locker
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Nita...
so you DON'T think it was your neighbors fault that the cops came over and did what they did???...
Somehow it's the Cops fault that the neighbors flat out lied to them and got you in a heap of sh!t???...
Am I missing something here???...
signed...
the fuking as#@&%e...
;-)
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Locker, the neighbors did call in false information....but...The narcotics task force came rushing right over, and did not investigate anything prior to the raid...nada...All they had to do was look over a fence, or check a water bill, a PG&E bill...
When the story came out in the Sacramento bee & the Modesto Bee, no one supported the drug enforcement's actions...Not even the local right wing paper, or the city council.
Sighting our incident and the other incident i mentioned, the funding was pulled from the narcotics task force, which represented three counties.....
Timid was ask to testify in Mendocino county on blatant loss of civil rights, and misconduct from the war on drugs. Our story is in a book called~ Seize your house....
At that time- the forfeiture laws regarding the war on drugs were f*#ked up. Many innocent people lost their homes, because they had no funds to fight a court battle. We were lucky, our employers were wealthy, and we went to the news papers right away and made a big fuss.
Yes, the neighbors were f*#kers, but the drug enforcement team were f*#king f*#kers & gung-ho liars .
I could tell you so much more..but.....
edit, Hey Moosie..(-;
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John Moosie
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Beautiful California
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Come come come Nita.. Now you know good and well that you know nothing of police procedures. Our dear dear Mr. Fattrad knows all about procedures. Don't you trouble your pretty little head over this. The police are well trained and would never behave in such a manner. All swat teams are trained in L.A. and thus they would never misbehave in any such manner. You must simply be mistaken. This could not happen this way.
Moosie,
I fyou knew anything about this, you'd know that all small town PD's and sheriff's go to either LAPD or LASD for training at some point. Nita likely had tunnel vision with the guns, a well known circumstance and understandable.
Doh!
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locker
Social climber
CO
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Nita...
Thanks for taking the time to explain more...
Sorry things got so out of hand on you...
Did your neighbors get busted for the false info they fed the Cops???...
Signed...
Just me, the fuking as#@&%e...
LOL!!!...
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~kief~
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12/2010 LA POLICE SHOOT MAN HOLDING GARDEN HOSE 9 TIMES
35-year-old Douglas Zerby was shot dead by two cops who thought he had a gun. In fact it was just a garden hose nozzle.
Police were responding to a 911 call from someone who reported seeing a man with a handgun.
911 Operator: "Long Beach 911, what is the problem?"
Caller: "There's a guy in my backyard just sitting on the porch and he's got a gun in his hand."
911 Operator: "Do you actually see a gun?"
Caller: "Yes I do. It looks like a little tiny six shooter or something like that."
There are still bullet holes and blood stains on the porch where the shooting happened. Police say Zerby was sitting down toying with and aiming a garden hose nozzle, which police believed was a gun. The officers took cover about ten yards away. They say he aimed with both hands as if to open fire, and they shot him without warning.
"Unfortunately the actions of the subject precluded that from happening and it was a life or death situation very quickly," said Chief Jim McDonald.
Family members say the victim may have been drinking, but the tragedy could have been easily avoided.
"They didn't shoot him two times, they didn't shoot him three times, they shot him six times in the chest and then twice with a shotgun," says Zerby's outraged sister, Eden Marie Biele.
Zerby's emotional family members confronted the police chief at a press conference.
"I understand your frustration," said Chief McDonald.
"The officers should get some glasses if they can't see that's a water nozzle," shouted a family member.
"He's a father. He has an 8-year-old son. He at least deserved to be told, 'Put your hands where we can see them! Place the object down,' " Biele said tearfully.
"The family is distraught obviously," said McDonald.
The interruptions continued until the police chief left the podium.
"A human life was lost here. An innocent man, not a robber, not a thief, he was minding his own business sitting on his good friend's stoop," says Biele.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Locker, I'm not sure? ? We could of pushed it further , but I was suffering from the consequences of the raid. The owners of the Farm, and Timid and i, chose to get out of dodge..The farm got sold and we moved back to Beautiful Chico.
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nita
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chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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SAN DIEGO (AP) — A college student who was forgotten by federal drug agents and left in a holding cell for five days without food, water or access to a toilet says that he drank his own urine to survive.
Daniel Chong also said that he bit into his glasses to break them and tried to use a shard to scratch "Sorry Mom" into his arm, according to a story published Tuesday in U-T San Diego (http://bit.ly/JRlSr8 ).
The 24-year-old engineering student at University of California, San Diego, was swept up as one of nine suspects in an April 21 drug raid that netted 18,000 ecstasy pills, other drugs and weapons.
Chong said federal Drug Enforcement Administration agents told him he would be released. One agent even promised to drive him home from the DEA field office in Kearny Mesa, he said.
Instead, he was returned to a holding cell to await release. DEA spokeswoman Amy Roderick said he was accidentally left there.
Chong said he could hear the muffled voices of agents outside his five-by-10-foot windowless cell and the sound of the door of the next cell being opened and closed. He kicked and screamed as loud as he could, but apparently, his cries for help went unheard.
"I had to recycle my own urine," he said. "I had to do what I had to do to survive."
When he was found on April 25, he was taken to a hospital and treated for cramps, dehydration and a perforated lung — the result of ingesting the broken glass.
"When they opened the door, one of them said 'Here's the water you've been asking for,'" Chong said. "But I was pretty out of it at the time."
Chong also ingested a white powder DEA agents said was left in the cell accidentally and later identified as methamphetamine. He described having hallucinations, saying: "I was completely insane."
The agency hasn't commented on Chong's claim that he was without basic necessities for days. He also said the lights went off at one point and stayed off for several days.
Chong's attorney, Eugene Iredale, said he plans to file a claim against the federal government, and if it is denied, he will proceed with filing a federal lawsuit.
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Information from: U-T San Diego, http://www.utsandiego.com
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edit: fatty, I'm just pointing out how the war on drugs can take a wrong turn... I wish the DEA, would focus their time and money on Meth and other hardcore drugs....
and maybe we could spend more money on schools and education, rather than housing non violent people in prisons.
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fattrad
Mountain climber
GOP Convention
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kief,
Not enough info in the article, but it's likely that they ordered him to drop the gun(water nozzle).
nita,
^^^^^ An accident, but he was caught with drugs.
TheTool
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khanom
Trad climber
The Dessert
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Fatty, you cant possibly defend that kind of incompetence.
Hmmm, actually on second thought, that makes total sense.
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fattrad
Mountain climber
GOP Convention
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khanom,
The article does not mention time of day/night, obstructions, etc. Why did the guy take a "shooting position"??????? It could be a legit shooting however tragic that it is. Could even have been a suicide by cop.
TheTool
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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^^^^^ An accident, but he was caught with drugs.
Nope.. he was swept up in a raid where drugs were present. They were going to release him, told him so, but then forgot him.
At the DEA field office in Kearny Mesa, Chong said, he was handcuffed and left in a holding cell for about four hours. He was then moved to an interview room, where he was told he had been in the wrong place at the wrong time and would be released shortly. One agent even promised to drive him home.
Besides, it just didn't happen. Isn't that right Fattie? Probably all made up by the liberal media because anyone who knows police procedures knows it just couldn't happen.
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fattrad
Mountain climber
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Moosie,
It could easily happen.
TheTool
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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It could easily happen.
No sh#t sherlock. But that wasn't my point. My point was that you blamed it on drugs being present. Only that isn't what the story is about. The story is about being left in a cell for 5 days. Drugs being present at the arrest had nothing to do with that. The story isn't about why he was arrested. But you had to mention that drugs were present, like that excused everything. Meh..
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fattrad
Mountain climber
GOP Convention
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nita,
Having worked with narco teams, I can tell you that dealers/producers of harder drugs are given a higher priority level.
TheTool
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ATS
climber
Mountain Project
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Then again, if you're not involved in something illegal, you don't have anything to worry about
Classic. Tell that to the people on the TSA list....
Moreover, tell that to the LEOs that threaten and do arrest people for filming them while on duty....you know who I'm talking about.....
The most benighted statement ever...
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Social climber
Retired in Appalachia
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Does this event really surprise you? If it does, then you live in Star-Trek fantasy world.
ALL cops do this sort of thing. You can't trust any one of these bastards in blue.
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fattrad
Mountain climber
GOP Convention
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Sierra,
I never wore blue, tan/green or all tan.
You could trust me.
TheTool
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Yup it is sad, but true.
Many law abiding citizens are just as afraid of cops as they are of gangster thugs.
"If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about"
Tell that to the guy with the hose nozzle, and the countless other unarmed people that have been murdered or beaten.
My nephew was almost shot. One cop asked for his ID, when he reached for it, the other cop freaked. That is all it takes.
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