibility when you take such an unyielding and my way or the highway position, in fact you present the same black and white only extremism that you criticize your discussion opponents of embracing.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:41pm PT
Because nobody gets murdered in the UK by guns.

well Michael, good point!

out of a population of some 60 million, less than 100 people were killed by guns in 2012

thanks for pointing that out
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:41pm PT
Please provide any REASONABLE home defense scenario where the inability to own an assault weapon would have any likely effect on the outcome.
Look up the frequency of road rage incidents where people use vehicles as weapons, even on pedestrians or people in their own yards. Most handgun rounds bounce off windshields, as does birdshot.
And more and more criminals are stealing body armor and HTFU.
.223 rounds defeat IIA armor. In fact it renders the AR round MORE effective.






Dropline, in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king, but what are you going to feed it?


It is good to see WTF channeling Werner.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:46pm PT
A buddy of mine got an m1-A (308)in full competition set ups, supressor the hole nine..! 2500.00 Brand new. A spankin 500 yard gun!
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:48pm PT
Toker, .308 Win
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:49pm PT
Hows your supply?



















edit
Yeah, Ron, probably have 147gr "cheap" surplus @ $1.50 per
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 15, 2013 - 05:49pm PT
Major gun show in Reno tomorrow- 9:00 am opening. Be there EARLY for ammo...;-)



Ill be in the back rooms getting me some Shoulder mounteds,, pineapples, and C4...Muwaaaahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa
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