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Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 20, 2013 - 02:34pm PT
perhaps it would help if THOSE guys had no guns.. But they didnt get them at Cabelas..


I think everyone, everyone would agree with this, Ron

so what new efforts would you support to keep THOSE guys from getting guns in the first place, Ron?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 20, 2013 - 02:38pm PT
^^ clearly a constitutional scholar!
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 20, 2013 - 02:40pm PT
For Rong and Blurring.
















































xtrmecat

Big Wall climber
Kalispell, Montanagonia
Jan 20, 2013 - 02:45pm PT
To the haters of guns, why do you insist on calling all enthusiasts gun nuts? Insulting an opponent is probably the worst way to validate anything you say.

Just cause you say it does not make it so. You realize this don't you?

I am an enthusiast, and proud of it. To be lumped into a nuts category does not insult me. It just lets me know the mentality and maturity of the person doing the constant name calling. If it is a response you seek, then you win. This is my response, but it really did not hurt my feelers any.

As far as logical arguements goes, banning all guns is impossible, yet continues to surface in this thread quite frequently. This also tips most of us as to the, aaaah screwit, see above.

Arguements like banning funs in any form will make mass killings go away in this country is not only impractical, but makes so little sense that I cannot see how anyone really could believe such a line of thinking.

A cold is probably the most prevelent problem medically facing every human in this country. By your so often stated logic, we should pass laws and surgically remove every nose on every person in this country, and then hermetically seal every ones eyes. Wala, no more colds. It is so simple to just take away the easiest to spot adn common symptoms, and do away with yjr problem, right? Just about as crazy as the arguements from a lot of anti gun crowd posting in this thread.

If this seems to be a far fetched example, or not even relevant, then you are closer to seeing what I see from my perspective than I give you credit for. If your posts and attitude is really just to hurt the feelings of others and try to piss others off, then I am glad you are not of the gun enthusiast crowd. From my perspective, win win.

The media, our health care (lack of system), social responsibility norms, etc. etc. are very much a cause of the issue, with guns only a small fraction of the problem. Yet is just isn't that interesting to try to argue problems you understand, but rather argue something you think you understand, but are passionate about. This also clues me in to people thought processes and makes it incredibly easy to make judgement calls as to the arguement validity.

On a positive note, went out and shot about a thousand rounds at the range yesterday. My wife and I, our son and his girlfriend, and gasp, her three preteen children. Everyone participated, and had a great time. We had big magazines, things to shoot the crap out of including Zombie targets, and other things training the young little killers. It will take me a week of several evenings in the garage to rebuild my ammo stash, like several hundred rounds minimum of each and every gun we own. Great family fun, and no, not one person was harmed in the making of a great family outing, and all seven of us for less than $100.00 for about six hours. Some very young minds were instructed, same as we did with our children when they were of the same ages.

ARs, many large capacity magazines, and tons of lead flying. Not one assault weapon though. Too bad those were banned long ago. The kids would have enjoyed them emensely.


Burly Bob


Ps, we have no intention of raising victims in our family. Just well rounded thinkers with a very diverse knowledge and skills of many things in many directions. Hmmm, can this really be healthy way to raise a family?

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 02:52pm PT
On a positive note, went out and shot about a thousand rounds at the range yesterday. My wife and I, our son and his girlfriend, and gasp, her three preteen children. Everyone participated, and had a great time. We had big magazines, things to shoot the crap out of including Zombie targets, and other things training the young little killers. It will take me a week of several evenings in the garage to rebuild my ammo stash, like several hundred rounds minimum of each and every gun we own. Great family fun, and no, not one person was harmed in the making of a great family outing. Some very young minds were instructed, same as we did with our children when they were of the same ages.

ARs, many large capacity magazines, and tons of lead flying. Not one assault weapon though. Too bad those were banned long ago. The kids would have enjoyed them emensely.


Burly Bob


Ps, we have no intention of raising victims in our family. Just well rounded thinkers with a very diverse knowledge and skills of many things in many directions. Hmmm, can this really be healthy way to raise a family?

Well said, and a nice family outing.

Just got my wife qualified on my .45, she shoots tighter groupings than I do!

Good fun shooting is.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 20, 2013 - 02:53pm PT
As far as logical arguements goes, banning all guns is impossible, yet continues to surface in this thread quite frequently.


there is only ONE person calling for banning ALL guns

and that is Joe Hedge

so let us not make the mistake of assuming that ALL people who would like to see some reasonable restrictions are calling to ban ALL guns, only one person here doing that
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 20, 2013 - 02:53pm PT
To the haters of guns, why do you insist on calling all enthusiasts gun nuts? Insulting an opponent is probably the worst way to validate anything you say.

We tried talking nice. We asked for reasonable dialogue. We got glorification of all things GUN. And enough hyperbole to choke the devil.

I don't hate guns. I hate the motherphuckers who place them higher in value than children.



Oooooh so you shot a thousand round wad. How long does it take to wash the sperm stains out of your combat thong?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 02:56pm PT
We asked for reasonable dialogue.


Really?

And do you think most responsible gun owners like seeing dead kids?
xtrmecat

Big Wall climber
Kalispell, Montanagonia
Jan 20, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
Norton, keeping them out of the hands of bad people is truly a problem. Keeping them out of law abiding citizens hands is nowhere near a realistic solution. Now you see how funny the anti gun argument s appear.

Burly Bob
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 20, 2013 - 02:59pm PT
Blue said:
Hmmm, can this really be healthy way to raise a family?

sure it is!

the more our children handle weapons, the better they are are shooting them and being able to protect themselves

plus, let's face it, the family that shoots together stays together

shooting is just all around good fun
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 20, 2013 - 03:00pm PT
Bob, the term "gun nut" is limited to those who refuse to consider ANY gun control measures... before they even hear the proposals.

A "gun nut" is someone who refuses to acknowledge that, without high capacity magazines and semi-autos, tragedies like Sandy Hook and Aurora WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE.

A "gun nut" is someone who thinks Christopher Krumm killed his dad because Casper College is a gun-free zone... completely ignoring the fact that if Christopher had a gun the damage would have been much worse regardless of how many students were carrying.

A "gun nut" is someone who casually discusses the "best weapon" for "the job" of killing dozens of children in a school.

A "gun nut" is someone who fails to acknowledge guns have EVERYTHING to do with the fact that the US has 1/3 the violent crime rate of the UK, but a 3.5 times HIGHER murder rate.

A "gun nut" is someone who mentions Nazis and protection from a tyrannical government every time anyone mentions anything about federal firearms regulations.

A "gun nut" is someone who thinks gun control measures are equivalent to the government coming for your guns.

A "gun nut" is someone who sees nothing wrong with the fact that dealers ARE NOT REQUIRED to report lost or stolen firearms during interstate shipments.

etc.

I've been shooting since I was 6 years old (over 30 years now) and enjoy it. Last camping trip my gf shot a gun for the first time in her life. A little stiff, even with my grandpa's old single shot .22, but she liked it.





plus, let's face it, the family that shoots together stays together

How did Adam Lanza learn to operate his mom's guns?
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 20, 2013 - 03:01pm PT
+1 for Mechrist!

"Happiness is a warm gun bang bang shoot shoot".
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 03:04pm PT
I hear ya, Norton. Although I don't think your quote was mine.

I took the 4 year old out to watch us shoot, no shooting for him yet. I did buy him a set of ears though so he could watch Mom tear in to a target. I just bought a Henry Arms AR-7 (.22LR) that will probably be his first weapon when he comes of age.

Cool rifle!
GhoulweJ

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
Ricky,
Blue isn't your worry.
Nor is the 99.5% of our armed society. Actually they are on your side.

It's the sub 0.5% of society that are just bad people that are your worry. Heck, they could even build their own zip gun (instructions on line) and off us all.

Now go give Blue a hug and thank him for having ur back ;)
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:05pm PT
^ total bullsh#t

blurring is just the kind of idiot who is likely to shoot someone over a misunderstanding... whether it is some teenager taking a shortcut across his property or a Mexican playing loud music in the parking lot.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:08pm PT
Heck, they could even build their own zip gun (instructions on line) and off us all.

Off us all? With a zip gun?
Are you really that ___?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:16pm PT
I hear ya, Norton. Although I don't think your quote was mine.

I took the 4 year old out to watch us shoot, no shooting for him yet. I did buy him a set of ears though so he could watch Mom tear in to a target. I just bought a Henry Arms AR-7 (.22LR) that will probably be his first weapon when he comes of age.

Cool rifle!


good choice, Blue

the Henry is a perfect starter gun for the little guy!
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:17pm PT
It'll go well with a 12 pack of Schlitz.
GhoulweJ

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:26pm PT
Philo
Ur fly off the handle posts on this thread make me fear u!!! I bet u would bludgeon somebody to dearh with a baseball bat if they triggered u.

Blue isn't dangerous... U R
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jan 20, 2013 - 04:27pm PT
Teach your children well.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/teen-guns-5-people-n-m-home-police-article-1.1243564
Gee, too bad he didn't use a zip gun, then he could have done some real damage.
Eh Ghoulwege?
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