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the kid
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 22, 2012 - 07:24am PT
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taking the lakers in 6 post to the next level...
So...i have a dilemma..
I am a long time SPURS fan..
I also really like the Thunder..
So this next match up for WCF will be very fun to watch..
I will stick with the Spurs because they are a complete TEAM and play TEAM ball. No raging egos on this team.
Popovich is a true team coach. Now that they have surrounded the aging 3 stars with some great young unknown talent they will go ALL THE WAY..
I think it will be the Celtics in the East..
Bring it on...
Kurt
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S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
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May 22, 2012 - 07:37am PT
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sorry, no argument here.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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May 22, 2012 - 11:41am PT
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Thunder if not this year then next. I can't believe Durtrant is only 23. So skinny but so good and Westbrook and Hardin aint bad either.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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May 22, 2012 - 12:30pm PT
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Thunder Pacers. Thunder in 6
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 22, 2012 - 02:34pm PT
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Dr J. was thin too, but he had definition. Durant proves that you don't need much muscle to shoot the ball.
I think I pointed out elsewhere that the Spurs will take it all.
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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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May 23, 2012 - 01:15am PT
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Thunder and Heat in the finals and the Heat in 6
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fsck
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May 23, 2012 - 01:18am PT
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GO SONICS!!!
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shipoopoi
Big Wall climber
oakland
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May 23, 2012 - 01:20am PT
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kid, like novinski and the mavs last year, no team will be able to stop the durant and the thunder. can anybody on the spurs guard this guy in the fourth quarter? shipoopi
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The Larry
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Moab, UT
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May 23, 2012 - 12:21pm PT
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Haslem and Pittman should be suspended for their Bush League play. Total bullSh!t.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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May 23, 2012 - 12:52pm PT
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The Thunder are all really humble. It doesn't make the news when Brooks benches one of them if it helps the game.
San Antonio is our model. Our GM came from San Antonio.
I don't know if we can beat them. It does look like the west has the tougher bracket again, though. We bitch slapped the Celtics and the Heat at home this year. Not so with San Antonio.
Spurs in 5 or 6. I would love for Indiana to make it to the Finals.
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J. Werlin
Social climber
Cedaredge, CO
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May 28, 2012 - 11:08am PT
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Good to see Manu back. Viva Ginobili!
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The Larry
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Moab, UT
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May 28, 2012 - 11:23am PT
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That was a good game last night. Thunder in 6.
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couchmaster
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May 28, 2012 - 11:26am PT
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I can't see the Celtics winning over Miami. I see a Miami- Spurs final. I like the Thunder, they have more first round draft picks starting than about anyone, but the slight edge goes to the Spurs on that one. Concur - the opening Spurs-Thunder game last night was phenomenal.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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May 28, 2012 - 11:34am PT
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Finals: Miami vs Spurs
Miami in 6
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The Larry
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Moab, UT
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May 28, 2012 - 11:41am PT
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No way Miami is going to beat the Spurs or Thunder. Lebron and his thugs will fail once again.
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Brandon-
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The Granite State.
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May 28, 2012 - 12:37pm PT
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As a New Englander, I'm obligated to root for the C's, but I just don't see them beating Miami this year. Who knows though, the game can be capricious.
OKC is going all the way.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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May 28, 2012 - 12:47pm PT
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OKC is fun to watch but i think they are lacking a big man inside who has basic scoring skills...I like watching Collison.. He is pretty consistent and is one of the original Sonics from Seattle...Spurs and Heat..Heat has too much 1 on 1 ..Spurs in 7...
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 29, 2012 - 10:13pm PT
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Half time report - Spurs sittin' on top of the world.
Future report - Heat cools, Spurs win it all. Pay Tim Duncan the respect he deserves. (All I'm askin' is his propers when he gets home) L. James heads back to Cleveland. ow many dead in Ohio? La lala la lala.
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S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
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May 29, 2012 - 10:39pm PT
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spurs up by 20...the streak continues
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nature
climber
CO
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May 29, 2012 - 10:40pm PT
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I actually think it'll be more like Miami in 5.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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May 29, 2012 - 11:11pm PT
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^ you talkin' 'bout Marco Rubio or what? Spurs in 6 unless they resurrect Shaq then Spurs in 5. D. Wade gonna be wadin' in the water, labron wishin' his name was Jessie. Watch out here comes Manu "Robert Ford" Ginobli and Sleepy Sam's cuz, Da Tim, or as us Alamo vets say "Da Timminator"
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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May 30, 2012 - 06:28pm PT
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I predict the Spurs will take a 2-0 lead over the Thunder and the Celtics will drop the first one against the Heat.
After that it's a bit foggy....
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the kid
Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
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Topic Author's Reply - May 30, 2012 - 06:32pm PT
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so after watching the Spurs put on a CLINIC on the Thunder for 2 nights now, gotta say they will be hard to beat.
Pop is a great coach, with a team of unselfish players that play team ball.
Good luck beating that.
Spurs will play heat in the finals. Spurs will win in 5 games.
kurt
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zBrown
Ice climber
mercenario de merced
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I guess Olrando Wooldridge didn't get an RIP thread. Dead at 52, from a chronic heart condition. I remember him flying down the court and throwing it down.
Horrible call in Miami. Probable game loser for Celtics. Rondo shoulda gone to the line. What game was that ref watching?
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zBrown
Ice climber
mercenario de merced
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It's been almost ten hears since Chick Hearn left us, but he left us somethings to think about:
"This game's in the refrigerator! The door's closed, the lights are out, the eggs are cooling, the butter's getting hard, and the Jell-O is jiggling...."
"Portland better put away the champagne and get out the bottled water 'cause that's all they're gonna be drinking on the way home"
"airball"
"Triple-double"
“Divac get off your wallet”
“He did the bunny hop in the pea patch”
“He got caught with his hand in the cookie jar”
“The mustard's off the hot dog”
"He threw up a frozen rope"
"He's in the Popcorn Machine (with butter and salt all over him) "
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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One of the funniest pranks in sportscasting was watching Chick Hearns interviewing a player at courtside when suddendly somebody walks between Chick and the camera pissing Chicky -Baby off and sending him into a verbal tirade against the rude trespasser...Then the camera focuses in on the culprit , Hot Rod Hundley , Chicks old side-kick , grinning back at a still incensed Chick Hearns...
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The Larry
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Moab, UT
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The Celtics and the Thunder aren't done yet. Rondo is on fire.
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zBrown
Ice climber
mercenario de merced
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KG didn't look too bad either. I'd rather see the Celtics play the Spurs. Battle of the "mature" titans.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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The Thunder's frontmen are looking good. KD is in the groove. GO THUNDER!!!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Home cooking seems to be the order of the day, hopefully the Heat will reverse that trend tonight.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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The Celtics are looking good. Spolstra's scrambling to figure it out. Rondo is playing at an MVP level. Lebron can't do it on his own and Wade is stinking up the court and flopping all over the place.
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zBrown
Ice climber
mercenario de merced
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Did the same ref call all those offensive fouls? They don't seem to report that stat in the box score.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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I predict both series will be knotted at 2-2! After that it's hard to tell....
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Have you notice that all 8 victories have been for the home team.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Yep. Hard to steal a game away from any of these home teams. The Thunder better change that streak tonight. They need to contain the head of the dragon to do it.
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zBrown
Ice climber
mercenario de merced
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Suppose the trend continues? Move the seventh games to a neutral site, like Switzerland.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Oh snap! It's getting hot in here!
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Home cooking seems to be the order of the day,
Looks like The Thunder ordered out tonight.
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zBrown
Ice climber
mercenario de merced
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I hate to say it, but Tim looked tired tonight. Damn. Manu is the man, but the boys are back in town it seems.
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granstar
Social climber
Irving, TX
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I agree zBrown. I admire the Spurs for what they have accomplished although never been my favorite team. My older brother likes them mostly because Popovich is Air Academy grad like he is, and he also liked David Robinson when he was still around. Originally being from Indiana I like the Pacers. They remind me of the Thunder with their youth and athleticism, but just couldn't get it done against the Heat. I live here in the Dallas area now so I follow Mavericks also, but not a real good effort from them this season.
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The Larry
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Moab, UT
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The Celtic served up some clam chowder tonight in Miami. Wade really needs to stop flopping. Lebron's one man show ain't gonna work.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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It is pretty wild in OKC during the NBA season. In the playoffs it is nuts.
I got my teeth cleaned the other day, and was stuck there with my mouth filled with little tools. The whole time the lady was going off on every play and player for the last eight games.
The Thunder GM came out of San Antonio, and has a really good method of building a team from the inside. They do a lot of metrics, like in the movie "Moneyball." They also do wicked psych tests on any player who joins the team.
No offense, but Kobe Bryant wouldn't be allowed to play for the Thunder, and probably the Spurs. They are all humble gym rats who say that they are trying to get better every day. San Antonio is the same.
Take the Knicks. They spend a ton of money on a couple of big names and get nothing. It is all me, me, me. Ask any Thunder player and they will, and have said, that not everybody can play here.
They also like it here. People are nice and don't mob them at a restaurant.
The whole place is crazy over them, though. The arena is so loud that you can't hear yourself scream. Even when they are losing it is that loud.
I thought we had no chance against San Antonio. They are so solid and team oriented. Now we have a chance. Then worry about the Heat. I saw the Thunder blow the Celtics out of the building this year. It was pitiful.
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fsck
climber
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GOOD JOB! GOOD EFFORT! GOOD JOB! GOOD EFFORT! GOOD JOB! GOOD EFFORT!
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Go thunder even thogh my homie mike miller plays for the heat
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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GOOD JOB! GOOD EFFORT! GOOD JOB! GOOD EFFORT! GOOD JOB! GOOD EFFORT!
That was pretty funny. You know some of the Heat players wanted to slap that kid.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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It was fun to watch the old men of Boston finish that game 5 squeeker!!
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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the Heat were out-classed on their home court. Low bar, I suppose, but I still enjoyed seeing it
the NBA Championship will be decided between OKC and San Antone.
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zBrown
Ice climber
mercenario de merced
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Barkeley in 7. Seems to be the only commentator with a sense of humor.
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the kid
Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 7, 2012 - 08:04am PT
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OKC got it done last night. down for 3 quarters, they showed their youth and energy by not caving in and winning this clutch game. they have earned their spot in the big game.
Will it be Celtics or HEat tonight?
OKC-Celtics.
OKC wins in 6..
kurt
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Let's go C's!!!! Step it up!
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cowpoke
climber
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I'm with you, Brandon...but this is LeBron's night...crazy good tonight...just crazy good.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Yeah, James is on fire tonight.
There's always game 7.
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zBrown
Ice climber
mercenario de merced
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I prefer to see the Celtics play the Thunder, but ... I don't think they can win the series. They still have to beat Miami at home too.
Who is Spike Lee rooting for? Where the hell is Jerry West these days?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Both Boston and Miami suck - OKC will destroy them.
I am now of the heartfelt opinion that NBA refereeing is more suspect than Italian football.
How do those guys sleep at night? It is like they make up a new set of rules every game.
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Rankin
Social climber
Greensboro, North Carolina
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Lebron James: 45pts, 15 rebs, 5 asst. If he keeps playing angry, look out. He's so good that the Heat could win it all. Lebron guarding Durant would be the mega-classic Finals. Can't wait for Saturday's game.
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Reeotch
Trad climber
4 Corners Area
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The Celtics are finished. Don't think they have a chance to beat the heat at home with the series on the line.
They just werent smelling the blood in the water tonight . . . they blew it!
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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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Thunder and Heat in the finals and the Heat in 6
I'm sticking with my story.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Reilly....I agree with your referee opinions....watch the replays and most of the calls don't make any sense...Seems like the mega-stars get lots of slack...? RJ
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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RJ, did you see the play where the guy with the ball was at the 3-point line
and just lowered his head and charged into the defender who only stood his
ground and got called for the foul? First, the ball handler was one of the
the 'stars' (I forget who) and the defender was not. Second, the ball handler
was the home team. Absolutely disgusting.
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fsck
climber
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lebron's game 6 shot chart...
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the kid
Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 10, 2012 - 08:26pm PT
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Thunder/HEat will be an epic finals..
Thunder in 6...
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jun 10, 2012 - 08:27pm PT
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The Big Loser in this series:
Seattle.
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zBrown
Ice climber
mercenario de merced
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Jun 10, 2012 - 09:03pm PT
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Hey - there's no game tonight. WTF?
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426
climber
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Jun 11, 2012 - 08:59am PT
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Ah, the celtics; RIP. Twilight of a Champion. Feels like my climbing ; just a step slower--smarter, perhaps, but reaching back to youth, failing. Able to keep up for "3 quarter" but blown out in the last minutes...
Should be an interesting Finals; who's got OKC in 5?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jun 11, 2012 - 09:52am PT
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Reilly...The replay on the various charging fouls showed how inconsistent the calls were..I feel the calls were the deciding factor of which team won in several of the games...Bosch is back and should give Miami a lift...
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Edge
Trad climber
New Durham, NH
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Jun 11, 2012 - 10:49am PT
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Thunder in 5.
Celtics off-season should be epic.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 11, 2012 - 11:10am PT
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Thunder in 7.
I like a good series!
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fsck
climber
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Jun 11, 2012 - 11:17am PT
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thunder in 7.
KD and lebron ... this is gonna be a great series.
The Big Loser in this series:
Seattle.
seattle residents still have two pro teams to not give a sh#t about.
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the kid
Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 11, 2012 - 05:41pm PT
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tomorrow is GAME 1 in OKC. Gonna be a ball buster for sure.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Jun 11, 2012 - 07:45pm PT
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doesn't seattle also have a third professional team that unlike its NFL and MLB brothers is actually successful and whose matches are well-attended?
a team called the Sounders, perhaps?
that said, I'm looking forward to OKC outclassing the Heat. Too many showhorses on the latter.
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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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Jun 11, 2012 - 07:46pm PT
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I'm sticking with my story from two weeks back. Heat in 6.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jun 12, 2012 - 04:42pm PT
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OKC takes game 1.
"if I'd a bet on old Stewball, I'd be a rich man today".
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nature
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CO
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Jun 14, 2012 - 11:50pm PT
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Heat just let them know who's boss!
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bit'er ol' guy
climber
the past
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Jun 15, 2012 - 12:13am PT
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Bandwagon crash.
5 game series
first 3 in Miami
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Jun 15, 2012 - 12:17am PT
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Thunder were robbed. If that foul was correctly called they probably would have won.
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nature
climber
CO
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Jun 15, 2012 - 02:45am PT
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No call was the best call.
I don't see the foul.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Jun 15, 2012 - 02:04pm PT
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It's james' arm to durrant's chest pushing him backwards that I thought was a foul. But then westbrook gets an offensive foul for what looked to me like just chasing the ball.
But it's basketball and fouls can go either way and are often miscalled/subjective. That's why I like football with instant replay, it slows things down but things are usually called right. But the end of the game showed that even down by what 17 points the Thunder came back and had a good chance of winning. Should be a good rest of the series.
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Jun 15, 2012 - 02:11pm PT
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That kind of contact coming from someone that is 6'8" and a sandbag 250lbs is not so "minimal".
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jun 15, 2012 - 05:04pm PT
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Slow the video down to 25% speed. James reaches across Durant's chest, doesn't body him at all. It's not that apparent on TV, but from talking to pro ball players (Hazzard, Wickes, Johnson, Vandeweghe) you rarely get a shot near the basket without being hit, shoved or poked in some fashion.
Durant was shooting a fadeaway jumper. He won the 12/29/2011 game with a very similar 3-point fader.
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bit'er ol' guy
climber
the past
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Jun 16, 2012 - 12:26am PT
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On every play, of every game, some one is getting fouled
when, and on who the whistle is blown can be very subjective (biased)
the team (almost always the home team) that shoots the most free throws
almost always wins.
the last seconds of game 2 in the finals is not a good time to call a foul on the MVP!
That's the NBA
Sorry.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
bouldering
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Jun 16, 2012 - 12:36am PT
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Both teams are too placid imo. There should be more fouls/ fights if this is the finals.
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nature
climber
CO
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Jun 16, 2012 - 12:43am PT
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ol guy is right.
in that situation no way do the zebra's make the call against the MVP up against the shooting champ. It's gotta be blatant and it simply isn't.
Ever see 'em call it on Jordan in that situation?
It's special treatment - it comes around and it goes around.
Durant's comments, "I missed the shot".
The Heat wire-to-wire tomorrow night as well.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jun 16, 2012 - 12:47am PT
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Thunder were robbed. If that foul was correctly called they probably would have won.
Reminds me of a certain Bulls/Jazz finals game I'm still bitter about.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jun 16, 2012 - 11:32am PT
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Championship rings - at least six:
Russell - 11
Sam Jones - 10
7 unnamed Celtics
Horry - 7
Kareem - 6
Jordan - 6
Pippen - 6
Can anyhbody name the other 7?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jun 16, 2012 - 01:50pm PT
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The heat is on!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jun 16, 2012 - 02:00pm PT
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A couple more made shots down the final seconds and the thunder would be up 2-0...Maybe the heat are adjusting to the thunder...Durant is one bad-ass mother...
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Jun 16, 2012 - 02:07pm PT
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He who controls the "boards", both offensive and defensive, usually gets the win. All the rest is just grandstanding to get lucrative sponsorships.(not that there's anything wrong with that)
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jun 16, 2012 - 03:01pm PT
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Durant is very, very good but he is no Lebron....nobody is, now or ever.
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Gene
climber
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Jun 16, 2012 - 04:10pm PT
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Durant is very, very good but he is no Lebron....nobody is, now or ever. .... which is why OKC will win.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jun 16, 2012 - 07:07pm PT
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Dont ask LeBron for change from a dollar
He'll only give you three quarters.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jun 16, 2012 - 08:38pm PT
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Of all the heroes in legend and song
There’s none so brave as El Kabong.
He appears when most needed,
He rights the wrongs,
Then he’s gone like a flash.
That’s El Kabong!
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jun 17, 2012 - 10:55pm PT
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Durant's 4th foul was the same circumstance as the James no-call last game.
Boo.
Durant did not have a good game. I don't count Miami mistakes cuz I'm for OKC, but OKC made way too many.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jun 18, 2012 - 01:28am PT
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I'm pulling for Miami but a couple of those fouls on Durant were pretty lousy calls....I think Durant is better than LEBRON...Durant can drill the 3 pointers with conistancy and is quicker to the hoop than Lebron....
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Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jun 18, 2012 - 01:42am PT
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Dont ask LeBron for change from a dollar
He'll only give you three quarters.
Waaay funny!
"He'll steal your face right off your head."
Go Thunder!
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bit'er ol' guy
climber
the past
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Jun 18, 2012 - 02:08am PT
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Bandwagon crash
OKC = 25 something free throws
Miami = 35 something free throws
Miami wins
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
bouldering
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Jun 18, 2012 - 03:19am PT
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It's simple aggression by Miami. OKC is deer-in-the-highbeams cuz of thier youth, and inexperience.
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nature
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CO
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Jun 18, 2012 - 10:11am PT
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Heat in 5
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jun 18, 2012 - 11:39am PT
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^that's good
Funny how your preferences skew your perception. Miami had more turnovers that OKC (12 vs 11), though I thought I heard Magic say OKC had nine in the 4th QTR.
Gimme me the ball first, lock Durant out of the key, winners' outs to 11. No question who'd win.
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le_bruce
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Oakland, CA
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Jun 18, 2012 - 12:50pm PT
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That is a good one, Jaybro, but that breed of humor dies a well-deserved death after this series. LBJ has paid his dues for the hubris of his youth, and he's currently in the process of proving that he's the undisputed heir to the throne that Kobe has lost.
LeBron has had a steady hand at the helm of his ship throughout this playoffs. Wade has been the inconsistent play- and decision-maker this time around, and LeBron has more than made up for it.
And he's been just as influential on the defensive end, maybe more so. How many times did KD - an offensive beast - throw up shots off-balance and out of rhythm last night, especially in the second half, thanks to LBJ's airtight D?
And whoever said Durant is quicker on the drive is dreaming.
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nature
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CO
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Jun 18, 2012 - 01:32pm PT
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It also looks like bosh is getting back into the rhythm. I think it was 3rd quarter lebron was getting ready for a drive and bosh moved out to set a screen. Just as Bosh had his feet established james made the move to the hoop. perfectly timed.
this series is over in 5. the thunder are overmatched emotionally.
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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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Jun 18, 2012 - 02:58pm PT
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James is playing incredible defense. It is making a big difference that he is concentrating on Durant the last two games.
Like him or not, he is a pretty incredible force on offense too.
The close, switching D on Westbrook has also made a big difference. Keeping a lid on him is no easy thing. The Heat did it well last night.
But, don't bury OKC yet. They will win another at least.
Sticking with my story from three weeks ago. Heat over OKC in 6
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jun 18, 2012 - 03:05pm PT
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And whoever said Durant is quicker on the drive is dreaming.
Quicker than Westbrook?
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jun 19, 2012 - 10:12pm PT
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This is a good one tonight.
As they were cutting away to commerical, a picture of Oscar Robinson flashed ... you remember ... the guy who averaged a triple double for 5 straight seasons (1960-1965).
That's averages of 30.2 points, 10.6 assists, & 10.3 rebounds. What picture did they show? The Big O, playing defense, yeah that too.
On a sadder note, why do Miama fans insist on chanting "let's go heat", rather than the much hotter/cooler "heat it up".
I'm looking for 7 games, beginning not too be very concerned about who wins it.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 19, 2012 - 11:15pm PT
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What has happenned to the NBA??????
My god.. this is rediculous.. no freaking defense in a FINALS???
stupid scoring.. just shoot.. no passing no pick and rolls.. NO DEFENSE
these guys would not know what hit them if a they had to play a good team from BITD
.................
in the last minute I see some real BB being played
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nature
climber
CO
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Jun 20, 2012 - 12:19am PT
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Heat in 5
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jun 21, 2012 - 07:57pm PT
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Just back from a climbing trip and found this thread buried, must have been populated by Thunder fans....sigh.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jun 21, 2012 - 08:38pm PT
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Well the odds are not good. Still pulling for the Thunder, but I read today that a 3-1 deficit team in the finals has not even gone to game six. Yikes, could be the end of the season that was not supposed to be.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Jun 21, 2012 - 08:52pm PT
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an eventual Thunder championship (which I think is improbable, but far from impossible -- subjectively assess 36.029% chance of happening) would be hard for LeBron to rebound from, would forever tarnish his legacy as a premiere baller.
Champions close, dig?
Go Thunder!
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bit'er ol' guy
climber
the past
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Jun 21, 2012 - 11:00pm PT
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87.7% of stats are made up on the spot.
I remember when KG and the T-wolfs would eventually win a championship.
same goes for C-webb and the kings
how many "hot young teams" never won it all?
next year may bring another bandwagon team
these guys may get tired of livin' in OKC
really...your a 23 year old millionaire and you want to live there!!
harden or westbrook will end up in L.A. or NY or Miami before OKC wins a championship
you don't think they're thinking about it.....chillin' pool side or at the beach this week?
in the end, OKC is still lookin up at the Spurs, Lakers, Dallas and of course the Heat
they just had a good run, welcome to the NBA OKC noobs and bandwagoneers.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jun 21, 2012 - 11:08pm PT
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More blunders than thunder.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jun 21, 2012 - 11:13pm PT
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Oh man, this is as bad as Walking Tall. I walked out on Joe Don, getting ready to abandon ship here.
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nature
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CO
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Jun 22, 2012 - 12:18am PT
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sorry to repeat myself.... again...
heat in 5.
the thunder will be a good team for many years. but they are young.
And Lebron, Bosh, and Wade just told all the doubters to STFU.
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Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jun 22, 2012 - 01:32am PT
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21 points in threes by M. Miller . . . that didn't help matters. Where has this guy been hiding?
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426
climber
☬
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Jun 22, 2012 - 09:59am PT
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Look for OKC to dominate Game 4
Still lookin.
Brooks got outcoached by Spoelstra, Miami made better adjustments every game (after 1), Brawn showed up this year for the last series, role players huge last night. Wasn't even so much youth vs experience as execution, too many mistakes by OKC to not get swept 4 in a row.
Congrats to the heatles...certainly not this fan fave, but due I "Spo"se.
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Rankin
Social climber
Greensboro, North Carolina
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Jun 22, 2012 - 10:03am PT
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Lebron finally seems to have figured out that when he goes to the paint his team is almost unbeatable. Heat will probably repeat next year.
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S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
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GO SPURS! can they take it all?!?
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Watching the Indiana/Heat game tonight.
Excellent all around game by Indiana.. Good passing, plays and proper paintwork.
Very solid Defense. Nice to see good basketball whooping on mediocre play by the Heat tonight.
Lebron is no Jordan. He did have a good game but just not the killer competitor that Jordan was. Jordan would have had some serious words for his teammates if they played like the Heat did tonight. Bulls didn't always win either but they always played well even in losses. Except for a few minutes here and there the Heat played crap ball in about every way tonight.
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S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
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game 7 !!!!
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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May 28, 2012 Couchmaster said: "I see a Miami- Spurs final"
Blammm, coming up.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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NBA reffing makes Italian soccer refs look fair and equitable.
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cowpoke
climber
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Do spurs stand a chance?
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Depends if the Heat have enough talent to overcome their fundamental gameplay weaknesses. Or the will to dig deep and play real basketball.
Tough call. I'd say the Heat probably win in 6. The fact is they do know how to play correctly. Even if they usually are to lazy to do so.
I'm rooting for the Spurs just because I hate lazy overpaid incredibly talented teams.
OK that might apply to the spurs also.. damn I hate what has become of the NBA.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Good point climbski - the Pacers showed it could be done but they were too
inconsistent. Consistency is generally not lacking with the Spurs and they
are a really smart and well-coached team. I don't know if they have enough
muscle inside to keep Lebron and Wade out of the paint but if Splitter can
up his D then I think they can beat 'em. Parker and Ginobili should carve 'em up.
It will be a good series if the effing refs let 'em play. |-/
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Heat don't have a good matchup for Duncan inside. But the Spurs, Duncan and the NBA rules have been going away from the inside game. Also counting on Duncan to carry the spurs has not generally worked well for whatever reason. Duncan just rarely seems to step up with killer desire to win at all cost. Parker does however.. should be a good series.
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cowpoke
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Climbski, I totally agree regarding the state of nba and rooting for spurs because they are lesser of two evils (or annoying realities if not evil) = go spurs, I guess.
Do really like ray Allen and tony Parker (and Reilly is dead on regarding SA coaching)
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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SA is playing some of the most brilliant smart and well executed Ball i have seen in years. Rope-a-dope steady paceing and matching to 5 minutes then pure execution of near perfect defense and offense.
Parker looking and acting like MJ.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Miami set the tempo of the game...until the 4 th quarter. Tony Parker MVP of Game 1. His last shot was what championships are made of. Oh yeah.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Great game tonight...I just hope nobody gets cut by the Birdman's mohawk...That thing is an OSHA violation if i ever saw one...RJ
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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HaHaHaHa! But he ain't no Plake, is he? And what's he gonna do now that he's about out of tat estate?
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J. Werlin
Social climber
Cedaredge, CO
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Reilly: " I don't know if they have enough
muscle inside to keep Lebron and Wade out of the paint"
The Spurs bigs/team defense did okay (like a 4-0 sweep) against a couple other bigs recently.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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JW, I stand happily chastized. Leonard played LeBron pretty damn well and
Timmy is just too damn crafty. Splitter made some good defensive plays too.
And why isn't that guy a climber?
Spurs in 6!
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J. Werlin
Social climber
Cedaredge, CO
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Cheers Reilly. Watching the game last night, the few times LBJ got into the paint he had at least 3 Spurs hanging on him. Evidently, Pop is willing to risk the outside shooters over James getting going inside.
Kenny Smith post game (raising his eyebrows): "The Spurs are Indiana, but with Tony Parker--I'm just saying. . .If I say anything else they'll call me a Heat-hater."
Likely, the Spurs won't miss as many open three's in coming games as they did in G1.
Wade was a shadow of himself for all but game 7 of the Pacer series. Last night was his best playoff game of 2013. Will that knee catch up to him in G2?
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le_bruce
climber
Oakland, CA
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What a fantastic game.
Spoelstra made a tough call in the 3rd to rest James and Wade at the same time, just as the Heat were building a small lead. During that rest, the Heat went from being up by 7 and building a rhythm to being tied and playing scrappy ball, and it felt like momentum was shifting for the 4th quarter.
A volley of sloppy TO's and deflected passes in the 4th and the Heat were making mistakes that you can't make against a team like San Antonio.
Parker has received all of the press but Duncan is the player that kept SA in the mix every time that the Heat started to make a run.
Pop outcoached Spoelstra, which is likely to happen each game. Sitting Haslem and playing a small lineup made for an incredible game to watch, and the Heat outrebounded the Spurs, but something is going to have to change for the Heat in game 2.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Defense was the key to this game. Heat didn't play D very well and they were lucky the spurs came out shooting rusty and missing a lot of wide open shots. The heat NEVER controlled this game. They held a slight lead a long time due to Spurs rusty shooting especially Ginobli. If they hadn't been missing everyone would be talking about how the Spurs DOMINATED the whole game. Which in fact they did.
Timmy played excellent defense and got his shots when they mattered most. The crazy shot by Parker simply sealed an already won game.
However I do not expect to see it go so easily for the Spurs next game. it's hard to keep that much talent down.
I wonder though.. If the Spurs play as well as they did AND get their shooting back.. How much more can Miami do?
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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HMG! It was weird and awesome cheering on that little French dude. Fuzz was pissed.
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weezy
climber
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Fuzz was pissed.
ho man...was she sporting her lucky Cav's jersey?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Bosch could get down court faster if he kept his mouth closed...Dude looks like a large mouth bass gumming for cheese bait...If he keeps taking 3's the spurs have a chance of winning...RJ
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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ho man...was she sporting her lucky Cav's jersey?
She was. She is in denial. Her team is going down.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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To my eye the Spurs are playing sloppy and yet they still are in the game and might win. The Spurs's Green made one of the most effortless 3 pointers I've ever seen. I mean this thing was from downtown and he put about as much effort in it as I do making a 3 footer.
Prediction: Miami wins game 2
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 10, 2013 - 12:34am PT
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So who won tonight???
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Jun 10, 2013 - 12:55am PT
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Miami 103. San Antonio 84
It was a blow -out, obviously.
Going to be an interesting series.
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weezy
climber
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Jun 10, 2013 - 03:20am PT
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poor Splitter...getting stuffed so hard by LBJ like that. you know he cried some tears in the post-game shower..
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 11, 2013 - 08:54pm PT
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Missed the last game. Hope to see Spurs step up tonight.
Guess we will find out soon.
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Hmm Duncan told the coach gimme the ball tonight. He looks like the player I always wanted him to be. Going hard inside. Interesting start to chessmatch.
Miami playing poorly as usual and depending on talent. Which at the moment is not working well lol.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 11, 2013 - 10:13pm PT
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Solid first half by Spurs. In the drivers seat as they say. But there is a problem. Anytime the Spurs let off a little Miami makes em pay dearly. Spurs will need 22 of the next 24 minute played very well. Miami just has so much 1v1 talent.
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I have NEVER seen Duncan this determined. He looks like John Elway running the ball for first down in the Superbowl.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 11, 2013 - 11:12pm PT
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29 point lead gawd it's beautiful. If somehow Miami comes back and wins this championship I will still never forget the complete QUIT they showed tonight.
Well actually Lebron hasn't quit .. I'll give him credit he is doing a good Quixote impersonation while his team has folded around him.
31 point lead 5:43 to go....and now Spurs send in the scrubs. Unfreekingbeleivable
35 point lead 2:41 minutes
37 at :40
113 77 Spurs. Folks are gunna talk about the 3s. There is a reason The Spurs broke the 3 point finals record.. it did not happen by chance... fact is Duncan set it all up on both sides of the court for 3 quarters. That and solid real basketball by the whole team...inside outside passing and picks leading to open shots due to lazy heat defense. and of course solid solid DEFENSE by Duncan and Spurs that pummeled and made the heat fold like the over talented lazy team they are.
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S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
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Jun 11, 2013 - 11:47pm PT
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wow the spurs put on a clinic of 3 point shooting.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Jun 12, 2013 - 01:17am PT
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA
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Jun 12, 2013 - 01:21am PT
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Most 3 pointers in an NBA final. Go Spurs.
Really rooting for Kawhi Leonard. His dad - who mentored his basketball life - was murdered at his Compton car wash when Kawhi was in high school and he overcame that tragedy and has faced forward since (he's only 21). The guy has an incredible work ethic.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
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Jun 12, 2013 - 04:24am PT
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the spurs put on a clinic of 3 point shooting You live by the 3 you die by the 3. Heat would love to lull them into that.
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weezy
climber
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Jun 12, 2013 - 04:36am PT
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holy sh#t larry that photo will get you 86'd from woody's.
how about that awkward ass dunk by BIRDMAN BIRDMAN that LBJ dished up for him? i was trying to think of a white dude in the history of nba who had some steezy dunks but i couldn't think of any. most whitey dunks are all stiff looking and jittery...or something.
it'd be cool to see tracy mcgrady get a ring.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 12, 2013 - 10:20am PT
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You live by the 3 you die by the 3. Heat would love to lull them into that.
They don't live by the 3, they just happened to hit a buttload of them.
I don't think the Spurs will be getting "lulled" much. They look pretty determined. The Heat were the ones in lullaby land last night.
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stilltrying
Trad climber
washington indiana
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Jun 12, 2013 - 10:36am PT
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I went to game 3 of the Pacers/Heat (not a good one for the Pacers)and there was a guy hawking t-shirts with L.B. Bosch and Wade on the front with Bitches underneath. He was yelling "Get you bitches here" Cracked me up - no mercy. The Spurs were incredible last night. I thought they would win this series as our Pacers gave them all they wanted and the Spurs are a much better and complete team than the Pacers.
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J. Werlin
Social climber
Cedaredge, CO
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Jun 12, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
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Not good if Tony is down.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Jun 13, 2013 - 10:16pm PT
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Unlike the last two games , game 4 has a lot more momentum shifts. Momentum shifts make for much better games than blow-outs. 2nd half is going to be good.
Everybody is playing good, except the refs.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 13, 2013 - 10:17pm PT
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Much different game toningt. Spurs erratic some good ball then poor and Miami playing better team ball early. Later Miami is falling back on bad habits of individual play.
The biggest difference other than the expected miami stepping up tonight is Duncan. He is being his old wilty cautious self again. Not the determined inside presence that collapsed Miami last game. Not sure why the spurs have changed their gameplan tonight. Perhaps Duncan is grumpy with all the attention the 3 pointers got due to his inside presence last game.
Weird.
Still game tied at 49 all at halftime.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
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Jun 13, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
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NBA needs a new format. They should place all the teams and the two college teams from the final four champs game into a "lose one and done" tournament and give half the proceeds to charity and the other half to me.
Shack O'WindanSea
Go Jerry West young man
This guy should win another Oscar
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 13, 2013 - 10:39pm PT
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Wow, the refs clearly were orderedby the League that this thing has to go seven. The Heat are getting every call.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 13, 2013 - 10:42pm PT
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yeah it is weird but the Spurs have come out in the 2nd playing Duncan ball. Totally different game now.
If they keep it up Spurs will win.
Play solid D and make Duncan engage on about 2 out of three offensive possesions. Miami will get frustrated and crumble opening everything up for the rest of the Spurs.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Jun 13, 2013 - 10:47pm PT
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Really rough game. There are elbows and knees flying everywhere .
This is my kind of basketball.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 13, 2013 - 10:48pm PT
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Gaaaads as soon i say it Duncan goes back into his shell and Miami begins to take a solid lead...
Watch closely anytime Duncan attacks offensively good things happen for the spurs.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Jun 13, 2013 - 10:56pm PT
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If the Spurs can kick out their 3 point game about now they will win . If not, the Heat are going to take game 4.
Heat are playing good defense and are setting the tempo, their full court transition game is on and their shooting percentage is up.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 13, 2013 - 11:02pm PT
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DOnt forget the BS refereeing going on the last 5 possesions. FOr that matter most of the 2nd half.
Spurs on the ground half the time they shoot. No calls. On the other side if there is a Spur near the shot or the ball on D then it's called.
Amazing the Spurs are holding on with Duncan sitting and corrupt officiating.
If this continues I really am done with the NBA.
I watched officiating like this cost Sacramento a championship years ago.. I stopped watching for years after that. WHy am I sucked back in again just to see the same crap.?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 13, 2013 - 11:03pm PT
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See what I mean? Wade jumps into Green's body on the drive and Green gets called? What's he supposed to do, step aside? What bull.
Ginobili is really stinking the joint up, why is Pop leaving him in?
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Jun 13, 2013 - 11:17pm PT
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The Heat are playing really good defense folks. Wade has finally stepped up .
The story behind game 4: Dwayne Wade.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 13, 2013 - 11:19pm PT
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Clean game happening in the 4th.
Miami stepping up bigtime on D.
Spurs in big trouble.
game over 5 MINUTES LEFT.
Miami wins with solid 4th. Scary good when they play well.
That officiating in the 3rd was like a signal that they were waiting for.
Strange game
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Jun 13, 2013 - 11:35pm PT
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The Spurs have to make some substantial adjustments when their key players get double- teamed. The Miami D took their inside game completely away. The Spurs secondary role players need to step up , on offense and defense.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 13, 2013 - 11:39pm PT
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^^ well said. Especially true in 4th. And that situation showed at various times the other 3 quarters too.
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Nibs
Trad climber
Humboldt, CA
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Jun 13, 2013 - 11:47pm PT
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"BS refereeing going on"
that is what setup this loss and the SA turnovers; Manu has to find his game too.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Jun 13, 2013 - 11:48pm PT
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The Heat just settled down and played the way they are capable. The Spurs were erratic and sloppy and didn't make the necessary adjustments , especially in the second half.
Both Duncan and Parker looked tired in the second half.
The first 3 quarters were rough and the officiating was erratic.
Otherwise it was a good game. Too bad the Spurs didn't stay sharp like they are capable.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
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Jun 14, 2013 - 12:01am PT
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Like I said. Th NBA needs a new format. Ask the NSA, they know how to do it right.
Senior and Junior:
NBA rookie O'D'Year (1970)
Think about it
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Nibs
Trad climber
Humboldt, CA
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Jun 14, 2013 - 12:02am PT
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true, but climbski2's observation about corrupt officiating holds. when you are playing your heart out poor officiating takes you out of your game; very difficult to not be affected.
my SO loves the NBA (GS Warrior fan)-she has to leave the room when the calls are egregiously one sided. She left the room..."games over, tv's off, you can come back in now."
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Jun 16, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
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Game 5
Real simple folks . So far 5: 45 left in 3 rd quarter.
Spurs offense is kicking ass . This could change.
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Ward Trotter
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Jun 16, 2013 - 10:11pm PT
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At the end of 3 rd quarter : the story behind game 5....Manu Ginobli
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 16, 2013 - 10:36pm PT
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It looks like they may hold on!
Go Manu.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 16, 2013 - 10:45pm PT
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HERE COMES THE HEAT!
2:23 left
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 16, 2013 - 10:48pm PT
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Missed this one. Went climbing.
Looks like it must have been good.
Well 1 min left but seems it's over.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 16, 2013 - 10:51pm PT
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Looks like they're sizzling out of Heat. Too little too late.
G'night fellas!
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 16, 2013 - 10:51pm PT
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THERE GOES THHE HEAT!
1:06 left down by 13
The story of game 5 is Dwayne Wade is a has been
Next year Lebron is moving to Cali.
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Jun 17, 2013 - 07:57am PT
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climbski2 nails it with the corrupt officiating...
Game 5 Spurs get every call as soon as game is close and interesting...the best player in the world has gone to the line 10-15 times this series...while getting hacked the entire game 5 he should have been to the line 10 times in game 5 alone...
Just like the Lakers vs. Sacramento about 8 years ago the league controls a teams destiny when it wants to...
I guess we get to see a 7 game series, maybe they let the players decide game 7??
I just want to see a fairly officiated game regardless of who wins/loses.
Just one more reason to love climbing...no one dictates what you can do other than you...most of the time at least
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 17, 2013 - 12:10pm PT
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Blaming the Heat's performance on the officials is the height of weaksauce in my opinion. Officials make mistakes, just like we all do. I've been playing and watching high level ball all my life, and there are very few games that can be blamed on officials alone. I'd like to see anyone here do better. Not gonna happen.
The Heat didn't play defense like they did in game 4. Ginobli stepped up, and the Heat continue to leave Danny Green open for the record setting 3 point series he has had. How is that the officials fault?
NBA FINALS, By Roland Beech
Let's face it, with basketball you are always going to have a certain amount of controversy regarding the officiating since there are so many plays which are far from clear-cut. This isn't tennis, with a simple in/out decision.
Bennett
No, basketball features ten players moving simulataneously with all kinds of incidental contact along the way, a variety of obscure and seldom enforced rules, and it's all played out from end to end at blazing fast speed.
It's a tough game to call on many occasions, and reasonable individuals can agree to disagree on the appropriate ruling on a play, even after seeing it in slow motion replay multiple times! It's clear then that referees should be extended a margin of error and can't be held accountable for the occasional missed call, just as we can't fault a player for missing a shot every now and then.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 17, 2013 - 12:18pm PT
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By Gregg Doyle
And the tone they set Sunday was one of inconsistent effort, flashes of individual brilliance undermined by petulant indifference, selfishness and ego. Examples? I have examples.
There was the play early in the second quarter when LeBron drove the lane and tried a shot in traffic and missed it. He thought he was fouled, and he complained, and then he kept complaining. He was hopping and spinning and the ball was going the other way, ending in a transition bucket for the Spurs. San Antonio led by 12, then 14, then 17. LeBron wanted that foul called. He wanted those free throws.
There was the play early in the fourth quarter when Wade attacked the rim and missed a layup. Wade has been on his best behavior for the NBA Finals, not flopping or playing dirty or doing any of the unbecoming stuff he has been known to do, but this was the old D-Wade. He missed the shot and came to a dead stop when he realized the official wasn't blowing his whistle. The Spurs were going the other way, but it was more important to Wade -- in the fourth quarter of Game 5 of the NBA Finals -- to demonstrate his disappointment with the quality of NBA officiating.
A few seconds later Kawhi Leonard had the ball in the corner. Wade was supposed to be defending him, but he was the last player down the court. He was too late. Leonard hit a 3-pointer to make it 92-75.
The Heat didn't fold. Give them -- well, give Ray Allen -- credit for that. Allen scored in bunches, clumps of two, three, even four points at a time, and his explosion -- he scored 15 points in the fourth quarter -- put the Heat within striking range. It was 109-101 with 1:37 left, not a good place to be but not a hopeless place to be, either, when Tony Parker beat Wade to the rim for a bucket. It was 111-101.
And then came the moment that should define LeBron James' leadership.
James drove, missed a shot, and wanted the foul. He didn't get it. He was under the rim, and he stayed under the rim in disbelief while the Spurs went the other way. By the time Danny Green was hitting a 3-pointer, LeBron was still 75 feet away. The Heat called timeout. LeBron was the last to reach the huddle, seeing how he was still on the offensive side of the floor.
The good news is that if the Spurs flounder in game 6 I can just blame it on the refs instead of giving the Heat the credit they deserve......Sheesh.
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Jun 17, 2013 - 03:51pm PT
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Sorry but in my opinion your wrong Survival...Lebron and Wade deserve the calls just as much as those less athletically gifted...the outcome of the game was determined by the officials not calling the obvious fouls which does contribute to taking outside shots (who wants to drive and get hammered and have it not called time after time?) They hit the deck at least 3 times each with no call on an obvious foul driving to the hoop.
In addition when the game started to get close the whistles stopped blowing on the Heat's offensive end of the floor while continueing on the Spurs end leading to another double digit deficit...
With about 3 minutes remaining a touch foul was called on Mike Miller when Ray Allen had just hit a 3 cutting the lead to 8 with 3 minutes to play...this foul while the correct call (if called on both ends)should have not been made as it was a touch foul away from the action a typical let it play routine no call.
I like the Spurs and the Heat both...I like Tim Duncan's class and the fact that the Spurs have always emulated team play and are humble...I like the Heat particularly Dwayne Wade since his days at Marquette and the NCAA tournament... I don't really care who wins but I would rather watch a game that is a nail biter decided by the players than a predetermined outcome leading to more advertising, gate reciept, and concession revenue for the league...
We can agree to disagree on this one...
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 17, 2013 - 04:21pm PT
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decided by the players than a predetermined outcome leading to more advertising, gate reciept, and concession revenue for the league...
You're accusing the league of game fixing. That's where you're wrong.
It's also a completely different accusation than the referees doing an inadequate job. It's also the kind of thing you need proof of.
Yes, we agree to disagree.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 17, 2013 - 05:09pm PT
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You're accusing the league of game fixing.
Uh, I hate to burst yer bubble but NBA stands for Ndrangheta Basketball Association.
They also run the Italian soocer leagues.
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Jun 17, 2013 - 05:46pm PT
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Survival your right proof is needed for accusations of game fixing...I don't have it. :)
I reread your previous post and you make several valid points about both James and Wade waiting for the call as the action continues (their bad on that).
No game has been close except the first one in this series and I prefer to be watching a close game (I rarely watch the games or TV period).
I'm hoping for a close game to decide the series...and I just found a nearby bouldering area to get my fix wich I badly need!!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 17, 2013 - 06:08pm PT
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Thanks mountainlion.
Of course I know that fixing has occurred in all sports, and that the possibility remains.
In the NBA, the conviction of a single official in 2007, was the first since 1950.
I WANT to believe in the game, including the refs, since it's been my favorite team sport my whole life.
I like San An better, but I know the Heat is capable of winning two in a row, especially in Miami.
May the best team win.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 17, 2013 - 06:14pm PT
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Do yous guys really believe the stars and home teams don't get the benefit
of the doubt? I used to believe in Santa Claus, too.
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Jun 17, 2013 - 06:16pm PT
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I think you and I are on the same team Survival...I loved playing basketball and it is my favorite sport to watch with NFL a close second.
I want to believe in the game also and thier is alot to like about the Spurs (like all the languages spoken in thier locker room).
May the best team win. Cheers
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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Jun 17, 2013 - 06:26pm PT
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So what is it called when the Lakers beat the Kings a few years back?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 17, 2013 - 06:31pm PT
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Yes Reilly, some benefit of the doubt, and missed calls is different than full on cheating though.
As it says above, it's not like judging a tennis match. Ten really talented people all going different directions at high speed. Don't tell me that isn't hard to keep up with!
Check out Parker at the 2:20 mark of this highlight reel. How many steps did the guy get? The announcers don't even mention it. In my day, that was traveling. At least that's the way it looks to me....
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 17, 2013 - 06:44pm PT
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That's what I'm talking about - the stars get to walk, charge, palm the ball,
bad mouth the refs while the blue collar guys get called for looking at
somebody with ill intent. There's a serious double standard and I still
say the home teams get more than the benefit of the doubt.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 17, 2013 - 07:12pm PT
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Wellllll, in that particular case, the Heat were the home team, and lost. Thus the 3-2 lead for the Spurs.
The home team has lost twice in this series.
Look, I prefer great teams over great rock stars, but it seems to me that it's hardly the refs fault that the league and game have evolved to this.
Giant hero worship? Not refs fault.
Enormous salaries? Not refs fault.
Humongo media circus? Not refs fault.
I think most of them are great guys, trying to earn a buck and call a good game.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
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Jun 17, 2013 - 07:46pm PT
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Like I said. Th NBA needs a new format. The stars should not receive the star treatment. Unless of course they're from another galaxy.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jun 17, 2013 - 08:08pm PT
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Blown calls......Refs Fault....The NBA should instate no-fault refereeing then the ugliest guy on the bench could get all the blame...How bout Chris " DO DO BIRD " Andersen...He looks like he could absorb lots of blame....Brawwwwk....LeBaron gest to turn the ball over while he rubs it in the defenders face...Goddamn Birdman carries it over and feathers will be ruffled...
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 18, 2013 - 08:35pm PT
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Well here goes another one.
Some thoughts
This series is vaguely familiar, a bit similar to the epic Bulls Jazz Finals BITD.
Except it's a junior varsity version. Good ball by today's NBA low standards. Decent enough I can actually watch again.
We have A playmaking team and a team built on solid excecution of set plays. If we were to oversimplify. However the Spurs simply are not as consistent as the Jazz and ..well Miami.. Lebron ain't Jordan..he plays more like Magic cept he isn't as consistant or as competitive.
plus Miami is usually sproadic to non-existant on D unlike the Bulls who were simply vicious on D even on their off nights for shooting (which occasionally occurred)
Consistancy. It's just severely lacking in the NBA..The great teams of old had it. Although to be fair there really were not as many of those as one would like to think they remember.
Hoping for good play on both sides tonight. Lemme see something great.. that's all I ask.
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S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
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Jun 18, 2013 - 08:37pm PT
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get that fifth ring, Spurs!!!!!
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Jun 18, 2013 - 09:40pm PT
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First quarter both teams playing good D and O. Hopefully the whole game will go like this. Both teams playing well. A clutch -play game all the way so far.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Jun 18, 2013 - 10:14pm PT
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Towards the end of the first half the Heat's shooting percentage fell off. Their offense can sometimes go flat real fast. Spurs D taking the offensive inside game away from Heat.
First half action was Tim Duncan. The big guy cruising in.
If he is healthy look for dWade to step up big time in second half.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jun 18, 2013 - 10:53pm PT
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Looks like the heat are going fishing...Andersen is going to work part time in the Stegasouras display at the Smithsonian....All over for the heat....
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 18, 2013 - 10:55pm PT
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Heat starting to fold under relentless solid pressure from the spurs.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 18, 2013 - 11:07pm PT
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The Heat are such a bunch of whiners. But the NBA double standard was clearly
shown at the end of the third when James drove and jumped into Splitter's
chest and got the call. Splitter's feet were set, he was standing straight
up, and it didn't matter.
Pop is clearly the equal of Phil Jackson.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Jun 18, 2013 - 11:10pm PT
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Don't count out the Heat that easily.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 18, 2013 - 11:26pm PT
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James drives, trips on Ginobili's planted foot and it's Ginobili's fault?
What BS.
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Ward Trotter
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Jun 18, 2013 - 11:26pm PT
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Faced with elimination the Heat are playing with pure heart. Especially LJames.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jun 18, 2013 - 11:26pm PT
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look upthread. same BS two nights ago.
Stern wants a game seven. Always.
$$$
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 18, 2013 - 11:44pm PT
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Spurs win 5th championship
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Jun 18, 2013 - 11:46pm PT
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Sorry about the extta thtead but this is kick ass.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Jun 18, 2013 - 11:48pm PT
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Clutch game all the way.clutch baby clutch
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TwistedCrank
climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
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Jun 18, 2013 - 11:51pm PT
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Who's pitching.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jun 18, 2013 - 11:52pm PT
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O M G
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 18, 2013 - 11:53pm PT
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Wow. Ok I spoke too soon.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jun 18, 2013 - 11:53pm PT
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Advantage Miami (and David Stern)
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 18, 2013 - 11:55pm PT
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I think Pop should put Neal in for Gino.
Edit. pop sat him after hev snoozed on Bosh.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jun 18, 2013 - 11:56pm PT
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wow
I had no idea overtime is only five minutes
i thought they played a new quarter
great game!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 19, 2013 - 12:08am PT
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Wow, James fouled Green and he's whining? Tremendous play by Green.
Ginobili is just out of control.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jun 19, 2013 - 12:13am PT
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And david stern has his wish....
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 19, 2013 - 12:37am PT
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Lesson of the game is.. when Duncan is ON don't sit him. AT ALL
Anyway we did get a good game finally. Weird and non-calls pretty evenly distributed.
Gotta give the advantage to Miami in game 7. Bigtime unfortunately.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Jun 19, 2013 - 12:37am PT
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Good game. Happy to see the Spurs win a game 7 in Miami.
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S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
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Jun 19, 2013 - 12:45am PT
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yes they will!
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 20, 2013 - 07:15pm PT
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Not likely unfortunately.
History favors the Home team in Game 7's. By definition a game seven means you have two evenly matched teams.
Some folks are trying to say the heat cannot beat the Spurs 2 games in a row. Well they don't have to. The spurs gave up the last game when they had it won.
Sadly I have to strongly expect Miami to win tonight.
Would love to be proven wrong.
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Jun 20, 2013 - 07:31pm PT
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The officiating... and the steady turning of basketball into ultimate fighting... it's okay if that's what you like, I guess. Where's Magic and Showtime, please? :)
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Gene
climber
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Jun 20, 2013 - 07:36pm PT
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May the better team win.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 20, 2013 - 09:21pm PT
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Mark my words - Gino goes out with his second foul and Neal comes in. That will work in the Spurs' favor. Pop was just looking for an excuse to yank Gino.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 20, 2013 - 11:06pm PT
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Both teams playing excellent ball. Beautiful game so far. Hope SA doesnt sit Duncan at all the rest of the game. He has to finish through.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Jun 20, 2013 - 11:11pm PT
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Is the picture blurring every minute or two?
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 20, 2013 - 11:28pm PT
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No.
But it is past time to pull Ginobli. He mind is out of it completely. He is playing scared.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 20, 2013 - 11:37pm PT
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He's not scared, just out of control like the last game. Green is stinking the joint up too. Diaw should be in for Green.
How did Duncan miss that layup?
I think Parker's hamstring has bothered him the last few games. He was not himself.
Miami was clearly better.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Jun 20, 2013 - 11:47pm PT
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Heartbreaker for the Spurs.
Heat played good clutch basketball.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 20, 2013 - 11:53pm PT
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Miami earned it. Even got bad calls against them. LeBron was awesome tonight.
Would have preferred that the Spurs Won. Ahh well.
Miami gained some respect from me tonight they do know how to play good ball. Just wish they would do it in all their games and not just the ones that matter.
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Jun 20, 2013 - 11:54pm PT
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Miami/Lebron is the dynasty of the future--as long as they keep bringing in allies for Lebron...
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
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Jun 21, 2013 - 12:11am PT
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^ Pat Riley!
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Jun 21, 2013 - 12:17am PT
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Should have rooted for the heat, as Mike miller went to my high school, but couldn't bring myself to do it. Maybe it was the detention s his dad gave me in middle school as the vice principal.
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