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Trad climber
May 7, 2012 - 10:09am PT
Golf is nearly exclusively mental

Being a climber turned golfer turned back to climber I can say that both sports take a great deal of physical concentration and mental agility.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
May 7, 2012 - 11:02am PT
Well, aside from spoiling a good walk, I like that it is essentially a marksmanship competition.
But the tools are so crude and the wild cards so variable that it is an inefficient determinant of skill.

I'd probably golf like Bill Murray anyway.
Roger Breedlove

Cleveland Heights, Ohio
May 7, 2012 - 11:15am PT
Hi LilaBiene,

Welcome to SuperTopo, the online version of real life, with no spatial or time dimensions and certainly no regard for statistical probabilities.

Also, we have a basic rule: everyone is worthy. (Otherwise there is no accounting for the full breadth of what is posted here.)

We have tried other rules to account for all of the folks who post and read ST, but the only two that seem to fit all the possibilities are "unworthy" or "worthy." To keep it positive, we choose "worthy" for everyone and everything.

Besides, how cool is to have a Dolt pin that was used by Don and Ken on the Nose in 1967, when Bill was still alive. If you don't like it, sell it on eBay--just kidding.

Comparing the pictures you posted, you look like your Mom.

Thanks for posting.

Roger Breedlove


Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 7, 2012 - 11:44am PT
Lila, pardonnez-moi! But I did say you only looked normal. Your trenchant
history of your most admirable investigation clearly belies any resemblance
of normality. That and the fact you've willingly descended into this warren
of anti-normality.

I don't know how many degrees separate me from Kevin Bacon but I am sure our
Grandpa Reillys would not need to go back very far. My esteemed Grandpa Reilly
held sway over our Chicago clan. To his credit he was not above employing his
ethnic connections to achieve a position of great power on the streets of the
Windy City. One of my fondest memories was going to visit him at work and
helping him to raise his drawbridge. Now that was a tangible power!

from out where the anecdotes roam
May 7, 2012 - 11:58am PT
the taco stand has reach it's summit. lilabiene had the grit. drinking it all in ...
Dave Kos

Trad climber
May 7, 2012 - 12:08pm PT
This may be a statistical improbability, but also sounds like a case of "the harder you work, the luckier you get."

Wonderful story, thanks for posting.

May 7, 2012 - 12:48pm PT
You wouldn't happen to be related to the Reilly's of New Harbor, Maine, would you? (My mother's side of the family.)

I work in Boothbay and Wiscasset, tons o' Pemaquid, Bristol, and New Hahbah Reillys around here.


Social climber
Eastside (of the Tetons)
May 7, 2012 - 02:44pm PT
Awesome story, tfpu!

Trad climber
Fresno CA
May 7, 2012 - 03:18pm PT
Thanks, Lila, for posting one of the most wonderful things I've ever read on line. The only creation of your father's that I own, I still cherish and use -- my now 40+ year old Doltster.

It's also great to read about climbers who golf. Back when the Ahwahnee Hotel's pitch and putt course was still in existence, I wanted to carry a wedge and a few balls up the Royal Arches and see if I could hit a green from the Jungle, but climbing partners talked me out of it.


May 7, 2012 - 03:27pm PT
A wonderful story. Thanks for sharing.


Trad climber
May 7, 2012 - 06:00pm PT
Wonderful story. Thank you for sharing. As a dad who has two adopted children, I can appreciate your journey on some level, if even a small one. My wife and I hope to be able to allow our kids the freedom to seek out their history when the time is right. Its strange for me, sometimes when I think about it, to know that my kids have biological parents out there who may often wonder about them. The whole thing is too big to understand sometimes.

Thanks again.

Mountain climber
GOP Convention
May 7, 2012 - 06:34pm PT
Hi Lila,

Thank you for sharing your heart warming story. I'm in the club with micronut, I have a daughter adopted from China and will assist her in her search for roots when she expresses the need.


Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - May 7, 2012 - 08:09pm PT
Boodawg, you honor me with your words and wisdom.

I would be very proud to be a steward of the Dolt peg until it goes to live with Ken Yager at the YCA. To touch and hold something in my hands that he made...I'm barely keeping it together.

To be able to teach my daughter about the great outdoors, leaving the planet better than she found it, living out her dreams whatever they may be...will be so much more colorful with the stories about Dolt and Ann that I will be able to share, and now, moreso, because she will be able to hold something tangible in her hands to spark her curiosity.

I can't help but think that they're both smiling...broadly. My heart thanks you.
Roger Breedlove

Cleveland Heights, Ohio
May 7, 2012 - 09:14pm PT

I gave all of my 70s gear to Ken Yager so he could build authentic displays using 70s gear. I gave camping gear, clothes, EBs I had worn, as well as all of my ancient hardware, some of which was produced by your birth father. I saved one piece back, a Dolt pin, that was elongated to about 8 inches. I used it through my climbing days to fish nuts and clean dirt out of cracks. I think it was with me on every climb I did starting in 1971. It is a fine piece of hardware, and it is the only physical piece of that life 40 years ago that I have left: it is enough.

Thanks for joining us.

Here is a picture of my Dolt holster--Nylon--my Dolt cleaning pin (the one I kept), and an early version of an elongated hammer better suited for cleaning.

Social climber
May 7, 2012 - 09:27pm PT
Great story, Lila - you are the offspring of a legend. Big boots to fill, but your spirit covers that well.

Peace, Erik

Social climber
May 8, 2012 - 12:06am PT
What a wild story. Thanks for also cross-posting on Daryl Hatten's thread. I was only 11 in '71 and so not exactly climbing in Yos.

But knew Daryl well.

All the best to you Lila ! :-)

May 8, 2012 - 12:10am PT
Great story - thank you for sharing it with us. I like the photo of your mom, she looks nice. I wonder if anybody recognizes where it was taken.

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - May 8, 2012 - 11:34pm PT
I haven't laughed this much or this often in a really long time -- so thanks for that!

JEleazarian: Loved your story about combining sports. About 10 years ago, I hit a ball off of the Cliffs of Moher in Ireland (before anyone starts cursing me out, it was before I learned that golf balls contain lead) in what felt like gale force winds -- definitely memorable, not so much for the act itself, but for the moment in between when I lost my balance and regained it again.

Perswig: You reminded me that I've been running around on rocks since I could walk, just not the "big wall" types. ")

Roger B: So happy to hear that you donated your gear to Ken Yager & the YCA. It seems right to me that Bill's equipment have a home where he loved to be and seemed happiest.

And funny that you said that I look like my birth mom, because her sister took one look at another photo and said I look like my birth dad. Guess I'll just have to show up so we can settle it once and for all. lol.

Prod: I bow down to the 2 iron. My 3 iron only gets to come out to play for good behavior. I find, though, that if I try to concentrate physically, my brain gets in the way, so this is where humor comes in very handy.

Reilly: My grandpa was in the lighthouse service on the Hudson River in NY. I always admired his job, too. Say, what is it about Reillys and water?!

Hey, and thanks to everyone who shared their own adoption stories. Everyone deserves to love and be loved!

Question: Does anyone happen to know whether Bill was flexible? I inherited hypermobility somewhere along the line, and it doesn't appear to have come from my birth mom's side of the family. Just learned today that I inherited my strong hands from him...pretty darn cool.

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
May 9, 2012 - 12:48am PT
Lila.... WOW, Just saw this story ....Wow..wow... wow..and Welcome...Thanks for sharing your birth story....
Best wishes to you....

ps...Maysho has a a cool adoption story...
pss.. adoption stories have always fascinated me...
Berdette Robison

the present
May 9, 2012 - 11:59am PT
I have not been on the Supertopo in several months. I am not a climber, nor have never been involved in any aspect of that world. I went to my Senior Prom with Boodawg in 1963 and found him via this website. I spent a few months on the Supertopo website and read so many fascinating stories. Then life took over and my visits to Supertopo stopped.

I read your story and am so moved. What an amazing journey for you. It must be so incredible for you to find out so much about your birth parents from what were essentially strangers to you just a short while ago. How tragic that you never knew either one of them. But, I'm sure from the outpouring of stories, you must feel a true connection. I hope your adoptive parents have been supportive and are as overwhelmed as you are. You are truly an inspiration. What a gift to be able to give your daughter.

By the way, it's Boodawg's birthday May 15!
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