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Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 8, 2013 - 06:13pm PT
say, how is Caribou Barbie doing nowadays?

just think, she had an outside chance of being one John McCain heartbeat away from Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces.

party of National Security my ass
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Apr 8, 2013 - 06:29pm PT
Weschrist wrote:

Tell us Jebz, what is your role in all of this?

I'm Batman.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 8, 2013 - 06:32pm PT
and im the Lizard KING!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 8, 2013 - 07:38pm PT
When i was in the Seventh Special Forces we played around with Uzi submachine guns, M79 grenade launchers and C4 plastic explosives.......they should be in every household.

I have a nicely framed portrait of Charlton Heston above my bed.

Now can i come out and play?

But i think Sarah Palin is kind of a dog....does that disqualify me?
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Apr 8, 2013 - 07:58pm PT
She is such a sweetheart ;)

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mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2013 - 08:24pm PT
thought you were only supposed to finger the trigger when you were ready to shoot
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Apr 8, 2013 - 08:40pm PT
So many points that need to be responded to. Wish I could keep up with these are work, but apparently they now want me to work while at work...

We have never had a coordinated federal effort to ensure the competence and responsibility of gun purchasers. We don't KNOW if it will reduce crime, but clearly when anyone who hasn't been convicted of a felony (yet) can walk into a gun store and buy 2 guns a week without raising any flags, something should be changed.

When someone who HAS been convicted of a felony can walk into a gun show and walk out with as many guns as he can carry, or walk into a gun store and walk out with as much ammo as he can afford something MUST be changed.

Im not req,d to have a safe. i,m not req,d to unload them. Im not req,d to send my kid to hunter safety or teach her safe handling or to GTFO if someone else messes w a gun. But that will all get done, or is currently being done. it seems common sense to me.

That's the problem with common sense, it's not very common. Few states have any meaningful legal requirements for the appropriate storage of guns.

Only if you choose to use your vehicle in public. A vehicle kept and driven solely on private property is exempt from those regulations.

But once you drive that car outside your own property the absence of tags and registration would allow any LEO to realize that you are committing an offense. Here in PA, excluding Philly city limits, open carry of a loaded firearm by anyone over 18 is permitted, police are permitted to ask why you're standing with a loaded gun outside the fence of an elementary school, but should you fail to respond, there is nothing they can legally do until you start shooting.


you mean there are some states that hand out CCWs without ANY proficiency testing?
can you name a couple, just curious as I had no idea it was that easy to get one?

PA requires nothing for an LCF except a fee. Carrying a concealed weapon without a license is only a misdemeanor if the person is not otherwise prohibited from getting that license. Someone ineligible to get a license would only face a third degree felony. Stiff penalties, bound to deter criminals...

http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=512&objID=4451&&PageID=462424&mode=2

TE







mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2013 - 09:19pm PT
Here in PA, excluding Philly city limits, open carry of a loaded firearm by anyone over 18 is permitted, police are permitted to ask why you're standing with a loaded gun outside the fence of an elementary school, but should you fail to respond, there is nothing they can legally do until you start shooting.

That is fuk'd up. How could ANYONE NOT want to work like hell to get that changed?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2013 - 10:11pm PT
In that case I disagree. I hate that Wes guy... total pussy.
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Apr 8, 2013 - 10:55pm PT
That is fuk'd up. How could ANYONE NOT want to work like hell to get that changed?

According to our wonderful Governor, because "no additional restrictions on the rights of law abiding citizens can stop violent predators intent on committing crime."

From the same Governor who happily signed a bill requiring photo ID in order to vote, clearly shows the complete hypocrisy of the current Republican party. When challenged in court, the state could not find a single verified instance of in-person voter fraud ever, yet found it appropriate to restrict everyone's right to vote.

It took a dead police officer for the same Governor to enact a law to impose meaningful punishment on straw purchasers. I dread to think what it would take for him to even consider universal background checks.

On a bright note, 18 months until they find out that Democracy means NOT needing guns to overthrow the government.

TE


GhoulweJ

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Apr 8, 2013 - 11:07pm PT
Just courious, those of who are "anti gun":

How many of you have been showm how to properly handle a gun and have also shot more than 200 rounds of ammo?

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2013 - 11:48pm PT
For the curious, I've been shooting since as early as I can remember. Must have been 5 or so.

Just curious, for those of you who are anti-abortion, how many have you had?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 8, 2013 - 11:51pm PT
who cares
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 8, 2013 - 11:53pm PT
GhoulweJ

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Apr 9, 2013 - 12:00am PT
Wow
You guys seem pretty snippy.

I was just wondering because its been my experience that once people are educated about handling a firearm and get some rounds down range, they become less concerned about them.

You guys can continue yelling at one another. I'm going to continue with my climbing plans.

Cheers
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Apr 9, 2013 - 12:29am PT
How many of you have been showm how to properly handle a gun and have also shot more than 200 rounds of ammo?

Many of us are military veterans. And few of us are completely "anti-gun." I started hunting at the age of twelve.

I've handled more firepower than any of the pro-gun folks on this thread - more than the ones who hoard ammo in their basement, thinking they can overthrow the military by applying their plinking experience.

Gotta admit, it would be kinda fun to watch them try...
thebird

Big Wall climber
palm desert, ca.
Apr 9, 2013 - 12:39am PT
Guns are not the problem, I wish it was so simple but its not. Its said that by using common sence we should change our constitution's 2nd amendment, which if I recall says "The right to bear arms shall no be infringed". "Common sence is those prejudices learned before the age of eighteen": Albert Einstien. The 2nd amendment is written as is for three reasons: 1) For securing food. 2)protection of self, family and property. 3)to enable the citizery to rise up against a dictatorial government.
Why are the Democrats so bent on changing the constitution by distorting the meaning of the words and therefore the interpertation of this document. If you live in California, just try to buy ammunition for a gun.
Its not easy because the government has bought most of the ammunition with our money.
An ignorrant people can never be a free people. Surely unless a free people are educated---taught to think intelligently and plan wisely---freedom does more harm than good! I am not politicly affilliated.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 9, 2013 - 01:21am PT
Yea GhoulweJ, I was kind of snappy. You didn't deserve that. Sorry, I just hate the "anti gun" label. I enjoy shooting my guns, but not everyone should be able to walk into a gun store an buy a killing machine as long as they are not a felon. I would be very upset if anyone I was close to had to get an abortion, but I think EVERY WOMAN has the right to get one if they decide it is the right choice.



BTW, my common sense says there is no 'c' in sense. Furthermore, without changing ANY DEFINITIONS IN ANY WAY, tighter regulations on firearm SALES does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to infringe on anyone's right to keep and bare them.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 9, 2013 - 01:52am PT
"I enjoy shooting my guns, but not everyone should be able to walk into a gun store an buy a [gun] as long as they are not a felon. I would be very upset if anyone I was close to had to get an abortion, but I think EVERY WOMAN has the right to get one if they decide it is the right choice."

+1

Don't call me an obamanut either please. But that's a different thread, and for the record, I think just about all politicians are shyte.

And don't forget, there's plenty of people who consider abortion murder, so there's another spin-off debate... murder by gun vs murder by abortion? Which do we outlaw first?
Dems are pro-choice. Cons are pro-gun. Someone out there thinks both are murder. Someone else thinks you ought to have a right to both.
Whatever. At some point when we chip away at enough personal choices, we leave freedom behind us.



Make everyone pass a background, increase the mental health reporting, then let people buy whatever the hell kind they want (they passed the background, right?).

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................................
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 9, 2013 - 01:58am PT
Maybe women who are felons should be barred from having abortions. It's not like a felon should expect to enjoy the same rights regular people do.
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