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The Alpine

Big Wall climber
Jun 5, 2012 - 04:42pm PT
Of course lets not forget FA potential.

From a recent thread - the one, the only, Cyclorama Wall:


http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1764023&msg=1840795#msg1840795
micronut

Trad climber
Jun 5, 2012 - 05:17pm PT
BUBBS CREEK WALL

"One pitch short of the top, a storm pinned us down, turning the final beautiful 5.11 corner into a gushing toilet. Seeking shelter, I girth hitched a prickly shrub and huddled beneath it to no avail. As I shivered, Dave came up and found an easier exit out left. Relieved at our escape, we turned to bragging about our route, Bubb's Creek Wall (V 5.12, 16 pitches), while we coiled our wet ropes. But that last missed pitch still sticks in my mind."
P. Croft

limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Jun 5, 2012 - 08:00pm PT
Bump for a good fun thread!
Thomas

Trad climber
The Tilted World
Jun 5, 2012 - 08:52pm PT
Awesome and inspirational. This is a worthy thread!

Cheers!
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Jun 5, 2012 - 09:12pm PT
That Miriam area is sure beautiful, Royce Lakes are above 12,000'. Good choice!
The Alpine

Big Wall climber
Jun 5, 2012 - 09:17pm PT
Alright, who's got the info on Tyndall? Peeps keep saying its been freed. I would like to hear about that.

guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jun 5, 2012 - 09:22pm PT
for the record... on the climb, From Afar in the GOD they spelled my name wrong.... they spelled it "?" .... it's spelled Keesee... shoot I even drilled some bolts on the 11 section getting to the crack.... and I figured out pitch #2..... I even fixed tiny stoppers so we didn't put in bolts.

But no worries, it's the best route ever, if it was by a road folks would line up to send it.

and if you go there, you get to boulder and hang out at one of the coolest spots in the Sierra.... no lie, no hype... I won't spill the beans about just what your going to find, cause the gvmnt would shut the place down if they knew.

The Alpine

Big Wall climber
Jun 5, 2012 - 09:24pm PT
Wow, nice hang.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jun 6, 2012 - 02:17am PT
mirin the rock bra
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Jun 6, 2012 - 04:13am PT
Several free routes on Mt. Watkins, Yasoo Dome, Half Dome and Quarter Dome meet the criteria for this list - 2+ hours from the road,
unless you get more specific about a minimum altitude for High Sierra
(then Castle Rock Spire gets dropped also).

Mt. Watkins
2026. The Twisted Road 5.11c, 19p
2029. Mt. Watkins - South Face 5.13a or 5.11d A0 **, 19p
2034. Land of the New Rising Sun 5.11a, 14p
2035. Escape From Freedom 5.12c **, 18p

Yasoo Dome
2038. The Chief 5.12b ***, 15p
2039. Peacepipe 5.11d A0, 15p?, 60' A0 bolt ladder at 2/3

East Quarter Dome
2044. Pegasus 5.12 or 5.9 A2, 17p

West Quarter Dome
2047. Quarter Pounder 5.11b, 4p

Half Dome - N/NW Face
2055. Half Dome - Regular Northwest Face 5.12 or 5.9 C1 ***, 24p
2057. Arcturus 5.13c, 24p
2061. Half Dome - Direct Northwest Face 5.13c/d **, 24p

Half Dome - SW Face
2081. On the Edge 5.11b R *, 6p
2085. Two Hoofers 5.12 or 5.10b A0, 7p
2086. Blond Ike 5.11b R, 7p

Half Dome - South Face
2092. Road Rage 5.11?, 6p
2093. Dreamscape 5.11d **, 9p
2094. The Fast Lane 5.11d R **, 8p
2095. Autobahn 5.11d R **, 12p

Half Dome - Southeast Face
2101. Growing Up 5.13a A0, 20p
2103. Southern Belle 5.12d R ***, 14p
2104. Karma 5.11d A0, 13p

Pearly Gates (sub dome on R side of Half Dome South Face)
2105. Laid to Rest 5.11c A0, 8p

Dome Baez
2171. Diamonds and Rust 5.11b R *, 4p
2174. Walkabout 5.11a *, 7p

Dome SE of Starr King
2189. Anonymous Heironymous 5.11b, 3p
2190. un DE a 5.11c, 3p
2191. Colonel and the Chickenheads 5.12a, 4p
2192. True West 5.11b, 4p
2193. un DE b 5.11a, 4p
2194. un DE c 5.12a, 3p

There are also some long hard routes on the Fuller Buttes and Balloon Dome.
They are similarly not very high altitude.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jun 6, 2012 - 02:10pm PT
So to be a hard man one has to lead 5.11s+ these days? What is the criteria?
The Alpine

Big Wall climber
Jun 6, 2012 - 02:12pm PT
Hardman definitely requires a minimum of 5.11.
Impaler

Social climber
Berkeley
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 6, 2012 - 02:46pm PT
I figured that there's a boatload of 5.10s in the mountains here, but very few routes 5.11 or harder. So, the criteria is there to keep the list shorter and try to identify the most challenging routes. If we restrict it to 5.12 we'd have almost nothing to talk about...

Clint, somehow all that stuff you suggested doesn't fit in. Perhaps, castle rock spire is also too low in elevation. I think that Bubbs creek wall and Gorge of Despair barely make the cut being just short of 10,000 ft. But then there's the Tehipite Dome, that's also in the wilderness, but at fairly low elevation. Perhaps, I should take those out.

I also just added Blacksmith Peak to the list after looking through my guidebook. Never heard of anyone doing this route. Has anyone been on it?

By the way, what's the proper spelling of Chamberl(a)in? I see it spelled differently in different places.
The Alpine

Big Wall climber
Jun 6, 2012 - 03:03pm PT
No a in Chamberlin.

Here's an Imoninata Topo from Nettle:

franky

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Jun 6, 2012 - 03:04pm PT
"The Wall Above Big Five" V 5.11

cruised up Sawtooth the other day to look at stuff in that area, still a bit to much snow to really get around easy in tennies.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Jun 6, 2012 - 03:10pm PT
1)Is there any ice lines that are hard-man worthy? (Ice nine? Clyde couloir?)
2)What if 'hard man' leads 11s but can TR 13s with comfort, is he still considered a hard man?


Personally I think doing stuff on those 'lower elevation domes' with 20 mile approaches is a lot more impressive/committing than those Hulk routes that have 2 hour approach and a crag feel to them. Don't have to be high in altitude to be in true wilderness.

The Alpine, hope you make it to Cyclorama wall, looks cool, and I think you have the skill required!
How would one know they are not climbing GR's route on it/or a variation of it? There is no indication of where their line is and description can match description of many lines...
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jun 6, 2012 - 03:20pm PT
Impaler Thank you for the edit....

The Oblesk has a real nice climb on it.

Hands of Fate. 5.10d.... done back in the 70s by big Al Bartlett and ??? (sorry to misspellyour name)

It's only 2.5 pitches long.

The High Sierra is tough to define....

Me- I look for the golden granite, California Gold I call it and it's the best stone for climbing.

Great topic
aldude

climber
Monument Manor
Jun 6, 2012 - 06:12pm PT
Urmas & I freed the Jones Flores route on Blacksmith Pk in 92' IV 5.11b. Four years later Nettle & Davis established another 5.11 route on this alpine beauty!!
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Jun 6, 2012 - 06:40pm PT
Beautiful shot of Tyndall! I had a great corn snow adventure up there, skate skiing, towing my snowboard..Skated around on the plateau, then climbed Tyndall up that rib coming in from the right side of the photo (the North Face) and snowboarded down to lookers right of the rib in the sunset, then rode down Shepard Pass in the dark, back to camp...Good Times!

Peter
Impaler

Social climber
Berkeley
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 6, 2012 - 08:07pm PT
Sweet! So, there's actually two worthy routes on Blacksmith. Nettle's and Davis' route is called "The Forge" and there's an overdue, but very gripping TR of the first ascent.

There's also a TR on the FA of Astrohulk by Mike Davis. When I climbed astrohulk, the enduro corner felt like a solid 5.11 to me, not 11+ like he describes. Perhaps, the little "loose flakes" have cleaned up in 12 years. However, I remember it being more of a very flared finger-sized crack. I can't even imaging placing a 4 camalot there. That's just crazy. Still, was a pretty scary lead for me. I was high as a kite after that!

This is new I thought, camping in Little Slide Canyon instead of going for it car-to-car. But Dave Nettle and I need some extra time to work on the first pitch. Dave and Tahoe free climbing ace Mike Carville had been working on a variation to Positive Vibrations IV (5.11a) earlier this year and had added a new start. They dubbed this pitch “Power Rangers,” and it involves technical and tricky 5.11+ moves. Nettle and I worked on this pitch in the afternoon and added a bolt to the bouldery first moves.

The next morning was quite cold, so Dave and I opted for the original 5.9 start and quickly climbed over the familiar first four pitches of Positive Vibes to a large ledge. It was almost a year ago to the day that Nettle and I huddled here waiting for a howling west wind to drop. Later, as we rapped off at my request, Nettle told me that this would be a good day in Patagonia. As I struggled with frozen fingers and my rap device, I made a mental note not to mention any desire to climb in Patagonia in front of Nettle again. But while today is late-September-cold, there is no wind and we cruise across easy ledges to the start of the Bard-Harrington “Suicide Route.” Here is where the business starts-three steep and sustained 5.11 pitches that include the wild detached flake known as “The Sea Serpent.” At the base of a large right-facing corner where the original route pendulums left, Dave drills two 3/8-inch bolts (by hand of course) in record time.

Now we’re finally in the sun, but the warmth does nothing to ease the sight of the desperate looking corner above. It’s beyond steep, and protection in the strange, rounded grainy crack looks non-existent. My assessment of this pitch (later named the “Enduro-Corner” after the fourth pitch of Astroman) would not be complete without the overriding fact that the man himself Dale Bard and High Sierra pioneer Bob Harrington had elected to swing out left to easier ground. I assumed they didn’t even want to aid the thing! Neither did I, so I passed the lead to Nettle.

Dave steps out of the belay into a full lie-back with his feet skating around on the thin loose flakes that line the crack. I try to adjust my belay so that if Dave falls he won’t end up in my lap. Dave manages to finagle in an unlikely number four Camalot that is tipped-out on the lip of the crack. Next, Nettle calls for tension. I pull in the slack and brace for impact. Nothing happens. The stem of the cam is completely horizontal and looks ready to snap. “I’m gonna drill,” Dave says, and gets busy. I’m more gripped than he is. I need to chalk up just to belay.

I look to the west and try to calculate the remaining daylight and the distance to the top. It’s going to be close. Dave finishes the bolt, clips in and lowers to the belay. “How’s it look above?” I ask. “More of the same,” he says as he checks out the rapidly sinking sun. “I may have to place the number four like that again.” After a quick drink of water Nettle is liebacking past the bolt. Another twenty feet go by before Dave places the four cam again in the same dicey manner. But instead of placing another bolt, Dave continues on and finally latches a loose flake way out from the shifting cam. I chalk up and brace myself to catch a huge fall. He’s too pumped to place gear to protect a mantel on to the flake. Dave says “watch me,” then manages to shake his way onto the flake.

The Sierra evening air is starting to cool as Dave continues up the corner to a big ledge. It takes every cubic centimeter of my forearms to follow the pitch without falling.“How hard do you think that was?” Dave asks. It takes me a minute to catch my breath, then I answer between gasp, “I don’t know, 5.11+ or 5.12a?” “You think?” Dave asks looking down the pitch. Then he says something that totally shocks me “I think I should rap back down and place a bolt to protect that section before the mantel” I look at Dave to make sure he’s serious, then shift my gaze to the setting sun. But my thoughts aren’t not only on the late hour. “Look Dave.” I begin. That was a real masterpiece of a lead; let the next guy do it.” While Nettle is thinking about this, I start eyeing the next pitch. “I just want people to repeat it,” he says as he’s hands me the small brass nuts. “You might need these.” I grab the nuts and say, “Listen Dave, this route’s been your gig from the beginning. If that’s what you wanna do, go for it.” As I rack the tiny nuts I look up and wonder where the hell am I going to place these? “Dave that lead was a moment in time, don’t discount it man” Dave smiles and I begin lacing up my shoes, then continue. “I’ve never seen doing first ascents as community service.” Dave gives up the argument with, “you’re on belay.”

I start leading out above the corner where I’m faced with a tricky maneuver that forces me back down to a good stance. If I fall here I will fly past Dave‘s belay and rattle down the corner. I think about placing a bolt, but after my speech on style, I decide to go for it. The move turns out to be much easier than expected. I finally plug in some pro and run out the rope to the North Ridge. Dave and I high tail it to the familiar summit via simul-climbing with an occasional belay. Dave signs the summit register:

“First ascent/link-up of Positive Vibes, Bard-Harrington, and Direct Finish, Astrohulk” IV (5.11+) F.A. Dave Nettle, Mike Davis 9/9”
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