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Salamanizer

Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
Dec 2, 2012 - 05:36pm PT
The Grendel round is 6.5mm.

Oops, that's what I meant. Obviously I need to slow down my typing so my brain can catch up.

The Grendel was SAAIM standardized so there are alot of manufacturers making it now. It also has far superior ballistics, punches harder at distance and reaches way beyond the capabilities of the 6.8. It was purpose built to fit the AR platform so I think all you need is barrel, bolt and mag. I'm probably just going to buy a complete upper and keep things simple. Either way, it's quickly gaining popularity in the shooting world and I wouldn't be surprised if it overtook the 6.8 in sales. There's even rumor the Military is looking into it as a replacement for both the 5.56 and 7.62, but I personally doubt it.
Just saying it's something worth looking into.
perswig

climber
Dec 2, 2012 - 06:26pm PT
Minerals, replied to your email - send an addy.
Also, 6.8 seems such a good carbine/CQ round, 16" would be ample?

Dale
QITNL

climber
Dec 3, 2012 - 07:53pm PT
Any of you catch this yesterday? It started here:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jovan-belcher-kansas-city-chiefs-murder-suicide-tragedy-girlfriend-self-leave-orphan-daughter-why-still-playing-sunday-120112

Our current gun culture simply ensures that more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy, and that more convenience-store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenage boys bloodied and dead.

In the coming days, Belcher’s actions will be analyzed through the lens of concussions and head injuries. Who knows? Maybe brain damage triggered his violent overreaction to a fight with his girlfriend. What I believe is, if he didn’t possess/own a gun, he and Kasandra Perkins would both be alive today.

That is the message I wish Chiefs players, professional athletes and all of us would focus on Sunday and moving forward. Handguns do not enhance our safety. They exacerbate our flaws, tempt us to escalate arguments, and bait us into embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it.

But we won’t. We’ll watch Sunday’s game and comfort ourselves with the false belief we’re incapable of the wickedness that exploded inside Jovan Belcher Saturday morning.

Bob Costas ran with it at halftime on Sunday Night Football:



Whoa, thought I. And as I expected, unhappy campers are complaining about Costas today.

Edit - good one, TGT!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 3, 2012 - 08:05pm PT
Salamanizer

Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
Dec 3, 2012 - 08:49pm PT
Yeah, good thing O.J. didn't have a gun.

What a complete moron. Is he so conceded that he actually believes anyone would or should give a sh#t what he thinks?

Does anyone really think taking guns out of the hands of your average responsible citizen is going to make the world a safer place?

"But we only want to ensure that we take guns off the streets and out of the hands of gangs and other irresponsible violent people."
Well, we already have tons of laws that are supposed to do that. See how well that worked?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 3, 2012 - 10:39pm PT
They'll pry nature's sushi knife out of his cold dead hand,..







Really Costas!
(He's just asking to be croaked by a texting driver)


edit' I bet Costas is a tosser!
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 3, 2012 - 11:18pm PT
Still haven't seen any arguments for allowing everybody to possess guns that couldn't be applied equally to possessing sarin (and it's got such a purdy mouf).






Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 3, 2012 - 11:35pm PT
I got no problem with anyone possessing anything.

It's what people do that matters.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Dec 3, 2012 - 11:50pm PT
Still haven't seen any arguments for allowing everybody to possess guns that couldn't be applied equally to possessing sarin

Sarin is not a very effective means of self defense. Sarin is not very good for hunting game. Sarin is inherently unsafe even in the hands of law abiding citizens. Even the military will not use sarin. Need I go on?

zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Dec 3, 2012 - 11:56pm PT
Sarin is not a very effective means of self defense. Sarin is not very good for hunting game. Sarin is inherently unsafe even in the hands of law abiding citizens. Even the military will not use sarin. Need I go on?

Have you tried it in self-defense or hunting game?

Guns are inherently unsafe even it the hands of law-abiding citizens.

Military will use it, just haven't yet.

Feel free to go on, but I doubt that you will ever get anywhere, since you don't seem to get it.



Minerals

Social climber
The Deli
Dec 4, 2012 - 12:06am PT
Salamanizer, I’m pretty set on a 6.8, but will look into the 6.5 to learn more about the round.

Anyone else on the 6.8 SPC?

Thanks, Dale! Email reply sent.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 4, 2012 - 08:22pm PT
Just back from an all day shooting trip on the Arizona Strip.

Sunny, 60 degrees, little wind, flat ground for miles. Totally bitchin'.


We stopped off at the WalMart coming back to see about my partner getting her boss some ammo for his new AR, but the shelves are bare!
Looks like history is repeating itself again.

Glad I'm well stocked.
Maybe soon I'll sell off some .45s in Vegas.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 9, 2012 - 08:58pm PT
http://doubleplusundead.com/2012/12/03/an-open-letter-to-bob-costas-and-jason-whitlock/
xtrmecat

Big Wall climber
Kalispell, Montanagonia
Dec 9, 2012 - 09:09pm PT
Gun control laws make as much sense as making laws harder for law abiding citizens to purchase an auto.


Burly Bob
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 9, 2012 - 09:56pm PT
Cars don't kill people. Women driv,..uh,..er,.. crappy drivers kill people!
nick d

Trad climber
nm
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:40pm PT
Having a gun makes everyone safer dontcha know. Just ask this guy.

Police: Boy, 7, shot to death at Pa. gun store

(AP) – 1 day ago

MERCER, Pa. (AP) — A man's handgun went off while he was holding it as he got into his truck in the parking lot of a western Pennsylvania gun store Saturday, and the shot killed his 7-year-old son, authorities said.

Joseph V. Loughrey, 44, of Sharpsville, was getting into the truck when the 9 mm handgun discharged, wounding Craig Allen Loughrey in the chest, according to state police. The boy died at the scene at Twigs Reloading Den in East Lackawannock Township, 60 miles north of Pittsburgh.

Investigators said Loughrey told them he didn't realize there was a bullet still in the chamber. "This happens all too often where people think the gun was empty," Lt. Eric Hermick told The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

Loughrey was trying to sell two guns at the store — one a scope rifle and the other, the handgun, state police said. The owners told Loughrey the store doesn't buy guns so Loughrey and his son returned to the truck with them. Loughrey put the boy in the passenger seat and loaded the rifle into the truck, state police said. He was attempting to get inside and reached to put the handgun in the center storage console when it fired, they said.

Loughrey was questioned by state police, who said he was cooperative and distraught. The shooting is being investigated as an accident, although Loughrey could face charges, including manslaughter and negligence, Hermick told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

"I know that little kid was everything to him," Mark McLaughlin of Fredonia, a friend and co-worker of Loughrey's at Superior Well Services in Fredonia, told the Tribune-Review.

Messages left for the coroner's office and at a listing in Loughrey's name were not immediately returned.
this just in

climber
north fork
Dec 9, 2012 - 11:48pm PT
My boss has got the 6.8 with a 16.5 barrel, the gun is badass. Ammo is kinda hard to find but same with the 6.5. His is a franklin arms.
xtrmecat

Big Wall climber
Kalispell, Montanagonia
Dec 10, 2012 - 07:16am PT
I read that article yesterday, along with several articles of highway fatalities. Nick, your logic isn't.

Burly Bob
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Dec 10, 2012 - 11:22am PT
I read the article about the 7yr old a few days ago. So sad. It really hammers home the point that no matter who you are eventually you will have an AD. The only thing that keeps that AD from being a tradgedy is constant muzzel control dicipline and luck. Even Navy Seals have AD's.

The average gun owner is far more at risk of some sort of tradgedy than they are likly to use the gun to be a hero and save the day..

Speaking of heros. Sam Eliot kicks Clint's arse any day of the week as a western actor.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Dec 10, 2012 - 11:22am PT
I watched the game last night, and I don't remember Bob Costas saying anything about the fact that if Dallas dude didn't have such easy access to an automobile, his buddy would still be alive.

I saw a frightening stat recently: 100% of NFL players own cars!
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