Disturbing events you've been witness to?


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Big Wall climber
Brooklyn Park, MD
Jul 8, 2013 - 07:24am PT
In Autumn of 2001 I was taking a solo weekend backpacking trip on the Appalachian Trail in Maryland and I found a dead body. It wasn't a grim scene but the shock of it caused me to vomit against a tree. Later, after I helped the SAR crew carry out the body I found out he had died earlier that morning on the trail because I talked to a woman who had chatted with him at the trail-head before he set off.

Whenever I tell friends this story the number one question they ask is always: "Did you poke him with a stick?"

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jul 8, 2013 - 10:31am PT
Great description Jaybro...Eddy Haskell...I know a chump just like that...Fast talking , charming , and willing to sacrifice anyone at any cost to maintain the Haskellesque charade...Good luck man...

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 13, 2013 - 01:02pm PT
I'm just collateral damage Kali, the main stalkee of his obsession is someone else close to me. Sociopath for sure, I've also heard the term malignant narcissicist used in his description, and as applies to his M.O.

This is the same guy who once offered me money to climb a new route with the stalkee, so that he could later hold it against her which he has, relentlessly, for two years!!. I didn't take his money and would and do climb with her happily, all the time!

In a work of spite he left this route, the hardest offwidth in indian creek, out, of the new guidebook he was a consultant on.

Anyone ever deal with someone like this?

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jul 13, 2013 - 01:42pm PT
Jaybro...Take the guy climbing some day...Have him lead something dicey and remote then give him extra tension at the crux...Karma helps those who help themselves...RJ
goatboy smellz

Jul 13, 2013 - 05:17pm PT
Wow Jay those Montana boys are such drama queens.
Too bad they define their self worth by what they climb and not how they act in the real world.


The Granite State.
Jul 13, 2013 - 05:44pm PT
Jaybro, I'm a pacifist, with exceptions.

I'd confront the guy. Start off nice and see how his body language changes.

Public shaming can work too.

Boulder climber
the woods
Jul 13, 2013 - 05:47pm PT
my father, deep in Parkinson's, trying to walk today.

Jul 13, 2013 - 08:07pm PT
Matt Sarad,

So sorry for that fall. Must of been something out of this world. Hopefully you are fully recovering.


I have seen that. Hurts, hurts so bad it's hard to breath seeing someone you love suffering. I watched both my parents die and it wasn't pretty, but that's life. Hard, so breathlessly beautiful and somehow ugly too. My heart goes out to you.


No idea man. I have had two evil charmers before in my life. Actually dated two guys that can make people think greatly of them but... Yeah, they are not who they appear to be. Once I got out of those relationships, I RAN... It still a twisted mess back there but at least it isn't my mess. Now I also dated a few Assholes too and that's a whole other subject. I actually have a bit of respect for the as#@&%es of this world because... They are who they are. They didn't change for me or anyone. If someone like myself stuck to them for a bit, that's more of my issue than theirs.

Trad climber
SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Jul 13, 2013 - 08:46pm PT
Lockers new girlfriend (see Blitzos thread). I think he has bit off more than he can chew. lol

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
Yeah Ana the ones who are whom they are , even if its not that great, deserve more respect than the slimy skin walkers that inspired this thread.

Get this, a woman beater who has broken down the bathroom door to drag his stalkee by the hair so he can then lock her in a room and scream at her until he blacks out, has just complained that people don't like him because they know that story.that he was 'snitched' on. He does not consider the fact that they don't like him because he Is someone who expresses himself through violence and won't seek professional help to deal with it!

Maybe it has something to do with his addiction? - literal fact, not a joke! He's lost at least one weekend to that combo recently. Of course then his one word text "drunk" speaks volumes as well. If he would only learn to keep his mouth shout, esp to certain people his problems could stay his own.

Does ketamine make one inclined toward exhibitionism? He just sent her another photo of his schlong. At least this one isn't a video!

Trad climber
Mancos, CO
Feb 13, 2014 - 08:26pm PT
The BULGEMELON thread on Supertopo

Trad climber
Feb 13, 2014 - 09:26pm PT
I was driving on the interstate and a van full of two moms and 7 kids did multiple (like 10+) rollovers in front of me. All kids and one mom were ejected through the windows. They were everywhere. I was first on the scene.

Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
Feb 13, 2014 - 10:21pm PT
Chugach, that's awful. Sorry you had to see that.

Feb 13, 2014 - 10:54pm PT
What horrible stories some of you folks have. I've somehow (fortunately) generally avoided being concerned and/or disturbed with the crap that the rest of you get hit by. Sorry for you....damned sad. Not satire, some of the stories on this thread are real Freaking bad and I feel for you.

Sh#t I've lived such a great life, sometimes it takes others story's to remind one of it..... Thanks mom.

Crazy Bat

Sport climber
Birmingham, AL & Seweanee, TN
Feb 14, 2014 - 03:51am PT
Jaybro, I married Mr. Perfect. All was well at first, charming fellow to all. After a while it slowly went to hell and became physically abusive. Recognizing I had a problem and admiting it was the hardest part of getting away and getting help. You friend has begun the long road to her own recovery by admiting it to you. She is lucky to have you for support.

I was lucky and got out before I was really hurt. I was also lucky that he was only narcisistic, not malignant. Tell her to keep a diary and any other documentaion she can of every encounter with him. It will help if he ever does something that deserves jail time.

I have also found that just having a conversation with the local constabulary can help. They give good advice and like to catch those that hurt others. It gives them a good excuse to hurt someone themselves. (joke). They do like to have a heads up. It doesn't require paperwork on their part.

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Feb 14, 2014 - 12:02pm PT
Don't know if I've told this one before.

I was about 14, returning from a hunting trip with my dad, brother, brother in law and dad's friend. We're driving on the interstate in central Georgia, in the middle of nowhere, when I see a body laying there about 30' off the road at the edge of the woods. Holy cow, must have been hit by a car!

I tell my dad, and my brother catches a glimpse of him too, so we pull over and backup up down the shoulder.

Go over and, no blood or obvious trauma, but the guy isn't moving, doesn't appear to be breathing, has no apparent belongings, and is ill dressed for the weather. We yell at him, and clap our hands near his face. Now thinking the guy is dead, bro-in-law goes and flags down a passing car (this is in the days before people really carried cell phones) to go call the cops.

He doesn't look like he's been there long and we're still not positive he's a corpse. Nobody is willing to try to find a pulse, in case he is alive and freaks out, stabs or punches or something. So my brother rares back and kicks the guy in the ass as hard as he can.


Bro says rigor mortis isn't there, so he goes and fetches a shotgun from the car. Blasts off two rounds into the woods with the barrell a couple feet from the guys head.


Sh#t, this guy is dead. Cops show up about 10minutes later.
"Oh, that's Percy. He's probably just drunk"
"No, we're pretty sure he's dead" and we tell them about our attempts to rouse him.
Sherriff goes over shakes him, yelling at him, gets a faint pulse, slaps him across the face a few times, keeps yelling and shaking until the guy twitches a little, then starts to moan.

WHOA! He's alive. Another five minutes of shaking yelling etc and he's sitting up, drunker'n a bicycle. Cops load him up to take him to his folks place, and we resume our trip home, relieved and laughing. But those first 30minutes were traumatizing for me, having initially spotted him and only having seen a corpse once, at a funeral.

Social climber
Feb 14, 2014 - 12:47pm PT
I ...that vladimir putin butt plug was pretty damm disTurBiNg to me. Funny as hell, but disturbing. Don't know if I can open up another Locker geared thread ever again. I need to stick to climbing threads.

Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
Feb 14, 2014 - 02:26pm PT
Ive had the misfortune to see some of this stuff too.

The first were at Smith Rocks. I had just completed the WMA WFR course. My buddy and I walked down into the park on a beautiful day, nice and cool, not too crowded for the time of year. We waltz down to the dihedral area, and notice a big crowd at the base of a very popular easy route (5 gallon buckets). We wander up, cause there's cute chicks, and everybody is all solemn. It was really weird, this big group, people crying and stuff. I ask one of them what's wrong, and she points at a rope tarp with feet sticking out from under it. You can see theres a male laying on his back under it. I asked her "Is he dead? When did this happen?" She starts nodding and says "It just happened, he just fell!" I ask her if I can look and she says "Please do, please, I think he's dead!".
I flip the tarp back, and dude is laying there blinking, bloody hands, bloody knees, slight bleeding and fluid from one ear. Holy shit! get Tommy to help me hold him stable and start asking all the questions: what day is it? Who are you? Who is the president? I start doing the full body check and notice his belay device attached to the carabiner on his harness, as he's explaining "I just leaned back and started falling, that's all I remember". I dispatch somebody to run up to the ranger station, get someone else on the phone. Talking to the guy. Finally this old guy with a Santa Claus beard and a helmet on comes up the trail, and identifies himself as a Doctor. I think, cool, I can get out of here! Ive got blood on my gloves, there's nothing I can do besides keep the guy stable and monitored until somebody shows up with a stokes litter or whatever.
So I turn the scene over to the Doctor, who doesn't so much as look down at the patient. Makes no move to stabilize him or monitor breathing or anything. So I ask the Doc, "Uh, so are you an ER Docor, or a surgeon, or what?" He gives a big grin... "no, I'm an Optometrist!" we ended up helping the VFD guys wheel him all the way up to the parking lot.

Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
Feb 14, 2014 - 02:29pm PT
A couple weeks later we were over by the Phoenix Buttress, and this guy blows the first clip and slides down the cliff with his legs locked and gets a compound tib/fib fracture. Brutal, I'm telling you. The blood stank, and anything you did hurt the guy, sending him almost into a frenzy. We just bundled him the best we could, kept talking him through it, got him to hold my hand and squeeze it. Carried him to a pickup that had made it down.

Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
Feb 14, 2014 - 02:32pm PT
Then we found a dead guy at the base of a popular crag in Porland called Rocky Butte. It wasn't without precedent. All sorts of shady stuff went down at "the Butt". Guy was wearing a t-shirt, socks, staring up dead at the sky.

A few years later, I was afirst responder at a vehicle accident on highway 224, where a little tyke hit the seat in front of him so hard he got a scalp tear. It bled like a stuck pig, too. I got my shirt wrapped around him and kept him spine stable until the paramedics showed up. The whole time his "Mom" was running around wih an unlit cigarette telling anyone who'd listen about why the accident wasn't her fault.
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