it's what you bring to it. i've looked at yoga several times and can't see an advantage in it for me. focus, discipline, challenge, meditation--i get all these things in climbing, and i think quite a bit more. i see lots of people getting nowhere with yoga, thinking it's some sort of substitute for exercise. as for martial arts, i decided long ago i didn't want to make that kind of weapon out of myself.
this is not to denigrate the paths others take. i see lots of parallels. i just think that climbing and mountaineering can have the same things going, spiritually, as other paths and perhaps even more. but climbing can also be trivialized or reduced to meanness. it's your choice what you do with it.
Tony, all I can say is that I've done a whole lot of climbing, and at the same time been misled by Yoga (as into hypermobility stuff) and also really educated by Yoga in ways I could never have figured out just from climbing.
The whole concept that the best training for climbing is climbing is shortsighted. It works up to a point... then one must open the mind to new things.
Climbing for humans is way older than Ti Chi. Humans have lost some of the particular joint angle dexterity, finger sizes and the apish walk that make their cousins the best.
Homo Sapiens knew how to climb long before the Buddha uttered those now famous words.
Go figure: What have we lost and what have we gained?
The reach for Ti Chi is simply a head trip available in all the diversity we make to entertain our shortcomings. Can you teach a chimpanzee Ti Chi? Maybe he would go through the motions for a treat. But can you get him to ritualize a routine like doing Ti Chi?
Our genetics are quite diverse and in the quest for personal improvement our unchecked mind motivated strategies can take us on many side trips. But alas, we seldom measure results as in doing an experiment to see if such pursuits are optimal. And so we fumble.
So I do not see that climbers have much to offer in knowledge to these ancient disciplines, rather I think it is the other way around.
And I agree with what Mr Cole wrote. Hi Scott!!!
Taking my yoga teacher training this month. It's a very old practice and climbing, while also ancient, has not a codification in the manner of , say, the Yoga Sutras.
Astrology is an ancient practice. Scientology is nicely "codified." Whether Yoga or Tai Chi is useful for climbing (in the sense of better than climbing itself, not better than sitting on a couch), I don't know, but it'll take evidence based research to convince me, not just old mumbo jumbo.
If people have fun doing it, great, lots of people like reading their horoscope.
Tai Chi (Tai Ji Quan), and climbing. my experience has been that these two practices do inform one another. I've been climbing for about 23 years and practicing tai ji for about 16 years. Tai Ji trains relaxed, efficient, whole body movement, among many other things. In the last 10 years or so I haven't done a huge amount of climbing but I've found that with my Tai Ji and Qi Gong training, I've maintained an ability to climb at a reasonable level, maybe 1 full number grade lower than when I was climbing all the time. What does climbing do for Tai Ji? Hard to say, an ability to focus on a physical discipline, a connection to the natural world... Learning Tai Ji is a long process, not unlike being a truly competent rock climber. Try it out and see if it resonates with you. I'm not sure that I would pursue Tai Ji if my motivation was solely to improve my rock climbing. Other Chinese martial arts like Shao Lin Gongfu might be more useful in terms of tendon strengthening practices.
If one is interested in applying Tai Ji movement principles to rock climbing, as an earlier posting noted, training with a teacher who understands martial applications would be useful. I have yet to completely integrate Tai Ji into rock climbing, and making rock climbing an "internal art", an interesting project though.