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mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 11, 2013 - 06:59pm PT
Ksolem, some people feel the need to have guns to protect themselves, fair enough. Who am I to say no to that?

But why not at least try to ensure that those people who own guns do so responsibly? Safety inspections are required for cars... why not gun storage? 30+ hours of driver's ed is required to get a driver's license, why not AT LEAST as much for a gun license? People are required to register their vehicles and pay insurance in order to legally own and operate a vehicle, why not a gun? There are restrictions on what kind of fuel you can use in your car on highways (no nitrous), why not similarly limit high capacity magazines to shooting ranges?


Regardless, the answer to these mass shootings is not more guns. The NRA has got to be full of complete idiots to even suggest that.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 11, 2013 - 07:12pm PT

Require a criminal background check for every gun sold in America.

Ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines that enable mass killing.

Make gun trafficking a federal crime, with stiff penalties for those who arm criminals.

So what's the objection?

http://www.demandaplan.org/sandyhook
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 11, 2013 - 07:44pm PT
Yes, GET MAD!

Why are gun nuts generally religious people... who like to get MAD and YELL and freak the fuk out and call for violent uprisings?

Jesus Christ folks... get a fuking grip. All you self-proclaimed Christians should be speaking out against these fuking morons who promote violence and intolerance and wouldn't know Jesus if he gave them a hand job. Instead, all I hear from religious folks is praise for idiots like Alex Jones.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Jan 11, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
Require a criminal background check for every gun sold in America.

Already law here in Ca., I got no problem with that.

Ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines that enable mass killing

I don't think that will affect the actions of a deranged psychopath. I realize there has to be a line somewhere regarding personal firepower, but legislating my personal mag capacity down to ten rounds will not make any difference except to me.

Make gun trafficking a federal crime, with stiff penalties for those who arm criminals.

I'm good with that, let's start with our own DOJ... and isn't trafficking in weapons already a Federal crime?
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Jan 11, 2013 - 08:38pm PT
Retroactively? That's what they're talking about.

You're talking about enforcing existing law. It is illegal for a convicted felon or parolee to own or handle, or even be around a firearm.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 11, 2013 - 08:45pm PT
Connecticut has come up with the BARNEY FIFE bill,,,ONLY single shot weapons of any type,, all others BANNED.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 11, 2013 - 08:47pm PT
according to the DOJ,, approx 3.5 to 4 million guns were used in self defense without any one being shot each year...Those are incidents where the perps were convinced by show of a weapon to leave.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 11, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
Also, anyone with a "connection to terrorism" would have their gun rights stripped - meaning most of the gun nuts on this thread who vouched for their gun ownership as a means of attacking the gov't would be stripped, and their weapons confiscated.


Also wrong. We've "vouched" our gun ownership as a means of repelling a tyrannical government, as per the Second Amendment in the Constitution of the United States of America.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:02pm PT
If that is the sort of language that will get me accused of domestic terrorism, than it's already a tyrannical government.


It's a sad day, that morons like you, aren't restricted on internet access.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:10pm PT
You're a paranoid lunatic.
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:11pm PT
Typical gunnut. A lunatic masquerading as a patriot. Most have the IQ of a flea.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/state-suspends-handgun-carry-permit-of-tactical-response?ref=fpa
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:11pm PT
sorry hedgewad YOUR RONG... Those ARE DEPT OF JUSTICE FIGURES go see for yourself,, those are guns used in a self defense manner...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:15pm PT
If that is the sort of language that will get me accused of domestic terrorism, than it's already a tyrannical government.

What makes the threats of civil war by Alex Jones or any of the other nuts any different than those of Awlaki?

And it is thEn, not thAn.

It's a sad day, that morons like you, aren't restricted on internet access.

Right... because fuk the 1st amendment, we'll just skip to the second. I really hope for your sake that was intentional irony.
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:16pm PT
Ron is drunk posting again. Gonna be a long night.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
And it is thEn, not thAn.

Every time you post, I roll my eyes and say "Christ"

Not because you're giving me an orgasm, you silly goose, but because you find little things like "then" and "than" to try and deflate my level of intelligence.

Incoming "What intelligence?"

If that is the sort of language that will get me accused of domestic terrorism, than it's already a tyrannical government.
What makes the threats of civil war by Alex Jones or any of the other nuts any different than those of Awlaki?

Awlaki joined a known terrorist organization.
Awlaki indirectly attacked American Citizens.


Alex Jones YELLS A LOT AND SAYS A LOT OF STUFF BUT IS NOT IN VIOLATION OF ANYTHING. Freedom of Speech, First Amendment, which brings us to;


It's a sad day, that morons like you, aren't restricted on internet access.

Right... because fuk the 1st amendment, we'll just skip to the second. I really hope for your sake that was intentional irony.

;) There are no restriction on him, because of the First Amendment, where there are already hundreds of restrictions on the Second Amendment across the Country.

michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:26pm PT
You wouldn't be here as a free man, if it weren't for a bunch of "children in men's body with gun fetishisms'."


Know what the Minute Men are?

In World War II, my Great Grandfather got called to grab his rifle and go to the Capitol Street Bridge in Sacramento and be on watch for Japanese boats/submarines coming up the river.

Japanese halted the attacks after Pearl Harbor, even when they knew that there was no Navy between them and the rest of the US Soils. They knew that behind every door was a rifle.


crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:29pm PT
Jg, are you trying to change the mind of a gunNUT? You know that's not possible, right? You know about the operation they've all had? Seen the zipper on the back of their neck?
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:33pm PT
No zipper. Just pale skin and big ears.

Credit: michaeld
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:37pm PT
Japanese halted the attacks after Pearl Harbor, even when they knew that there was no Navy between them and the rest of the US Soils. They knew that behind every door was a rifle.

Fantasies are fun.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 11, 2013 - 09:39pm PT
OMG - I am arguing with a child, as I thought.


Funny, I was thinking the same thing. Glad there is at least one adult around here.


Japanese halted the attacks after Pearl Harbor, even when they knew that there was no Navy between them and the rest of the US Soils. They knew that behind every door was a rifle.

Fantasies are fun.

I don't fantasize about that happening. That would mean I couldn't go climbing. Just stating some history. Know any?
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