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DickMcfartin

Ice climber
soewhere over the rainbow....
Apr 9, 2013 - 12:14am PT
Simple in depth background checks would be a great start. And i mean in depth background checks not some B.S. check full of loopholes. If you or anyone else in your home has any kind of questionable background of "any sort" the answer should be no gun for you plain and fing simple.

If you move or someone moves in with you the proper authorities should have to be notified prior and background checks run on that person. In the case they are not notified mandatory minimum sentences should be instituted plain and simple.

It is pretty simple. In this day and age 2nd amendment as it is we should be well beyond passing laws requiring intensive first party background checks. There should be no second party anything related to guns plain and freaking simple. And proper background checks shoulda been well in place a long long time ago!!

jghedge

climber
Apr 9, 2013 - 12:16am PT

Good to see this issue getting the attention it deserves

But funny how the experience of other countries isn't part of the discussion, when they offer the most relevant real-world examples of what should be done, and how it would work.

Probably because including countries that have outlawed guns in the discussion would suggest we need to outlaw them too...and nobody wants to go there

Yet

Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Apr 9, 2013 - 12:29am PT
How many of you have been showm how to properly handle a gun and have also shot more than 200 rounds of ammo?

Many of us are military veterans. And few of us are completely "anti-gun." I started hunting at the age of twelve.

I've handled more firepower than any of the pro-gun folks on this thread - more than the ones who hoard ammo in their basement, thinking they can overthrow the military by applying their plinking experience.

Gotta admit, it would be kinda fun to watch them try...
thebird

Big Wall climber
palm desert, ca.
Apr 9, 2013 - 12:39am PT
Guns are not the problem, I wish it was so simple but its not. Its said that by using common sence we should change our constitution's 2nd amendment, which if I recall says "The right to bear arms shall no be infringed". "Common sence is those prejudices learned before the age of eighteen": Albert Einstien. The 2nd amendment is written as is for three reasons: 1) For securing food. 2)protection of self, family and property. 3)to enable the citizery to rise up against a dictatorial government.
Why are the Democrats so bent on changing the constitution by distorting the meaning of the words and therefore the interpertation of this document. If you live in California, just try to buy ammunition for a gun.
Its not easy because the government has bought most of the ammunition with our money.
An ignorrant people can never be a free people. Surely unless a free people are educated---taught to think intelligently and plan wisely---freedom does more harm than good! I am not politicly affilliated.
jghedge

climber
Apr 9, 2013 - 12:48am PT
Uh oh

We're in trouble now

Another Einstein-ism:

“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.”
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 9, 2013 - 01:21am PT
Yea GhoulweJ, I was kind of snappy. You didn't deserve that. Sorry, I just hate the "anti gun" label. I enjoy shooting my guns, but not everyone should be able to walk into a gun store an buy a killing machine as long as they are not a felon. I would be very upset if anyone I was close to had to get an abortion, but I think EVERY WOMAN has the right to get one if they decide it is the right choice.



BTW, my common sense says there is no 'c' in sense. Furthermore, without changing ANY DEFINITIONS IN ANY WAY, tighter regulations on firearm SALES does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to infringe on anyone's right to keep and bare them.
jghedge

climber
Apr 9, 2013 - 01:42am PT

Scientists Discover Psychological Basis For Gun Fetishism

http://healthland.time.com/2013/04/08/size-does-matter-study-shows-women-judge-male-attractiveness-by-penis-size/

hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 9, 2013 - 01:52am PT
"I enjoy shooting my guns, but not everyone should be able to walk into a gun store an buy a [gun] as long as they are not a felon. I would be very upset if anyone I was close to had to get an abortion, but I think EVERY WOMAN has the right to get one if they decide it is the right choice."

+1

Don't call me an obamanut either please. But that's a different thread, and for the record, I think just about all politicians are shyte.

And don't forget, there's plenty of people who consider abortion murder, so there's another spin-off debate... murder by gun vs murder by abortion? Which do we outlaw first?
Dems are pro-choice. Cons are pro-gun. Someone out there thinks both are murder. Someone else thinks you ought to have a right to both.
Whatever. At some point when we chip away at enough personal choices, we leave freedom behind us.



Make everyone pass a background, increase the mental health reporting, then let people buy whatever the hell kind they want (they passed the background, right?).

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................................
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 9, 2013 - 01:58am PT
Maybe women who are felons should be barred from having abortions. It's not like a felon should expect to enjoy the same rights regular people do.
moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
Apr 9, 2013 - 02:17am PT
“To understand everything is to forgive everything.”
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
Apr 9, 2013 - 02:50am PT
and people who own guns being required to know how to use them

Since when has this been a problem. They are fairly simple to operate.
jghedge

climber
Apr 9, 2013 - 03:37am PT
How do we get our gun deaths down to the level of the other developed industrialized democracies, comparable to ours, without outlawing them, as they all have done

Yet another subject no one will touch with or without a ten foot pole
xtrmecat

Big Wall climber
Kalispell, Montanagonia
Apr 9, 2013 - 07:44am PT
Hedge,
Noone wants to relinquish any of our rights. Once they are gone, they are gone.

Also it seems very apparent noone wants unjustified deaths. Pretty simple really.

Burly Bob
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Apr 9, 2013 - 08:00am PT
I want to be able to grocery shop with a machine gun just in case some wing-nut pulls a glock in the 15 and under line when he forgets his Vons card and snaps...
saghi

Trad climber
Apr 9, 2013 - 09:38am PT
How do we get our gun deaths down to the level of the other developed industrialized democracies, comparable to ours, without outlawing them, as they all have done

Yet another subject no one will touch with or without a ten foot pole

I've answered you twice already, I think. Maybe just once....

Do something about the people pulling the trigger! If you did that, a lot more problems would be solved than just the murder problem.

If you think the government has our best interest in mind, you are foolish.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 9, 2013 - 10:48am PT
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-75265544/?related=true

hmm... didnt mention guns...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 9, 2013 - 11:05am PT
This should clear it up for you hillrat...

They asked 100 Australian women...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/03/us-usa-guns-australia-idUSBRE9320C720130403


I know what you are thinking, that is a pretty short time to see the effects of natural selection. But it can happen. And evolutionary trends can exceed ideal conditions, from what I've been told.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 9, 2013 - 11:17am PT
i get a response error, much like my dating attempts in high school.

where did Ron go? that was a nice palin pic. need somethin else to brighten up the mornin.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 9, 2013 - 11:27am PT
why im right here! Just reading how the gun confiscations will go in NY due to their safe act. Im thinkin NY will soon have to more issues. One,, they will loose many people from their tax base and 2) they will have many new "outlaws"..


and to the cyber snoopers of the NDAA,,, IM NOT ON ANY mind altering drugs/prescrips..



http://www.ammoland.com/2013/04/new-york-gun-confiscation-underway/#axzz2Pyis3IbV
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 9, 2013 - 11:30am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson


Defiance,,its whuts fer breakfast!
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