Discussion Topic |
|
This thread has been locked |
John Butler
Social climber
SLC, Utah
|
|
This thread is a lose lose from everyone's perspective, as best I can see.
Yep...
:-)
and speaking of losing... I've ordered a DaBrim
|
|
fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
|
|
I think it has more to do with Alex's age and experience, not his raw ability.
Sure he might hike 5.12d but does he have the years of experience to recognize the unknown objective hazards? I'd guess not.
Only with age do some of us finally grasp how little we really control.
If he were my son, I'd be wondering where I went wrong and trying to get him some perspective and help before he finally craters. Could anyone here seriously sleep at night knowing their child is free-soloing 5.12 slab moves thousands of feet off the ground?
But he's not my son so I guess I can just enjoy the show in the meantime...
|
|
Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
|
|
As parents we worry about our children . . . it is only natural. The important thing is to put our concerns in perspective and allow them to live their lives to the fullest, according to their own desires. Is this not the wonderful freedom that we as climbers hold sacred?
Life is complicated, fleeting and unpredictable . . . we are all just feeling our way along, hoping for the best possible outcome. The best we can do is live our own dream and accept what happens . . . no one knows what this existence is really about anyway, so judging the actions of our fellow humans is futile.
Thank you Alex for inspiring us with feats most of us cannot even imagine.
|
|
Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
|
|
Same could be said for somebody's Son joining the military in a high risk position.
So the question comes up and the answer is individual because it depends on how you see Life.
Is it OK to put your experience of (adventure/self challenge/exploration/intensity/???) ahead of safety and do things that appear unimaginably dangerous?
but maybe are/maybe aren't. I've been around a long time and can't think of a top level soloist that died doing a top level solo. Bachar was older with serious physical issues from his accident that died on a route trivial to him. Hershey died on a 5.9 he probably could have downclimbed and did laps on.
if we're going to fret about then dangerous things people do, it might make rational sense to go after what people have statistically got actually killed doing, like Himalayan Mountaineering.
Soloing is obviously life or death and it's plain to whomever is doing it. It's a choice and the danger is so obvious that people tend to only do what they have the true Ju Ju to master
Yes a rock can come down and take them out anytime, but apparently a rogue wave is just as likely and the universe has some subtle order that protects fools and masters (or both in the same guy) Yabo had to shoot himself.
Peace
Karl
|
|
Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
|
|
I can understand that it's not normal practice for cutting edge soloists to spray about their exploits
You folks keep saying things like this, evertytime this kind of topic comes up, so provide some examples. Because this is what you WISH were true, not what is actually true.
DanO - All over the Masters of Stone series soloing. On a "No Fear" brand poster, soloing.
Reardon - Sprayed like a waterhose. All over video, Acopa ads, his own website "freesoloist.com" with full rundowns of hard stuff he soloed (or claimed to, anyway).
Dean - All over Masters of Stone series, soloing.
Even the fairer sex... Steph, soloing in the Creek, Castelton, and the Diamond, on video.
I already covered Bachar and Croft above. Maybe you have a different idea of who qualifies as "cutting edge soloists".
|
|
fsck
climber
|
|
seriously though,
i hope he gives all these climbs the respect they deserve when climbing ropeless...
huh?
what does that even mean?
|
|
GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
|
|
Is soloing with da brim kinda like freebase?
|
|
Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
|
|
Let's not even get started on the issue of drugs.
|
|
Studly
Trad climber
WA
|
|
Thank you for sharing these incredible moments in climbing history Alex by putting pen to paper, or words on computers, whatever it is.
Really good writing, I was able to be there in my mind and share the experience. Awesome.
|
|
klk
Trad climber
cali
|
|
folks who are uneasy reading about honnold soloing two number grades below his ability on decent rock in good weather should simply never, ever, ever read anything at all about alpine climbing much less high-altitude stuff.
this is where the sport's at. a few hours in the death zone on a route he rehearsed with a bail-out option on the crux pitch. sounds like a pretty reasoned choice to me, given the level he's at.
and i, too, have been uneasy with the turn to documentation of each and every solo, sometimes in real-time. but it started decades ago in europe. and if he didn't do it, there'd be threads all over ST on how he was lying and hadn't really done it, etc.
he's a pro climber. makes his living doing this. a lot dicier way to make it as a pro than, say, being chris sharma and crushing sport climbs. or living on the comp circuit. but a lot less dicey than being an alpinist let alone a high-altitude hero.
|
|
michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
|
|
|
Topic Author's Reply - May 2, 2012 - 02:28pm PT
|
Let Alex do what he wants. He knows the dangers, he's kind of smart it seems.
Sounds to me like he's doing the things you upset people wish you could do, on a rope.
Give him good vibes. Don't be negative about it. Don't be the first to jerk off if something happens and be like "I TOLD YOU SO"
Remember, you're gonna die someday too.
|
|
zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
|
|
Mr. Honnold wears Da Clif, thank you and gets paid handomely for it.
|
|
Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
|
|
all of us pursuers of wee meaning
know from experience how blinding
ambitions can be.
all of us older geez also
know that a youthful brain
sometimes lies to your feet.
maturity can only be earned,
not imparted.
alex is livin fast and inspired.
its fvckin amazing to behold as a spectator.
i imagine his hyper-verve is quite taxing
upon his spiritual currency.
take care, man.
well-being is slippery,
sometimes it tends toward lunacy,
and then it becomes beautiful.
i would suggest, for this is how i tiptoe between
the intimate thresholds of living and dying,
that you offset your incredibly bold accomplishments
with sit still periods within a canyon or upon a
shiver in time.
reflect back and forth,
your heart and your mind between these two
emotional horizons.
build a vision
and then allow it to explode.
live long and thrive.
live short and thrive.
i hold nothing against you
for you have leaned bravely against the
mountain,
and i know that the mountain leans
back against you,
and those mountains sometimes need support.
|
|
michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
|
|
|
Topic Author's Reply - May 2, 2012 - 05:21pm PT
|
No. Jason Kruk I think is the dude who sh#t his pants.
Cedar Wright was the dude who almost got poo'd on. =[
|
|
Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
|
|
I think it was John Kruk, the guy with one nut.
|
|
zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
|
|
Honnold takes up wave riding, joins Da Hui. Source Supertopo Newsletter.
|
|
Roxy
Trad climber
CA Central Coast
|
|
that was a cool video, thx
|
|
S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
|
|
welcome
|
|
|
SuperTopo on the Web
|
Let us know!