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WBraun

climber
Jul 30, 2013 - 12:32pm PT
No Americans have made pressure cooker bombs to blow up strictly innocent folks.

FBI made those.

The FBI agents who supposedly shot Tsarnaev at the boat has just been mysteriously killed.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/two-fbi-agents-involved-in-arrest-of-boston-bombing-suspect-dzhokhar-tsarnaevs-fall-out-of-helicopter-and-die/5336131

Most of the seal team 6 that went for the fake Bin laden raid are dead too.

Tillman is dead.

Anyone who talks is dead.

Stupid Americans are too stupid to know WTF is really going on.

Stupider than stupid along with the traitors against humanity they've elected to their govts.

Most of the world leaders and their minions are all traitors, assassins, murderers against the welfare of humanity of this planet .......

Anyone that vouches for these aszholes is a traitor too ....
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 30, 2013 - 12:34pm PT
well so your validating my vote NO INCUMBENTS theory then;-)




Werner,, "their buried in the hills out past Terralingua,(sp?), still got the shovel"
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Jul 30, 2013 - 01:38pm PT
Ron and Blahblah,

Boy, now everyone thinks I'm losing it (See the Republicans thread recently)

Maybe I am, but I didn't say that the Obama administration was perfect. Ft. Hood represents a clear mistake. So does Boston. But so do 9/11, the Cole, Nairobi, etc. My support of the Obama administration on this issue reflects the administration's willingness to resist the anti-antiterror factions of both Democrats and Republicans.

If you want to see someone doing a bad job, just elect someone like Jim McDermott or Rand Paul, and see what happens.

john
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 30, 2013 - 01:48pm PT
Yes John in some ways perhaps.. Then we get the "it could have been me speech" over the Zimmerman/Martin case. Where a setting president interjected federally into a public trial, NOT really supporting the legal system that was in place, but rather building sympathy one sided doing something NO president should do. He should have said the justice system is the best in the world and the Jury will decide or has decided, that is all. He did it to go after SYG laws EVERY WHERE and did so knowingly at the expense of racial tensions, which is DESPICABLE..

He damm well hasnt spoken about ANY of the other murders INCLUDING those retaliatory ones over that case. THAT was one hell of a speech compared to MLK and his dream speech.. One worth a fortune, the other not a friggin dime.
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Jul 30, 2013 - 02:01pm PT
This has to be one of the most schizophrenic threads on ST. I have a headache.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 30, 2013 - 02:03pm PT
Not at all Snowmass, the reason of this thread was actually govt interference to begin with..
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 30, 2013 - 04:09pm PT
How many accounts have you had, Mr Christ?

You know how many I have had because I have never made any attempt to be anonymous. Dumb ass.


I always appreciate your posts JE. Great to see intelligent people acknowledging good work.




Oh, and...

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Aug 6, 2013 - 02:59pm PT
Ron and Blahblah,

Boy, now everyone thinks I'm losing it (See the Republicans thread recently)

Maybe I am, but I didn't say that the Obama administration was perfect. Ft. Hood represents a clear mistake. So does Boston. But so do 9/11, the Cole, Nairobi, etc. My support of the Obama administration on this issue reflects the administration's willingness to resist the anti-antiterror factions of both Democrats and Republicans.

If you want to see someone doing a bad job, just elect someone like Jim McDermott or Rand Paul, and see what happens.

john

Man, I used to think you saw sh#t logically, John! You are totally wrong here.

Can you see that the current admin (and the last one) pussy-ffoted around the real problem? The "war on terror". What is the war against? Is it justified (I think so)?

The Rand Paul's of the world say, "F*#k Them!", let's come home and batten down the hatches. The neo-con's and Obamas say, "let's create Democracy".

I stand with Rand on this. Not his Dad.

We have the ability to give the ME a middle-finger regarding oil, and we can also strike precisely where there are threats. Bring the boyz home!

Lastly, if we are going to fight a f*#king land war, can we do it old-school? Call the enemy names, demean them, and allow our troops the ability to KILL THEM. It's not a police action. It's war, and these boys of ours want to come home in one piece.

If we commit to war, then let our boys "cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of war".

We owe them that.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Aug 6, 2013 - 03:04pm PT
If we commit to war, then let our boys "cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of war".

HELLYEAH, when WE commit let's get SOMEONE ELSE to fight the war on our behalf. Cuz, like, we're patriots!

DMT
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Aug 6, 2013 - 04:30pm PT
HELLYEAH, when WE commit let's get SOMEONE ELSE to fight the war on our behalf. Cuz, like, we're patriots!

DMT


Your lame discussion is growing tired. So tired that you fail to see my f*#king point!!!

Yeah, I never served, but did your genius pick up on the part where I said that GUYS WHO DID VOLUNTEER< SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ALL DISCRESSION TO KILL THE ENENMY??? Did you miss that?

Or are you just so self-involved in some kind of military guilt that I can't say our guys should be able to shoot bad people?

I have no right to say that? Is that you idiotic point?

You have a 'non-servednik' obsession that is weird.

Re-read my former post. ^^^^^ above. weirdo.....
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Aug 6, 2013 - 04:46pm PT
Your lame discussion is growing tired. So tired that you fail to see my f*#king point!!!

He sees right through your f*#king point.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Aug 6, 2013 - 04:50pm PT
"We have the ability to give the ME a middle-finger regarding oil, and we can also strike precisely where there are threats. Bring the boyz home!"

This has been the Obama administrations view as well Bluering. Out of Iraq, getting out of Afghanistan. Staying mostly out of Syria and Libya as well. The cost of even a minor skirmish is incredibly high (as we will soon see again in Iran).
jghedge

climber
Aug 6, 2013 - 05:03pm PT


"Re-read my former post. ^^^^^ above. weirdo....."


You are, at most, 7 years old.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Aug 6, 2013 - 05:45pm PT
"Re-read my former post. ^^^^^ above. weirdo....."


You are, at most, 7 years old.


Did you even read my anti-interventionist screed?

This has been the Obama administrations view as well Bluering. Out of Iraq, getting out of Afghanistan. Staying mostly out of Syria and Libya as well. The cost of even a minor skirmish is incredibly high (as we will soon see again in Iran).


Then why are we mobilizing mechanized divisions towards Syria via Jordan?

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Aug 7, 2013 - 08:50pm PT

Then why are we mobilizing mechanized divisions towards Syria via Jordan?

Beuller???? Anybody? Doesn't fit your narrative?

Meanwhile, Chechens have taken over a Syrian airbase and beheaded the soldiers there. Are these the guys we're planning on arming?

http://patdollard.com/2013/08/chechencaucusus-islamists-seize-syria-airbase-execute-soldiers/

This is a Debka link I posted.

Oh, and Al Qaeda is 'on the run';

http://patdollard.com/2013/08/massive-attack-by-al-qaeda-thwarted-in-yemen/
dirtbag

climber
Aug 8, 2013 - 03:45am PT
"Pat dollar$" lol.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Aug 8, 2013 - 04:20am PT
Yeah, I never served, but did your genius pick up on the part where I said that GUYS WHO DID VOLUNTEER< SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ALL DISCRESSION TO KILL THE ENENMY??? Did you miss that?

No I didn't miss it. I got it loud and clear. You want 'our boys' to go kill the boogermen of whom YOU are afraid. You want them to kill without mercy, on your behalf. You want them to do a job you wouldn't do yourself. I totally get it. You're like most pro-war Americans... all talk, no do. The only do you got is to get others to DO your fighting for you.

Welcome to the Empire, Roman.

DMT
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Aug 8, 2013 - 05:15am PT
bluering raged
Yeah, I never served, but did your genius pick up on the part where I said that GUYS WHO DID VOLUNTEER< SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ALL DISCRESSION TO KILL THE ENENMY??? Did you miss that?

Or are you just so self-involved in some kind of military guilt that I can't say our guys should be able to shoot bad people?


Ah, yes. The "well, if we were shooting at them then they were bad" theory to engagement. I think that worked out pretty well in Vietnam, no? Even with strict ROE our guys still manage to kill plenty of people who aren't "bad." Even with lots of training our police manage to do the same thing. Come out of your dream world. Also, those red lines under the words that appear when you bang on the keyboard with your fists are trying to tell you something.


*edit* Sweet! Patdollard.com links! I only like my news copy/pasted from actual news organizations and placed under the byline "The War Starts Here" so this site fits all my needs.
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Aug 8, 2013 - 06:49am PT
Wow, YourHighnessDJ is in full arrogance mode this morning.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Aug 8, 2013 - 08:53am PT
No I didn't miss it. I got it loud and clear. You want 'our boys' to go kill the boogermen of whom YOU are afraid. You want them to kill without mercy, on your behalf. You want them to do a job you wouldn't do yourself. I totally get it. You're like most pro-war Americans... all talk, no do. The only do you got is to get others to DO your fighting for you.

Yes, good point. And none of us should advocate for the guvment spending money on education unless we're a teacher, or spending on health care unless we're a doctor or nurse, etc.
The only things we should support the guvment doing are things that are exactly the same as our current or former jobs--that makes a lot of sense to me and I'm sure the rest of the ST geniuses!
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