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mouse from merced

Trad climber
merced, california
May 3, 2012 - 01:10pm PT
It was a poor, harmless, somewhat defenseless hooknose, who saw what he thought was a much bigger snake, and natural reflex took over; but the overreaction was what, ...regrettable?

Probably not. Hooknose snakes couldn't live thirty years...or could one, great big SOB be waiting, looking to sh#t on YOUR rope?

Never stand on my rope. Never sh#t on my rope. And don't think about falling on it.
-Andre the giant mountain guide
Patrick Sawyer

Originally California now Ireland
May 6, 2012 - 07:07pm PT
Ron wrote about Cleopatra...

She was not Egyptian. She was Macedonian.

Come on Ron, we all know that Liz was born in England.

Sport climber
May 10, 2012 - 04:00pm PT

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 10, 2012 - 05:58pm PT
What state was originally two separate colonies?

May 10, 2012 - 06:25pm PT
Massachusetts and Maine?

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
May 10, 2012 - 08:18pm PT
That is backwards. New Haven and CT colony were two separate colonies. CT Colony sent an anvoy to England to sort out some troublesome charter issues. New Haven Colony asked them to take care of their issues, too. CT did - and brought home a charter which incorporated New Haven Colony into its own charter. There was nearly some skirmishes between the two, but New Haven eventually caved. Thus the very separate communities of interest between the Hartford area and New Haven area go waaay back. The folklore surrounding this also involves a climbing site:

Charles II came to the throne in 1660. Puritan power was over. Two judges, or regicides, who had signed Charles I's death warrant escaped to New England in 1661. They were Colonel William Goffe, and his father-in-law Colonel Edward Whalley. While at first warmly greeted in the Bay Colony, the word of troops hot on their heels cooled the Bostonian's welcome. They traveled overland to New Haven where they were greeted by Reverend Davenport. They took up refuge on West Rock in an outcrop of massive boulders that now is call Judge's Cave. When the royal authorities arrived it was the Sabbath. They were Coerced to attend service, at which the Reverend Davenport read from the Bible, "'Hide the outcasts, and betray not him that wandereth"' he then read the supposed secret royal warrant aloud to those present . The officers could not find a trace of the regicides and departed empty-handed. For more than a month the judges remained in their natural hideaway. Daily a local farmer left food for them on a stump about half way from the center of town. They were prompted to leave their shelter after hearing what they thought might be a mountain lion or another fierce wild animal. Colonel Dixwell, the third regicide, had initially traveled to Europe after his escape from England and did not join his fellow judges until 1664. In 1664 another detachment of royal officers arrived in search of the regicides. Now all three hid at the West Rock site. Once again the search was fruitless and the troops left. The judges fled north spending time in Hadley and Hartford. Colonel Dixwell is the only one on record to have returned to New Haven. He assumed the name James Davids and established himself as a respected member of the community. He started a family and is the only one of the three judges we are sure of lain to rest on the New Haven Green.

"It is felt but not established in any written record that this snub of the Charles II government officials may have hastened the end of the proud and independent New Haven Colony. It was brought to Governor Leete's attention that the Connecticut colony was sending an emissary to England to establish friendly relations with the new government. Eaton had died in 1658. New Haven was without a statesman and without funds. Governor Leete sent a hurried message to the Connecticut Colony's Governor Winthrop to request that he plead New Haven's case. Whether or not the message ever reached Governor Winthrop is unknown. What is known is that the Connecticut Colony envoy sought and obtained a charter which included the independent Colony of New Haven. Governor Winthrop returned in 1663 and proposed a compromise and after a two year argument New Haven acquiesced. On January 5, 1665 an act of submission was passed by the General Court of the New Haven Colony. The New Haven Colony was now officially part of the Connecticut Colony."

The old New Haven Colony records are housed on Whitney Avenue near the Yale Campus. Pawing through those manuscripts from the 1600's was part of my well rounded ivy league education which includes many fun facts and uselss trivia.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
merced, california
May 10, 2012 - 08:52pm PT
Trivia-insignificant or inessential matters; trifles.

Trivium-the study of the three basic subjects of rhetoric, grammar, and logic before other subjects.

Fun-that which there can never be too much of (especially when studying the Trivium).

Outrageous-beyond the bounds of good taste.

This thread should go forever.


Social climber
So Cal
May 10, 2012 - 11:27pm PT

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Topic Author's Reply - May 10, 2012 - 11:49pm PT
What the hell is that thing?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
merced, california
May 10, 2012 - 11:52pm PT
The previous footage is a clear rip-off of Disney's seminal work, "Cascade Willie." Its intent is simply to amuse by lampooning gay marriage but this has clearly turned it into poonography. I frankly can't tell poon from lam in this simulacrum. The original CW is far superior.

All the best and thanks for the outrage, TGT!


I knew it was a fool's troll--
that whatchamahoosit is the seldom-seen Jinxus atlanticus!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
merced, california
May 12, 2012 - 06:09am PT
Dead you know? Yosemite is Deadly!

Warning: the following content may lead to dis-content.--Chuck Yolunj

In the entire decade of the 1950s only one (1) person died climbing, and some other guy suffered fatal hypothermia.

In the 1960s, ten (10) died.

The seventies saw twenty-nine dead (29), three of these in the time it takes to complete a long climb--June 16-18, 1975: one death on each day.

The eighties: Twenty-six goners (26).

The nineties: "Only" the lonely seventeen (17).

From 2000 to 2006: Fourteen (14).

1 + 10 + 29 + 26 + 17 + 14 = 97.

Think about the pro?


Just be aware.

In the dark. In the light.

aaaaaaaaaand on rappel.

Please. Don't become a number.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 7, 2012 - 09:35pm PT

To this day, nobody knows.
Survival of the ignorants.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 7, 2012 - 11:05pm PT
Outrageous, but it isn't trivial.

Twenty-five percent of prison inmates in the world are locked up in the US.

China is the 87th in the world in the proportion of its people who are imprisoned. China is a billion people bigger than the United States--more than four times the population--yet US prisons house in excess of 600,000 more people than China does.



Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Oct 7, 2012 - 11:20pm PT
China s less shy about using capital punishment.

Sport climber
Oct 8, 2012 - 01:29pm PT
Facts about the British empire

"The Decline and Fall of the British Empire presents a glittering panoply of decadence, folly, farce and devastation. Brendon's characters alone could fill a pantomime stage many times over. The empire seemed to abound in British oddballs, from the notorious Richard Burton, who "liked to boast that he had indulged in every vice and indulged in every crime", to the maverick General Orde Wingate, who "would ... hold interviews while lying naked on a bed and combing his body hair with a toothbrush". Postcolonial heroes fare little better. Jomo Kenyatta "sported plus-fours, drank literally inflammatory Nubian gin and so indulged his sexual appetites that he was suspended from church membership", while Tunku Abdul Rahman of Malaysia was "notorious for dancing, horse-racing, driving fast cars and getting into tight corners with loose women". Kwame Nkrumah "studied the occult, consulted oracles" and "compared himself to Christ"."

Sport climber
Oct 8, 2012 - 01:33pm PT
More facts about the British empire. This time - Churchill as oddball.

"In the nineteen-twenties and thirties, Churchill had been loudest among the reactionaries who were determined not to lose India, “the jewel in the crown,” and, as Prime Minister during the Second World War, he tried every tactic to thwart Indian independence. “I hate Indians,” he declared. “They are a beastly people with a beastly religion.” He had a special animus for Gandhi, describing him as a “rascal” and a “half-naked” “fakir.” (In a letter to Churchill, Gandhi took the latter as a compliment, claiming that he was striving for even greater renunciation.) According to his own Secretary of State for India, Leopold Amery, Churchill knew “as much of the Indian problem as George III did of the American colonies.”

In 1942, as the Japanese Army advanced on India, the Congress Party was willing to offer war support in return for immediate self-government. But Churchill was in no mood to negotiate. Frustrated by his stonewalling tactics, the Congress Party launched a vigorous “Quit India” campaign in August of 1942. The British suppressed it ruthlessly, imprisoning tens of thousands, including Gandhi and Nehru. Meanwhile, Churchill’s indispensable quartermaster Franklin D. Roosevelt was aware of the contradiction in claiming to fight for freedom and democracy while keeping India under foreign occupation. In letters and telegrams, he continually urged Churchill to move India toward self-government, only to receive replies that waffled and prevaricated. Muslims, Churchill once claimed, made up seventy-five per cent of the Indian Army (the actual figure was close to thirty-five), and none of them wanted to be ruled by the “Hindu priesthood.”

Von Tunzelmann judges that Churchill, hoping to forestall independence by opportunistically supporting Muslim separatism, instead became “instrumental in creating the world’s first modern Islamic state.” This is a bit unfair—not to Churchill but to Jinnah, the founder of Pakistan. Though always keen to incite Muslim disaffection in his last years, the Anglicized, whiskey-drinking Jinnah was far from being an Islamic theocrat; he wanted a secular Pakistan, in which Muslims, Hindus, and Christians were equal before the law. (In fact, political Islam found only intermittent support within Pakistan until the nineteen-eighties, when the country’s military dictator, working with the Saudis and the C.I.A., turned the North-West Frontier province into the base of a global jihad against the Soviet occupation of neighboring Afghanistan.)

What Leopold Amery denounced as Churchill’s “Hitler-like attitude” to India manifested itself most starkly during a famine, caused by a combination of war and mismanagement, that claimed between one and two million lives in Bengal in 1943. Urgently beseeched by Amery and the Indian viceroy to release food stocks for India, Churchill responded with a telegram asking why Gandhi hadn’t died yet."
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Oct 8, 2012 - 02:54pm PT
One of John Bachar's hero's was Fred Zeil.

Trad climber
Fumbling towards stone
Oct 9, 2012 - 03:29am PT
The "What the hell is that?" SNL sketch is probably my all time favorite. Saw it live back in the day (how else would one have seen it then????).

The Alou brother's post made my day.

Speaking of the eponymous plant of the world's poison oak capital: Poison Oak is not a poison, but an allergen. And humans appear to be the only creature allergic to it. It's deer food!

Trivia comes from the Latin for "three roads" or "paths." Probably where three roads meet. AKA a street corner. And street corners are where the vulgar masses hang out discussing fun, interesting, but often useless information. If you dig deep and trace the etymology, you'll learn that trivia = SuperTopo Forums. Really. You can look it up.

Way, way back in the day, when you had guests, you'd flip your dining table top over to show the nice, finished side. The other side was the rough everyday side on which your kids would carve with their pen knives, dad would pound his fists, and grandma would sling cast iron frying pans. However..... if your guests stayed for days on end, turning into weeks, thereby violating the basic laws of a good guest, the hosts would "turn the table" to let them know that their welcome was wearing out.

Now your know......... the REST of the story!

I have somewhat of a reputation for being a master of arcane knowledge. Most of it is on the backside of the ferris wheel in my mind. Will have to wait for it to make its way to the front. All in time.

Someone once told me I have a degree in MSU. Making Sh#t Up. I wish I were so talented, but unfortunately, I just seem to recall a lot of odd things.

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 9, 2012 - 03:44am PT
How else, indeed, Watson.

But WAY backin the day we'd just flup the lid on the eighty-eight and let the guests orate.

Top that,Kerouac.

Or the Cat in the Street, man.

If you think you can.

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 9, 2012 - 03:50am PT
Marlow, are you sure you got your facts straight, because I heard the Empire didn't fall, so much as it was tripped.
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