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michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 16, 2013 - 05:54pm PT
Yup. But if you take all the guns away in America, we'll be safe. Because we're like, American.
abrams

Sport climber
Jan 16, 2013 - 06:04pm PT
unarmed Supertopo sheep may cry wolf one day but who will come to help them?

michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 16, 2013 - 06:05pm PT
The police and government man.


ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Jan 16, 2013 - 06:07pm PT
France! Just like last time!
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jan 16, 2013 - 06:10pm PT
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 16, 2013 - 06:12pm PT
Human beings should not posses weapons that can kill at the pull of a tiny, metal, banana shaped part. But since the first caveman to discover that a pointy stick could penetrate human flesh like a Wooly Mammoth's foot in the snow, they've used them to kill what they want to. Not everyone has the mental block to put between murdering someone over something, and just dealing with it. Firearms are the best equalizer we have in society today. There is still a great need for them, because others with ill intent will use theirs. Until the day lazers, telepathic powers, or magic wands are available to the people, firearms will still be the #1 choice for killing.


There is not a universal system out there that can be used worldwide, to reach out to every single individual, to put their guns away and trust one another.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 16, 2013 - 06:46pm PT
Ok Wall Slave, nice personal rant by the way, especially the "fuk all" thing at the end

but can you apply that same intelligence to actually posting your equally well thought out suggestions as to what this country should be doing now to mitigate mass murder like the 20 first graders slaughtered at Sandy Hook?

like what are your specific ideas to lessen the likely hood of Sandy Point occurring again?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jan 16, 2013 - 06:55pm PT
Making it harder for law abiding citizens to obtain weaponry won't work.

Many of the nutcases it turns out were victims of bullying, so if you rally want to save lives it could be something as simole as modifying our culture to be more tolerant of those that are different, to just be more kind to each other and less tolerant of those that aren't.



What bugs me are people that pontificate on a subject that they have little depth in. Imagine if after a series of climbing fatalities a bunch of well meaning citizens decide to pass laws against people buying hardware or ropes.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 16, 2013 - 07:02pm PT
Yeah Ron, but one could argue you can't use a rope to clear a room of 1st graders in seconds.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jan 16, 2013 - 07:04pm PT
Wanna bet?
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Jan 16, 2013 - 07:06pm PT
You guy's better just cashout yer retirement and start stockpiling.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 16, 2013 - 07:06pm PT
so if you rally want to save lives it could be something as simole as modifying our culture to be more tolerant of those that are different, to just be more kind to each other and less tolerant of those that aren't.

sounds noble and in theory good

and since you are critical of those that you decided don't know what they are talking about,

can I ask you, Toker, to elaborate on your above suggestion to "save lives"

tell us exactly, please be specific, how you would make our culture "more tolerant, and more kind to each other", if YOU were in charge?

I know you have often said passing more laws won't do any good because lots of people could care less about laws, so I assume you won't be passing any new laws in charge

so, HOW exactly, knowing you have thought this all out, would you make our culture more tolerant and kind, as you say we need to be to cut down on all this gun killing?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 16, 2013 - 07:06pm PT
A Right is useless if you never have guts to demand it, use it or stand up for its Honor.

So where have you actually stood up for these rights so far, besides the internet I mean?

michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 16, 2013 - 07:10pm PT
I'm not saying a prison MH. I'm saying a teacher at the foot of the door letting children in and out of the room. They're still welcome to playground and field use, with your groundskeepers and monitors supervision of course. It's all of their jobs to have a secure place for children to play and learn.

Dave Kos

Trad climber
Temecula
Jan 16, 2013 - 07:10pm PT
What bugs me are people that pontificate on a subject that they have little depth in.

What bugs me is that some people claim that this issue is more relevant to them than it is to everyone else.

Anyone can be the victim of gun violence. We are all stakeholders, at least with regard to the stakes that matter most: life and death.

The idea that only gun "hobbyists" should have a say because they are the "experts" on weapons is bunk.

Are you really claiming that the opinion of a mother who may lose her child in the next incident doesn't matter -- because she doesn't subscribe to Guns & Ammo?

Just another attempt at changing the subject. It won't work.

Even "stupid Americans" can figure out that gun violence always involves ... you guessed it ... guns!

tinker b

climber
the commonwealth
Jan 16, 2013 - 07:11pm PT
i am taking my first gun class on saturday. i am planning on getting my license because my dad has a bunch of guns, and i will need to be able to deal with them when he goes. my prayers were answered, and i found a class with the liberal gun club...i never knew such a thing existed. i am glad i will not be giving any money to the nra, and i don't have to listen to a bunch of wack jobs going off on the liberals, obama, and the second amendment.
well not really part of the debate. just guns.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 16, 2013 - 07:14pm PT
The as#@&%e in stall #2 with the case of 12g and the Saiga semi-auto is the reason I don't like the NRA. He hit his target at 21 feet. Blew it off the hinges after 2 mags (in about 10 seconds). Laughed and said something along the lines of "Yeahp, gonna teach them not to mess with me".

He was a little guy, probably from a bit north of Placerville. Looks like he partakes in the crystal meth scene.


Oh, he had a few NRA stickers on his ammo box and pelican rifle case.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jan 16, 2013 - 07:14pm PT
A liberal gun club?

Do they have a stuffed Bill O'Reilly on the wall?
QITNL

climber
Jan 16, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
"What bugs me are people that pontificate on a subject that they have little depth in."

That is true. If this thread were titled "Let's wave our weapons like a bunch of Somalians!!!" you could offer your services to help us ID make and caliber.

Sadly for you, this debate concerns public policy, which leaves you very little to offer.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 16, 2013 - 07:19pm PT
A liberal gun club?

Do they have a stuffed Bill O'Reilly on the wall?


Maybe a shrine of Piers Morgan, and a bunch of his quotes engraved in the stone walls surrounding.
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