Rokjox
Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
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Feb 14, 2012 - 02:49am PT
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When the messaging function returned actual addresses to the user, I also saw that as a security flaw. Indeed, a 'bot once came through ST and apparently stole every address for purposes of spam. It was OBVIOUSLY insecure.
It is no longer wired that way.
And I would MUCH rather receive an email from a "dubious" person than a PHONE CALL. REALLY! Think about it. Use ME as an example.
I do NOT ordinarily publish my phone number, it is NOT in any current ordinary phone book most certainly, even IF you know my full name and location. Moreover, I AM posting under a pseudonym, and there IS a reason for that, even if it is not an impenetrable identity. I may not be trying to be invisible, but I ain't in witness protection either. Others may have far larger reasons than I do, but you will never know that either, because they will NOT tell you, you ain't got a need-to-know. THATS security.
If you NOW remove the messaging feature, you remove a most valuable method of association and communication that complements the ST's public pages.
There ARE good reasons for people to be able to email each other privately, and its a safety mechanism. It allows people to coordinate, to debate and discuss issues personally and presumably privately, before or instead of making that issue blatantly public.
Destroying that is not advancing the community OR security.
Even when the emails are used for ugly purposes (as it has, rarely, been used), it provides the recipient a warning and a link to the threat without requiring a response or even an acknowledgement of receipt. If the sender does not receive a reply, he never even actually knows if the email addy is a valid or a broken one with the present system. It helps that it has been mentioned occasionally that it seems broken for some people (even if it is not). And it can now be specifically turned OFF on an individual basis. Security is maintained. Hell, security is ENHANCED.
The email feature provides a service, a convenience, a warning, and perhaps even evidence, if needed.
It should be left alone, it is now secure, it IS useful and it does promote good will overall. It is also a safety feature, a popoff valve on the small boiler that ST may occasionally become.
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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Feb 14, 2012 - 03:40am PT
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Ionlyski,
I always thought Chris Farley was funny for about 15 seconds, and then he became tiresome. For his humor to remain fresh he needed to always push the envelope, to be more outrageous--but it was only funny for 15 seconds. He had to die young; he had nowhere else to go: SuperTopo hadn’t been created yet.
But I give the guy credit for making it his own.
I posted all my Farley crap because it clogged up the thread with more or less useless pictures of a guy who was famous for acting stupid. It was a stand-in über-poster. I also wanted to express my freedom of expression: I can post whatever I want as long as Chris doesn't ban me.
Sort of a,
 Missing photo ID#237426
response to the self-serving justifications of “The forum is just fine for everyone as it is.”
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Feb 14, 2012 - 07:34am PT
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I was also at the time trying to use my own face and identity here, as nothing but another climber, but that was before I decided to go on a war footing. Later, I began taking on the Che Guevara visage to symbolize my new commitment to fighting back HARD. Total war if necessary.
Get outside much?
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Rokjox
Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
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Feb 14, 2012 - 09:17am PT
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Up to several times a week with from 1 to 8 (or rarely even more) guys at a time, according... remember, I'm currently free/retired/unemployed. I am also within 15 minutes to an hour from a couple dozen different venues according to what I want to do.
How about you?
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coloradohigh
Trad climber
rocky mountain trench
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Feb 14, 2012 - 09:39am PT
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cmack keep'n it classy, and trying to keep the trash in the tabloids.
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bmacd
Boulder climber
100% Canadian
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Feb 21, 2012 - 02:12pm PT
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Another simple sugesstion for Chris McNamara:
Display 60 - 90 threads per page in the discussion forum section instead of just 30.
Thats an easy one programmatically speaking
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Pate
Trad climber
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Feb 26, 2012 - 05:10pm PT
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COMPLAINT
no one has told rokjox to go f*#k himself recently
buh bye
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Jim Hefner
climber
La Verne, CA
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Feb 27, 2012 - 06:50am PT
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My vote is to break this forum up into categories. I realize the changeover and archiving would be horrendous but there are way too many divergent topics on one page. For me, it takes too much time to plough through so I stay away. Some organization would be greatly appreciated!
Also, some sections should be moderated and some not.
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