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TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 17, 2013 - 12:36pm PT
We wouldn't want to let facts get in the way now!

Florida stand your ground laws have helped minorities more than whites .


Black Floridians have made about a third of the state’s total “Stand Your Ground” claims in homicide cases, a rate nearly double the black percentage of Florida’s population. The majority of those claims have been successful, a success rate that exceeds that for Florida whites.


One hundred thirty three people in the state of Florida have used a “Stand Your Ground” defense. Of these claims, 73 were considered “justified” (55 percent), while 39 resulted in criminal convictions and 21 cases are still pending.

Forty four African Americans in the state of Florida have claimed a “Stand Your Ground” defense. Of these claims, 24 were considered “justified” (55 percent), while 11 resulted in convictions and nine cases are still pending.

Of the 76 white people who have used the defense, 40 were considered “justified” (less than 53 percent), while 25 were convicted and 11 cases are still pending.



http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/16/blacks-benefit-from-florida-stand-your-ground-law-at-disproportionate-rate/
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 17, 2013 - 12:38pm PT
Oh, yeah, the daily caller... the unfair and unbalanced version of Fux news... complete with NO details of the methods used for analysis or reference to the actual data used in the analysis... brilliant!

Founded by libertarian conservative political pundit Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney...
dirtbag

climber
Jul 17, 2013 - 12:42pm PT
^^^^^^ lol ^^^^^^
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 17, 2013 - 12:49pm PT
That how TGT rolls...racist to core.

Like GZ these little wankers couldn't defend themsleves against a young black kid with a bag of candy.

Had to pull a gun...unbelievable. Both could have walk away from this encounter. Sadly the chicken ass with the gun who was getting his ass handed to him was the only one to walk away.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 17, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
Only a fuking coward would go out of their way to instigate a confrontation based ONLY on appearances and then pull a gun in "self-defense." And only a bigoted idiot would defend such actions and shrug off the death of an innocent 17 year old as the price we have to pay to be safe.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 17, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
Dr wrote: Only a fuking coward would go out of their way to instigate a confrontation and then pull a gun in "self-defense."


Which is why these wankers on this thread are defending him...like looking in mirror.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
Is breaking someone's nose a reasonable response to being followed?
Jemarr

Social climber
Chico
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:02pm PT
Uh oh the Bob da having erectile dysfunction issues? Those pills giveth and taketh away.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:02pm PT
Chaz wrote: Is breaking someone's nose a reasonable response to being followed?


Is pulling a gun and killing a kid that you just stalked a reasonable response for getting your ass handed too you in an encounter that you provoke?

Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:05pm PT
Jemarr=KKK

What a little fake/coward.
Jemarr

Social climber
Chico
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
Children crying because they did not get the verdict they wanted.


Bob D'a = confirmed a KKK



Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:08pm PT
Racist cowards rejoicing because they got the verdict that they wanted.

GZ will get his...it just a matter of time.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:09pm PT
Bob D'a writes:

"Is pulling a gun and killing a kid that you just stalked a reasonable response for getting your ass handed too you in an encounter that you provoke?"



I don't know, Bob.

I saw someone getting his head pounded on concrete - Trayvon style - once. It'll make you sick. I took extreme violent action to stop it, and it wasn't even my head being bashed.

I saw a guy get killed in a fist-fight once. It was said he died when his head hit the ground after being knocked cold on his feet. His head only hit concrete once.

I'll let the guy at the receiving end of a violent felony assault make the call as to how he defends himself.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:09pm PT
Is breaking someone's nose a reasonable response to being followed?

Absolutely. If someone followed me at night for a few blocks and then got out of their car and ran to within punching distance without identifying themselves, you bet your ass I would clock them.

You know that bullshit "self-defense" you idiots use to defend GZ's execution of Trayvon? The one that goes something like...

"a person may justifiably use force in self-defense when there is reasonable belief of an unlawful threat, without an obligation to retreat first."

Why do you all pretend that only applies to people with guns?

Trayvon was FAR more justified in defending himself with his fists than GZ ever was. Trayvon never pursued or approached GZ.


GZ will get his...it just a matter of time.
Chaz

Yep.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:14pm PT
Chaz...GZ wasn't getting his head bashed on concrete...he got an old fashion ass kicking when he stalked the wrong kid with a bag of candy trying to be a cop-wanna-be.

Funny how you guys feel that it was ok for GZ to defend himself but not the black kid. Really disgusting thought process you have going.

Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:14pm PT
Martin had no way of avoiding Zimmermann short of violence? He couldn't out-run the fat slob?
Jemarr

Social climber
Chico
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:15pm PT
You should be ashamed supporting a gay basher like Trayvon.
What kind of people are you?


Jeantel: Trayvon Not Racist, Just Homophobic
http://www.vdare.com/posts/jeantel-trayvon-not-racist-just-homophobic


Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
Chaz wrote: Martin had no way of avoiding Zimmermann short of violence? He couldn't out-run the fat slob?


Goes both ways...way did GZ even confront the kid...race profiling!!!


You just want to believe it was the black kid fault...it is in your DNA.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:20pm PT
Martin had no way of avoiding Zimmermann short of violence? He couldn't out-run the fat slob?

"a person may justifiably use force in self-defense when there is reasonable belief of an unlawful threat, without an obligation to retreat first."

A far more appropriate question is: GZ couldn't have asked Trayvon questions from a distance? He had to rush him and get within striking distance, acting under the assumption that he was "up to no good or on drugs or something."

The thing all you mother fukers seem to forget is the simple FACT that his was a 17 year old kid was WALKING HOME, who was followed and confronted by a wannabe cop FOR NO LEGITIMATE REASON.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:20pm PT
The type of person who starts a violent fight when other options are available is the exact type of person who should be profiled, regardless of race.
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