Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Apr 23, 2012 - 09:26pm PT
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Thanks Base104 !
I had stopped that as a public function in my FB preference file
but this takes care of that and lots more.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 23, 2012 - 09:32pm PT
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I don't get it.
Why would they want to track me?
I'm only a turd ......
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BooYah
Social climber
Ely, Nv
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Apr 23, 2012 - 09:37pm PT
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We are ALL turds. Some are more profitable than others...
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Apr 23, 2012 - 09:47pm PT
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No one cares about me. They want my money. I like being tracked by advertisers.
Like the 50% off on climbing gear ad that is flashing right now. They know I buy gear and I never pay retail.
I have worked for 30 years in advertising. Carefully targeted media advertising is awesome. Imagine sitting down to watch some TV and you only see a few ads but they are only for things that you care about with information that you wanted. Imagine your subscription to the New Yorker came in the mail and all the print ads were for climbing gear, your favorite car, new foods you are interested in and a discount coupon for Yosemite Lodge.
The next generation search engines will be your slaves. You will train them and they will only bring you information you want. They will be like AI's. Instead of the advertisers tracking you, you will track the advertisers. Every penny you spend, every penny of purchasing power you have will be power to bring you everything you ever wanted. Even if it's locally grown tomatoes from the guy down the street.
This is the beginning of a golden age.
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BooYah
Social climber
Ely, Nv
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Apr 23, 2012 - 09:50pm PT
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Skeptical, sir. Highly. You assume equilibrium.
That will be a long time coming, I feel.
Humans are far too excitable.
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The user formerly known as stzzo
climber
Sneaking up behind you
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Apr 23, 2012 - 10:03pm PT
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Unless you're using an anonymizer:
Any website you visit is "tracking" you, too.
Server logs record your IP and the pages you visit.
All the routing hardware between you and the website is also aware of your IP and the requests you make (including your ISP). Unlikely that the majority of them are keeping logs, but they could if they wanted to -- and sell it.
Even if you are using an anonymizer, the traffic between you and that service is open to monitoring.
Google analytics cookies are being stored by supertopo.com -- unless you've blocked analytics cookies. If you have blocked analytics cookies, you're making it harder for CMac to pay for the operation of this site.
Finally, Tin Foil TV says that the NSA has been monitoring all electronic comms in the US for 10+ years.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Apr 23, 2012 - 10:09pm PT
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Base: if you look closer at that link, it is CIA funded.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Apr 24, 2012 - 06:50am PT
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Paranoia will destroya.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
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Apr 24, 2012 - 02:38pm PT
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How the developers see it (from "The Best Oracle Resource on the Web"):
Savvy Web sites are watching every move of their customers, tracking their page viewing preferences and buying habits. This tracking is fed into sophisticated correlation engines that can accurately predict those products and services that the customer is likely to buy. Using this information, the Web page content is customized. We are seeing the dawn of applied artificial intelligence in eCommerce, and the major database vendors are creating products to help.
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When used properly, intelligent customer correlation analysis techniques are a win-win technology. Customers are happy because the eCommerce site highlights those products they want to buy. The eCommerce company is also happy because of millions in extra revenue from "impulse" sales. Marketing experts estimate that impulse sales account for billions of dollars in yearly consumption, and the eCommerce vendor can dramatically improve revenue by using custom HTML technology.
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apogee
climber
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Apr 24, 2012 - 03:07pm PT
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I installed base's suggested app last night...wow!
I did a bit of background checking on it's source (not tons, though)...it was easy to install, and it's mindblowing seeing how many companies track your actions at a given site.
Enjoyably, the google-driven banner ads have stopped (including ST's).
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new world order-
climber
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Apr 24, 2012 - 03:13pm PT
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Why are we supposed to be afraid of being tracked by these things?
It's all about money then?
Huh?
Or what is it?
It's all about collecting every little bit of information, on ev ree one.
Why? Because in the eyes of our loving government, we are all terrorists. Look up, NDAA.
Every site you visit, every key stroke struck, every phone call made is data mined and recorded.
Your Tweets Can Be Subpoenaed--- http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/04/your-tweets-can-be-subpoenaed/51482/
"The end goal is to get everybody chipped, to control the whole society, to have the bankers and the elite people control the world.” -Nick Rockefeller
So goes the new world order.
Wake up!
http://www.infowars.com
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Gene
climber
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Apr 24, 2012 - 03:34pm PT
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FB has 900,000,000 total users. About half a billion of them go to the site daily. The company is ‘valued’ at about $1,000 per user based on press reports of its upcoming IPO. It made about $1,000,000,000 in revenue in its latest quarter. And it’s FREE! Go figger.
The biggest issue for FB is how to increase the monetization of its user base.
So how does this free social network make its $$$. Buy selling you, your ‘friends,’ by comparing and selling your profile with your ‘friends’ profiles, your ‘likes,’ and all your photos that you have ‘tagged’ with your name and your friends’ names and selling that data. What is in your profile? What are the profiles of your ‘friends?’ Look at what a FB profile asks. Name. Location. Age. Religion. Gender. Relationship status. What you watch on TV. Music you listen to. And that’s just from the basic stuff you enter the day you gleefully sign on. What ever you post, FB will know, quantify and market. FB probably knows more about you than you do.
FB users’ need to blab in an arena they don’t control is astounding to me.
Anyone who uses FB has already surrendered any right to privacy. You are the product, not the user.
Written as I fold my latest and greatest tin foil hat.
g
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Hankster
Social climber
Zakynthos
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Apr 24, 2012 - 03:37pm PT
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What about you, at your age makes you think the scary computer people are out to get you specifically. When I google my name, a bunch of sh#t from Supertopo.com and Mountainproject.com and Basejumper.com comes up..... that's it. And not one ad on any of my favorite pages ever shows anything but crap I would never use. I'm fully with Werner on this one. I just don't think my way awesome and rad life is ever going to pop up on anyones radar for anything that will actually mean a damn thing. My turd life will roll along and then I will be dead someday just like everyone else.
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Riley Wyna
Trad climber
A crack near you
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Apr 24, 2012 - 04:13pm PT
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I must be the least paranoid person.
I have nothing to hide and could give a sh#t..
FB is just sharing pics and connecting with family friends and other climbers.
For me because I am all over and my friends and family are all over the world it is important.
And I never get tired of making idiots from my childhood realise how much their lives suck!..Bahahahaha
Or keeping in contact with many people that are close to my heart.
If you don't want articles you read linked than don't sign up for it on facebook. Or read articles off line.
The problem isn't the articles its that most people aren't that interesting.
I personally love it when I see what jaybro is reading because it is interesting.
Same goes for Base!
The advertising to worry about is all around us. The kind that tricks you into paying all your money for a house you can't afford, the kind that programs you to eat horrible food, or spend your life drunk in a bar, or buy a stupid car you can't afford. The kind that steals your life and tricks you into working a crap job and never doing anything. The kind that makes woman buy 100's of pairs of shoes and 1000's of other crap things. The kind that tricks you into giving all your money to some stupid mega-church or voting republican or watching or caring about a stupid TV show or thinking you live The Thug life.
I don't care if Google or facebook read my words and link a trip to the Himalaya to my page - which I never pay attention to anyway. I literally never see those adds. Something weird about my brain that doesn't pay attention to bullsh#t.
Which ironically Jaybro, Werner, Base and most of the other people on here have the same brain. Why we are all here, climbers, adventurerers, travelers, and for the most part interesting people.
I do however not like the tracker update thing where people post where they are. Or how Google tracks where u r when u are using mapquest and your phone GPS. I just turned mine off the other day because it had a big bubble and I could even see where the road was around my little blue triangle of a car...LOL..And I dont need people knowing where I am physically...that's stupid
Anyway...I'm going soloing...no partners.. much more dangerous than advertisers
Base - please go back on Facebook. I want you to "like" my recent climb of The Mace and my soon to be posted skydiving pics. Lol...that is what is important....LOL
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Dingus Milktoast
Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
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Apr 24, 2012 - 04:16pm PT
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And not one ad on any of my favorite pages ever shows anything but crap I would never use.
The ads seem quite relevant to me, hehe.
I see a lot of high heel and high fashion ads right here on the Taco. Most recently these
Weird huh, cuz THEY DON'T FIT!!!111111
I'm such a confused man.
DMT
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new world order-
climber
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Apr 24, 2012 - 04:20pm PT
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^^^^ Yeah, it's all funny. We're being tracked and recorded, and all you guys can do is laugh and make jokes.
What will you say when TSA highway checkpoints start going up?
NDAA...Look it up.
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new world order-
climber
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Apr 24, 2012 - 04:27pm PT
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:) It's allll good, Dingus.
Would you like your RFID implanted in your head, hand, or adze?
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