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Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jul 16, 2013 - 11:28am PT
Thats my point Gary.

It has been a while.


Time to grow up.

Even here in whitebread racist Utah the last lynching of a black man was 80 years ago.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 16, 2013 - 11:31am PT
The last lynching in NV was a white guy. Do we get bonus points for that?
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jul 16, 2013 - 11:32am PT
Lots of whites amongst the very limited rioting as well. Seems like a good time for some to break a few windows, cut loose and run from cops.

A climber told me he went in to SF to participate in one a few years ago just for the thrill of it.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jul 16, 2013 - 11:35am PT
Thats my point Gary.

It has been a while.


Time to grow up.

Even here in whitebread racist Utah the last lynching of a black man was 80 years ago.

Wow, 80 years, impressive.

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jul 16, 2013 - 12:00pm PT
Gary,

maybe its just me, but those guys don't look politically motivated. Looks more like ethanol poisoning.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jul 16, 2013 - 12:05pm PT
Gary,

maybe its just me, but those guys don't look politically motivated. Looks more like ethanol poisoning.

So it's OK for white boys to rampage over a football game, but not for black kids to rampage over something that poses a direct threat to their lives?

One can be excused, but the other not?



BTW, I know the guy that started this one!
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Jul 16, 2013 - 12:45pm PT
maybe its just me, but those guys don't look politically motivated. Looks more like ethanol poisoning.

It doesn't matter if it was ethanol poisoning, it's still a riot... I live in a town that has had three riots caused by white college kids( 99% males) creating mayhem & destroying property..

Did you also forget about the Seattle riots?....and any peaceful protest that has splinter groups that destroy property.. ................short memory.

Kent state...
Berkeley riots..

edit: riots are messed-up, no matter who starts them..being drunk and rioting is doubly messed-up....imo.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jul 16, 2013 - 12:49pm PT
Gary,

Those guys flipping the car look to be way over-dressed for July.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Jul 16, 2013 - 01:08pm PT
This thread morphed into slander and hate rather quickly.
The divisions shown here reflect society as a whole.

Are climbers different in this way?
Would you rather point fingers then do the work it takes to affect real change? The choice is yours.

Don't communicate civilly to one another.
Don't show respect and common courtesy when addressing each other.
Don't work at finding solutions.
Continue to rant and complain. It's easy.

or

Work at breaking down the walls that keep us apart.
Address the inherent problems with segregation.
Allow others to speak, and listen to constructive criticism of what you are sure is true.
Be tolerant and allow yourself to grow as a kind, strong and enlightened individual.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 16, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
Pud wrote: Work at breaking down the walls that keep us apart.
Address the inherent problems with segregation.
Allow others to speak, and listen to constructive criticism of what you are sure is true.
Be tolerant and allow yourself to grow as a kind, strong and enlightened individual.


Thought we did this in the 50's/60's, when you have a backward ass state like Florida making laws like "Stand your Ground" it set us back a long way.
Gerg

Trad climber
Calgary
Jul 16, 2013 - 01:30pm PT
^^^^Word up Bob!
Rest of the developed world must look at this law and laugh, and say something like 'typical.'
Not that our justice system is anything to write home about-i.e. Karla Homolka- but this must have been designed by the alpha males in Florida who ruled the beaches in the 80s in Bugaboo glasses.

Isn't it, and I could be wrong, but Illegal for a black and white person to marry in Georgia?
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jul 16, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
Jesse asked
When you look at the stats they produce the cartoons out of (graphs), do they balance them for the actual fact that way more of certain kinds of crime are performed by certain groups?

You realize that when something is a % it is a proportion, right? Not a raw number?


Tready observed
The injuries I've seen reported don't look like they were life threatening at all.

You don't have to sustain life threatening injuries you just have to fear for your life which is what makes these broad kinds of self defense laws so dangerous. No small number of Americans "fear for their lives" just seeing a young hooded black man walking down the street, much less getting punched in the face by one. Zimmerman had already decided that Martin was "up to no good" before he even got out of his car, much less the moment he got into a physical confrontation with him. According to the SYG law, Martin didn't even have to punch Zimmerman for shooting him to be legal. All he had to do was turn around and start approaching Zimmerman in what could be BELIEVED to be an aggressive manner and *pop*. Dead kid. Free killer.


Toker Villain whined
Time to grow up.

Even here in whitebread racist Utah the last lynching of a black man was 80 years ago.

So you're saying that it's so old that someone could have watched the lynching and still be alive to tell the story about it? That doesn't seem that old.
Jemarr

Social climber
Chico
Jul 16, 2013 - 01:38pm PT
Trayvon was gay bashing when he attacked Zimmerman. News Alert.

http://www.vdare.com/posts/trayvon-as-gay-basher-when-he-described-zimmerman-as-creepy-ass-did-he-think-he-was-gay-and-is

Rachel tell Piers it is normal to be creeped out when being stalked
by gay child rapists (which she thought Zimmerman may be).

With that thought planted in his mind Trayvon attacked.

Media originally pumped up this story under the mindset that,
of course,
a black child would be terrified of roving white racists
like George Zimmerman?

I mean, aren't we always looking for an example of an evil white male
attacking unprovoked a 17-year-old black male for white racist reasons?


But, what if it wasn't about race? It always made far more sense
that if Trayvon was acting perfectly innocent
and feeling perfectly innocent
(i.e., not casing houses to break into and not looking to score drugs),
then the youth was most likely experiencing fear and loathing of a man he
suspected to be gay and looking to rape him?

CNN Piers Morgan got this unfortunate truth he did not want to hear last
night from Rachel Gentell

http://christwire.org/2013/07/rachel-jeantel-i-told-trayvon-zimmerman-might-be-a-rapist-run-run-run/
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 16, 2013 - 01:43pm PT
Gerg...Florida is a disgrace...the 2000 election, the voter fraud, the Stand Your Ground law and so on.

Worth a look...http://www.gibbsmagazine.com/blacks_in_prisons.htm
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jul 16, 2013 - 01:56pm PT
http://www.mysanantonio.com/default/article/Jury-acquits-escort-shooter-4581027.php


Apparently you can shoot escorts in Texas now too. Man, the golden age of White Maledom is really coming back around.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jul 16, 2013 - 02:02pm PT
and My Three White Sons is rising fast on the classic rerun circuit


I long for the days when women knew their place and blacks were a credit to their race
command error

Trad climber
Colorado
Jul 16, 2013 - 02:05pm PT
Does the president still want to say if he had a gay bashing son it would look like gay basher Trayvon?

Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 16, 2013 - 02:09pm PT
http://www.salon.com/2013/06/11/stand_your_ground_law_helps_white_defendants_a_lot_more_than_black_ones/
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jul 16, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
Isn't it, and I could be wrong, but Illegal for a black and white person to marry in Georgia?
You're wrong.
If you know so little about US law, perhaps you just keep your opinions to yourself, and try to learn something rather than propagate BS?
It is true that mixed race marriages were illegal in certain states for a long time, up until the civil rights movement of the 1950s-60s, but anyone who knows even the slightest bit about US law knows that these laws were found unconstitutional in the seminal case of Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967).
Google it and learn something, rather than writing stupid crap.
If you're just trolling, good job, you got me.

Bob D--same goes for you, you should really learn to STFU if you still thing SYG had much if anything to do with Zimmerman case--as has been widely reported in the media and noted on this site, it didn't. Just standard law of self defense, which is, as applied in Zimm's case, is essentially the same throughout the US.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 16, 2013 - 02:15pm PT
Nice link Jemarr...from a White Nationalist hate group. You are scum.
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